UConn President: Fall sports likely to be cancelled

[freescooter]

I suspect there is at least a 50% chance that the season is modified in some way. If students are not on campus basketball players won’t be either. If crowds are still limited to 50 or even a few hundred does it really make sense to play games? I imagine that the games won’t start until 2nd semester and the Tounament is more likely May madness than March. But again is a completely empty arena really the purpose of college basketball? Or at that point has it moved so far from its original purpose that some schools jus say the heck with it all. We’ll start again when some level of normality returns. Student will find other things to do and so will non student fans. This isn’t the NBA where players and owners only care about making money. There is at least a minimum of something more.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Never underestimate the ingenuity of the American People or people from all countries. . This is wartime and innovation always takes a huge leap when your at war. What we do over the next couple of months will revolutionize how the world deals with virus.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Arizona's president said that football this fall is increasingly unlikely
Arizona president: 'Just don't see' football in fall

“Just don’t see” is everyone’s go to phrase these days.

I’ve all but resigned to no football and basketball. As weather like today gets to be more the norm and not the outlier it is going to be very very difficult to keep people apart.

 

[superjohn]

From Brown's president...

College Campuses Must Reopen in the Fall. Here’s How We Do It.

Opinion | College Campuses Must Reopen in the Fall. Here’s How We Do It. (Published 2020)

It won’t be easy, but there’s a path to get students back on track. Higher education will crumble without it.

www.nytimes.com

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

From Brown's president...

College Campuses Must Reopen in the Fall. Here’s How We Do It.

Opinion | College Campuses Must Reopen in the Fall. Here’s How We Do It. (Published 2020)

It won’t be easy, but there’s a path to get students back on track. Higher education will crumble without it.

www.nytimes.com

Reopening public schools and colleges in the fall is one of the most difficult decisions that will have to be made - the educational toll on students across the board is enormous. Virtual learning is a Band-Aid solution and not sustainable.

 

[8893]

From Brown's president...

College Campuses Must Reopen in the Fall. Here’s How We Do It.

Opinion | College Campuses Must Reopen in the Fall. Here’s How We Do It. (Published 2020)

It won’t be easy, but there’s a path to get students back on track. Higher education will crumble without it.

www.nytimes.com

Unfortunately I think this is still not a great sell in terms of delivering what kids and parents value most about the college experience. If this is the best case scenario, and it's going to cost the school a lot more to deliver it, I think it's still going to kill a lot of schools because I think enrollment is going to drop precipitously. If they have to offer substantial discounts to keep enrollment up, that's not going to be sustainable for a lot of schools.

Traditional aspects of collegiate life — athletic competitions, concerts and yes, parties — may occur, but in much different fashions. Imagine athletics events taking place in empty stadiums, recital halls with patrons spaced rows apart and virtual social activities replacing parties.

But students will still benefit from all that makes in-person education so valuable: the fierce intellectual debates that just aren’t the same on Zoom, the research opportunities in university laboratories and libraries and the personal interactions among students with different perspectives and life experiences.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

What about our next generation of doctors, nurses, and teachers who can’t get the clinical experiences they need through distance learning? The answer can’t be “I just don’t see it.” Come up with an image of it and figure it out!!!’nn

 

[krinklecut]

What about our next generation of doctors, nurses, and teachers who can’t get the clinical experiences they need through distance learning? The answer can’t be “I just don’t see it.” Come up with an image of it and figure it out!!!’nn

Doctors and nurses will still do learning from the field.

Teachers will as well. Right now, the field is virtual.

I'm really sorry that this is challenging, and that it's easy to say "figure it out," but unless we adjust to accept the new normal, we're going to continue to be behind.

 

[superjohn]

Unfortunately I think this is still not a great sell in terms of delivering what kids and parents value most about the college experience. If this is the best case scenario, and it's going to cost the school a lot more to deliver it, I think it's still going to kill a lot of schools because I think enrollment is going to drop precipitously. If they have to offer substantial discounts to keep enrollment up, that's not going to be sustainable for a lot of schools.

What's the alternative though? Not getting a degree? Postponing getting a degree for a year or two and postponing making money for another year or two?

Our young people already have it bad enough before this, it seems we're just burdening their futures so much more. And having the different generations under the same roof for another year doesn't seem like a good health strategy.

 

[superjohn]

Doctors and nurses will still do learning from the field.

Teachers will as well. Right now, the field is virtual.

I'm really sorry that this is challenging, and that it's easy to say "figure it out," but unless we adjust to accept the new normal, we're going to continue to be behind.

This is leaving inner city kids (mostly black and brown) so much further behind than they already were.

 

[Peacefrog]

Reopening public schools and colleges in the fall is one of the most difficult decisions that will have to be made - the educational toll on students across the board is enormous. Virtual learning is a Band-Aid solution and not sustainable.

