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UConn President: Fall sports likely to be cancelled

Hey Adrien! said:
Random thought that popped in my mind:

Once fans are allowed to attend games, I can see it being much easier in larger places that don't typically draw anywhere near capacity.

For example, the Yale Bowl should no problem. Most games are at like 1/8th capacity, there's plenty of room to walk around and find space...even the bathrooms and vendors are outside the arena. Minor league baseball stadiums too.
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So AAC games should allow fans to attend regardless of the situation. You can easily keep 6 feet between fans in those basketball arenas.
 
JimHurley said:
So AAC games should allow fans to attend regardless of the situation. You can easily keep 6 feet between fans in those basketball arenas.
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Hah.

But seriously, you're right. I go to a few Sacred Heart games a year and spacing is rarely an issue. However, Fairfield and Iona games are much more tightly packed, so those schools might have to take a conservative approach to crowd control. Likewise, for UConn games, XL Center will be a lot easier to control than Gampel.

I read an article the other day that KBO games will be at 20% capacity when they first let in fans.
 
Widespread testing for coronavirus will be crucial to having college sports in the fall — especially contact sports such as football and basketball, the NCAA’s chief medical officer said Friday.

Dr. Brian Hainline expressed cautious optimism that college sports could be played during the fall semester as long as leaders take a methodical approach.

“It's not going to be risk-free, that's for sure,” Hainline said in an interview with The Associated Press. “If this is rolled out in stages and reasonably, we're really paying attention to proper surveillance and we get the tests available, I think we can have fall sports. My concern is if we just rush into this too quickly because of this almost sense of desperation, that we just have to get going.”

www.courant.com

NCAA’s top doctor: Testing crucial to having sports in fall

Widespread testing for coronavirus will be crucial to having college sports in the fall — especially contact sports such as football and basketball, the NCAA’s chief medical officer sai…
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HooperScooper said:
Widespread testing for coronavirus will be crucial to having college sports in the fall — especially contact sports such as football and basketball, the NCAA’s chief medical officer said Friday.

Dr. Brian Hainline expressed cautious optimism that college sports could be played during the fall semester as long as leaders take a methodical approach.

“It's not going to be risk-free, that's for sure,” Hainline said in an interview with The Associated Press. “If this is rolled out in stages and reasonably, we're really paying attention to proper surveillance and we get the tests available, I think we can have fall sports. My concern is if we just rush into this too quickly because of this almost sense of desperation, that we just have to get going.”

www.courant.com

NCAA’s top doctor: Testing crucial to having sports in fall

Widespread testing for coronavirus will be crucial to having college sports in the fall — especially contact sports such as football and basketball, the NCAA’s chief medical officer sai…
www.courant.com www.courant.com
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This much needed widespread testing narrative with college kids like homemade masks is visible and sounds good so it gives many a false sense of security, but logically it’s nonsense. The asymptomatic young people would only test positive for 4-7 days and are not as highly contagious as someone with a fever. So if someone tests negative - do you test them every seven days to see if they catch it the following week? It’s not practical especially for a group in which almost no one dies. I remember Gov Cuomo lectured the spring break college kids for the March spike in NY. Turns out that was nonsense and it was the 2 million people who had traveled back and forth from Europe per genome testing of virus mutations.
 
But Chief it seems that 18-23 ish people can in fact get the virus and they can absolutely pass it on to others. So that means you need to keep them in quarantine or at least away from parents grandparents and older faculty (?). and such. And that raises the question of what the purpose of the whole enterprise is does it not?
 
Chief00 said:
This much needed widespread testing narrative with college kids like homemade masks is visible and sounds good so it gives many a false sense of security, but logically it’s nonsense. The asymptomatic young people would only test positive for 4-7 days and are not as highly contagious as someone with a fever. So if someone tests negative - do you test them every seven days to see if they catch it the following week? It’s not practical especially for a group in which almost no one dies. I remember Gov Cuomo lectured the spring break college kids for the March spike in NY. Turns out that was nonsense and it was the 2 million people who had traveled back and forth from Europe per genome testing of virus mutations.
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Chief is all over this. The practically has become super political & not logical. Since day one I believe that we opened everything up & explain the risk to the older people & the people with previous health conditions.

The reality that is what is about to happen anyways throughout the nation. Also, the risk in the beginning was that we wouldn’t have enough healthcare facilities or workers & ventilators- that has been proven wrong- unfortunately older people are still passing away even with strong healthcare.

In turn, that means our society will be under the same conditions until there is a vaccine or an alternative drug that prevents people from getting badly sick or dying.

Testing is the key- it has always been. Sports comes back when testing is available through all avenues.
 
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freescooter said:
But Chief it seems that 18-23 ish people can in fact get the virus and they can absolutely pass it on to others. So that means you need to keep them in quarantine or at least away from parents grandparents and older faculty (?). and such. And that raises the question of what the purpose of the whole enterprise is does it not?
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So you are going to test college kids once a week?
Quarantine the elderly and those with preexisting conditions - if you do that - the kids aren’t likely to infect them.
To show you how upside down our CT leadership is - to your point- we made kids come home from college where they are around mostly other kids - to live with mom and dad - who you believe may catch the virus from their college age kids.
Most kids are either asymptomatic or mild cases - so let them catch it at college get over it in a week and come home at the end of the semester hopefully with immunity.
If you have college age kids you realize even at home they sleep when you are up and are up when you sleep - mild cases aren’t highly contagious compared to someone that develops a fever anyways. This is mostly non-sense - NY caught it from Europe not college kids on spring break - Cuomo was wrong about that.
 
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Chief00 said:
So you are going to test college kids once a week?
Quarantine the elderly and those with preexisting conditions - if you do that - the kids can’t infect them.
To show you how upside down our leadership is - to your point- we made kids come home from college where they are around mostly other kids - to live with mom and dad - who you are concerned about catching the virus from their college age kids.
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This is likely what it’s going to come down to. The vulnerable will continue to self isolate and the healthy will begin the return to normalcy. We can’t stay locked down until a vaccine is available.
 
Chief00 said:
Chief knows how to analyze data of all kinds. Bottom-line, all age groups 20-70 get COVID-19 at about the same rate. If you are under 60 it’s typically less severe than most flu’s. Over age 80 it’s a killer and you need to be careful in the 60-79 range. It should have zero impact on 18 -23 year old kids playing any game. CT Number of Deaths:
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In Fla there have been zero deaths in anyone under 24

Florida Stats
 
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WingU-Conn said:
Who cares if the college kids catch it and pass it on each other?

It's not like they can pass it on to anyone working on college campuses who isn't under the age of 24, and who happens to live and shop in their local communities with their friends and families.

There's only around 4 million people working at universities around the country. Let's roll the dice.
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You got to be smarter than that? It’s all about managing risk not eliminating it. If employees are
over age 60 or have underlying conditions -stay home - and work from home if you can. But, don’t send 30,000 UConn students home to live with their parents and grandparents, etc. That has been tried in CT and NY and we see the results. It wouldn’t surprise me if we have 200k to 300k deaths in the next 18 months so it’s serious stuff but the practices you buy into will make it worse. In theory with the 14 day incubation period following what you advocated - we would have been out of the woods by mid April - that did not happen. Time to move away from the CT/NY failed policies. The policy our governors came up with on nursing homes would be criminal if you could prove intent.
 
Chief00 said:
don’t send 30,000 UConn students home to live with their parents and grandparents, etc. That has been tried in CT and NY and we see the results.
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The list is long, but this is one of the dumbest things you've ever said.