I for one am not thrilled at the prospect of paying the already ridiculous cost of my student's college for what amounts to correspondence courses. There is a large increase in discussions of taking a gap year both for existing students and incoming freshmen. Missing out on labs isn't awesome when studying engineering.

At least two problems with this: there is a potential logjam after the gap year and what constructive things can they do during this time? International travel, internships and volunteer work all seem to be off the table.

 

[superjohn]

I for one am not thrilled at the prospect of paying the already ridiculous cost of my student's college for what amounts to correspondence courses. There is a large increase in discussions of taking a gap year both for existing students and incoming freshmen. Missing out on labs isn't awesome when studying engineering.

At least two problems with this: there is a potential logjam after the gap year and what constructive things can they do during this time? International travel, internships and volunteer work all seem to be off the table.

I can't imagine any parent paying University tuition for correspondence courses and as you say it creates an enormous logjam for the future.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Doctors and nurses will still do learning from the field.

Teachers will as well. Right now, the field is virtual.

I'm really sorry that this is challenging, and that it's easy to say "figure it out," but unless we adjust to accept the new normal, we're going to continue to be behind.

So a year from now you want teachers who have never been in front of a group of kids to try and teach a class of kids who haven’t had socialization in over a year. Kids are already shutting down with pointless online learning.
I’m in a principal prep program and I got about half of one year of internship in a 2 year program. How do I justify hiring me after a year of zoom classes and no boots on the ground experience?
There are absolutely ways to open schools with reasonable measures this fall. It involves distancing, testing, and hygiene. Online learning will probably be a part of it but it can’t be everything.

I understand the health and safety if it but there are ways to be responsible. I wonder how hard people who “can’t see it” are looking.

 

[Stainmaster]

There are absolutely ways to open schools with reasonable measures this fall. It involves distancing, testing, and hygiene.

I understand the health and safety if it but there are ways to be responsible. I wonder how hard people who “can’t see it” are looking.

How much do you trust the powers that be to implement this?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

How much do you trust the powers that be to implement this?

Enough.

 

[Stainmaster]

Enough.

Pass me whatever you're smoking.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Pass me whatever you're smoking.

It has my respiratory discharge on it. You sure?

 

[Stainmaster]

It has my respiratory discharge on it. You sure?

Well played. In all seriousness, we have been so far behind the curve with respect to testing that I have little faith in a scheme emerging before it's too late.

 

[8893]

What's the alternative though? Not getting a degree? Postponing getting a degree for a year or two and postponing making money for another year or two?

Our young people already have it bad enough before this, it seems we're just burdening their futures so much more. And having the different generations under the same roof for another year doesn't seem like a good health strategy.

There are no great answers, but I think a lot of people would just choose to take online courses for a year from a place like ASU that has been doing it for a long time and for a lot less money.

I've got two kids in this situation. One will be a senior and the other will be a freshman. I don't think we'll have an alternative for the senior because she's already committed to a year lease (guaranteed by yours truly) for some swanky off-campus apartment and the courses she needs to graduate at this point are not ones for which she would be likely to find online substitutes elsewhere. The one who will be a freshman is currently on a gap year and was working in DC in the school system, and she has been home since they've been closed in mid-March. We all realize that it would be better for her and for us for her not to be living at home next school year, but we're trying to figure out what her deal would be at college and whether that is worth it as compared to taking online courses somewhere else.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Well played. In all seriousness, we have been so far behind the curve with respect to testing that I have little faith in a scheme emerging before it's too late.

Thank you for playing along. I think respiratory discharge may be the nastiest pair of words ive ever typed in tandem. There’s been a #uptick in testing. I think at this point anyone get tested with an appointment. Tests are becoming quicker and less cumbersome to deliver and yield results. It may require bi-weekly testing for students/faculty. Production of testing would absolutely have to increase obviously but these needs to be a top priority.

 

[Stainmaster]

Thank you for playing along. I think respiratory discharge may be the nastiest pair of words ive ever typed in tandem. There’s been a #uptick in testing. I think at this point anyone get tested with an appointment. Tests are becoming quicker and less cumbersome to deliver and yield results. It may require bi-weekly testing for students/faculty. Production of testing would absolutely have to increase obviously but these needs to be a top priority.

That's really good to hear. From what little I've read, we still have a long ways to go before it's ramped up to the level of places like SK/NZ which are actually able to look at opening up now. I'm still not convinced that federal and state officials get how urgent testing is. The statewide reopening plans I've seen across both sides of the aisle don't seem to emphasize it that much.

 

[krinklecut]

This is leaving inner city kids (mostly black and brown) so much further behind than they already were.

It is, I absolutely agree. That's why we need a concurrent fast forward on ideas that were, until now, considered progressive. Now they're essential.

Internet is an essential utility. UBI needs to happen. Expansion of welfare. Socialized medicine. Unfortunately, the virus is immune to us saying "yeah but this stinks!" It doesn't care. It's on us to implement effective policy to face it head on.

 

[Peacefrog]

That's really good to hear. From what little I've read, we still have a long ways to go before it's ramped up to the level of places like SK/NZ which are actually able to look at opening up now. I'm still not convinced that federal and state officials get how urgent testing is. The statewide reopening plans I've seen across both sides of the aisle don't seem to emphasize it that much.

Agreed. Here in North Carolina the governor has put together a dashboard of four metrics that will be monitored to consider various degrees or re-opening. One of them is progress toward the current rate of 3k tests/day to 5k or 6k tests/day. I'm not convinced even that is enough testing but at least there is a clear awareness that greatly increased testing needs to underpin everything.

 

[superjohn]

It is, I absolutely agree. That's why we need a concurrent fast forward on ideas that were, until now, considered progressive. Now they're essential.

Internet is an essential utility. UBI needs to happen. Expansion of welfare. Socialized medicine. Unfortunately, the virus is immune to us saying "yeah but this stinks!" It doesn't care. It's on us to implement effective policy to face it head on.

I'm a Bernie voter, everything you named was roundly rejected by our political class and voters.

 

[gtcam]

Why does India, for a country so large, have proportionately so few cases per 1,000 people than any country in the world?
What is one of the biggest threats in India? Answer - malaria
What is the best antidote for malaria? Answer - the same drug that the president and his team suggested at the very onset of this pandemic and it was met with laughter, criticism and smear by the main stream media and certain politicians. India is the worlds largest producer of this drug and a huge amount of the residents take it in very moderate doses as a preventative and guess what it is also preventing.
But that's ok, let's place ridiculous principles of political hate before peoples lives

 

[gtcam]

Americans as a populace are too prideful and stupid to understand how to safe themselves. We in no way shape or form can shutdown the majority of small businesses for a year without the government paying everyone. But it can’t be this idea that we pick and choose who has to chance it and who doesn’t. That will setup a horrible slippery slope for businesses who want to restart and employees who don’t want to. What happens when people get sick? Are they allowed to sue their employers? Will the government protect the employees or employers? These are questions that have to be asked and answered before we “open” things up. In other words we need a real plan.
How many of those folks earning less than $600 before this pandemic will leave that luxury afforded by the new ridiculous unemployment ruling and go back to work when it is re-opened? Where is that going to leave these small businesses?

 

[krinklecut]

I'm a Bernie voter, everything you named was roundly rejected by our political class and voters.

Well we can't have things both ways. We can't open without taking steps to ensure safety and security of Americans. The amount of "well we need to go back to normal eventually!" around here is baffling. That's not how the world works.

There is no going back. There's only moving forward. The country on the other side of COVID-19 needs to be more progressive if we want it to work, and even then things won't look the same as they did before.

 

[PAHusky]

Why does India, for a country so large, have proportionately so few cases per 1,000 people than any country in the world?
What is one of the biggest threats in India? Answer - malaria
What is the best antidote for malaria? Answer - the same drug that the president and his team suggested at the very onset of this pandemic and it was met with laughter, criticism and smear by the main stream media and certain politicians. India is the worlds largest producer of this drug and a huge amount of the residents take it in very moderate doses as a preventative and guess what it is also preventing.
But that's ok, let's place ridiculous principles of political hate before peoples lives

Are you referring to hydroxychloroquine, which the FDA just came out a few days ago and advised docs against prescribing because of its side effects? States stockpile hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus as FDA issues warning
Numerous studies have been run and they don't show a huge effectiveness of the drug without potentially major side effects.

As to your interesting India point, let's not confuse causation and correlation. Pretty obvious your post's agenda was to defend our president's ridiculous promotion of the drug (before he walked it all back). No one is putting principles of politics before people's lives. When the president is promoting one cure after another in rapid succession without waiting for any sort of studies or scientific basis (first hydroxy, then the UV/bleach thing) of course it's met with "laughter, criticism and smear".

 

[Caronimo]

Bill Gates is a sketchy genius

 

[7774]

Are you referring to hydroxychloroquine, which the FDA just came out a few days ago and advised docs against prescribing because of its side effects? States stockpile hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus as FDA issues warning
Numerous studies have been run and they don't show a huge effectiveness of the drug without potentially major side effects.

As to your interesting India point, let's not confuse causation and correlation. Pretty obvious your post's agenda was to defend our president's ridiculous promotion of the drug (before he walked it all back). No one is putting principles of politics before people's lives. When the president is promoting one cure after another in rapid succession without waiting for any sort of studies or scientific basis (first hydroxy, then the UV/bleach thing) of course it's met with "laughter, criticism and smear".

Unfortunately there's basically no bar for abject stupidity that gtcam can't sail over (or under, depending upon how you look at it) with ease.