Kudos, I'm impressed.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Sure, the numbers in CT and NY are bad because they sent the kids from CT and/or NY home to CT and/or NY and nowhere else in the country.
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The China travel ban got criticized so the President was slow to move on Europe - that’s how NY got seeded - then one well intentioned but disastrous state policy after another led to these horrible numbers in NJ, NY and CT. The misguided focused on ineffective ventilators against this virus and hospital beds we did not need - while the nursing homes were locked up like apartments in Wuhan for people to die - while all the focus was on protecting hospital staff not nursing home staff.
Now my daughter got an email how to make your own mask by The Oaks in Storrs - when all research shows homemade masks are ineffective - but they are just following the recommendations of our leaders.
Yet, there is not one word in these press conferences regarding the importance of supporting your immune systems through vitamins, sleep and exercise. That’s is much more effective and important than meaningless home made masks / yet crickets on that subject.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
The list is long, but this is one of the dumbest things you've ever said.

Kudos, I'm impressed.
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Just to be clear, asymptotic kids are not highly cata
WingU-Conn said:
Sure, the numbers in CT and NY are bad because they sent the kids from CT and/or NY home to CT and/or NY and nowhere else in the country.
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Just to be clear, the premise of my whole argument was the March tristate spike was seeded by adult European travel not the spring break college kids. However, if you believe the NY Governor’s rant about spring break narrative, you would want kids on campus not home with their parents. Asymptomatic people can be contagious but not highly contagious like someone who is about to develop a fever. Additionally, when they are contagious it’s for a shorter duration. So making them the focus of our policy is a little peculiar. A point of reference, over 40% of CT deaths are nursing home, so why not more focus there? I doubt spring break college kids seeded that.
True, Chief is itching to get back on the Grind this summer but on stuff like this I follow the data.
 
Chief00 said:
The China travel ban got criticized so the President was slow to move on Europe - that’s how NY got seeded - then one well intentioned but disastrous state policy after another led to these horrible numbers in NJ, NY and CT. The misguided focused on ineffective ventilators against this virus and hospital beds we did not need - while the nursing homes were locked up like apartments in Wuhan for people to die - while all the focus was on protecting hospital staff not nursing home staff.
Now my daughter got an email how to make your own mask by The Oaks in Storrs - when all research shows homemade masks are ineffective - but they are just following the recommendations of our leaders.
Yet, there is not one word in these press conferences regarding the importance of supporting your immune systems through vitamins, sleep and exercise. That’s is much more effective and important than meaningless home made masks / yet crickets on that subject.
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That's a lot of words used just to fail explain your idiotic comment that the virus spread in CT and NY because college students were sent home.

Keeping kids in colleges would not have prevented this spread at all in CT and/or NY.
 
WingU-Conn said:
That's a lot of words used just to fail explain your idiotic comment that the virus spread in CT and NY because college students were sent home.

Keeping kids in colleges would not have prevented this spread at all in CT and/or NY.
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I agree with you that it's silly to say school kids coming home was the reason for the high death toll in the tri-state area but he's right that schools are not the problem with spread of this disease...

Dr. Anders Tegnell of Sweden has made no proclomations but the one thing he's sure of is that schools need to be open, everything they've been shown is schools are not a significant mode of spread at all, it's nothing like the flu in that regard. The one thing he's really upset by is they haven't done a good enough job of protecting people in nursing homes, half their deaths are over 85 years old. Almost no countries have done a good job of protecting nursing homes.
 
superjohn said:
I agree with you that it's silly to say school kids coming home was the reason for the high death toll in the tri-state area but he's right that schools are not the problem with spread of this disease...

Dr. Anders Tegnell of Sweden has made no proclomations but the one thing he's sure of is that schools need to be open, everything they've been shown is schools are not a significant mode of spread at all, it's nothing like the flu in that regard. The one thing he's really upset by is they haven't done a good enough job of protecting people in nursing homes, half their deaths are over 85 years old. Almost no countries have done a good job of protecting nursing homes.
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I don't think people understand just how difficult it is to prevent the spread in nursing homes. It's nearly impossible without quarantining the entire facility and everyone who works there.
 
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