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Few Thoughts:
*An impressive win against a good Marquette team on their home court by 26 points.
*When Paige got injured (knee to knee with the Marquette player), i thought (as i'm sure many other UConn fans), there goes this season. Luckily, Paige was able to shake it off and lead the team to victory.
*The starting 5 of UConn are playing really good together on both offense and defense. Each of them is very different as a player but the mix of their abilities is a pleasure to watch.
*UConn's defense in the second half was amazing.
*UConn controlled the boards against a tough/physical team.
*Paige: what else can be said about this generational player...poetry in motion...i was the most impressed by her block on the layup attempt where she flew in from way back and blocked the ball. Reminded me of a Stewie block from years ago...She did force some shots but we need her to take 18-20 shots a game to be competitive against the bigger, top teams.
*Nika: was really good and the timing of her scoring could have not been better.
*Ash: she plays like an upper classman. Doesn't force anything, takes good shots and makes them and is so so smart on the court. She is clearly the iron women of the team (38 min. this game).
*KK: her speed is amazing. I'm sure that when she gets a bit stronger (hopefully by next season), those dashes to the basket will end with and 1.
*AE: Not a good game by her standards. Too many bad shots...was great on the boards. Her issue is that she is a bit like a bull in a China shop and that is why she can be taken out of a game with offensive fouls. I'm pretty sure that this is on every scouting report of the opposing teams.
*Q: was ok. She clearly got a lot of potential and more growth is needed.
*Ice: very disappointing game. Bad hands, couldn't finish layups, tried to dribble which ended with a turnover..we need her to be way more effective against the top teams.
*All in all a great win. Bring on ND!
 
Watching one of the highlights videos, I paid special attention to the collision with King. On the bench afterwards, Paige seemed to be rubbing the muscle on the side and slightly above her knee. In other words, it may not have been a bone on bone collision. If I'm right about this, the area around her knee will be sore tomorrow and may even be swollen. This shouldn't pose any long term problem as long as she is careful to bring the swelling down so. it doesn't stretch any ligaments or tendons out of position. I imagine Janelle Francisco is all over this.
 
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You are all way too hard on Ice. I thought she played well defensively and on the boards and made great strides with the small things. Once she starts finishing around the rim this team will be reach a new level. A growth game for her but she seems to be getting closer and closer to getting it.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Do the refs have to be specifically WCBB refs or can they be from anywhere so long as they know the rules? Surely this is a problem money can solve.
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If they're not WCBB referees, how can we be sure they know the rules?

NCAA women's basketball has its own unique rulebook and procedures, quite different from men's NCAA basketball, and certainly very different from NFHS, WNBA or FIBA. But who knows, maybe they can just head to the nearest Holiday Inn Express and sign a few up.
 
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msf22b said:
Thoughts:

-The interesting thing about Ash's game is how quiet she was on "O" in the 1st quarter...did she even attempt a shot?...I was thinking...She's rebounding, good D, passing...being guarded closely and not shooting...

-But the game opened up when Nike started her 'lil run. Again, I was thinking...what the teams needs now is fir Nike to shoot...More focus on her, left Ash open and bang.
You can't guard everybody tight...

-Ice was more like a freshman tonight, did a few things well,,,got some boards, but more hands of stone and rushing on "O," She'll be fine (eventually).

-Nan referred to the frosh all looking like frosh at times tonight...True, KK made some over ambitious drives in the general direction of the hoop; probably showing off for the family...but otherwise a solid game...Q, once or twice looked lost...In my HO...she's the one that has to learn to make good decisions and compete harder, using her god-given ability and wonderfully athletic frame...She will.
Don't remember Ash looking like a frosh at all.

- For me...at their best...it was again beautiful BB, that we old-timers love to see.
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The only problem Ash has as i see it is after we make a shot she runs back on defense and doesnt keep her eye on who's coming behind her. Several times one of the Marquette girls ran by her, got the ball and hit a 3 before Ash knew what happened. THATS a freshman mistake.
 
I was at the game tonight and had a great seat. Two of AE's foul calls were questionable. One was definitely not a foul. She grabbed a rebound or loose ball and was stretched out and when she straightened up the Marquette player flopped. AE was also continuously getting hit while shooting under the rim and it seemed to have an impact on her shot. She seemed frustrated at times. The refs were very inconsistent. Calling ticky tack fouls sometimes and letting a lot of other stuff go. It had to be difficult for the girls to figure out how to deal with that. The refs were in proper position, just making poor calls.

Like so many others mentioned, Paige had a great game. It's fascinating watching her as she prepares to get the ball or once she gets it, you can tell that she's calculating and planning ahead for what the defense might do and what she is going to do to counter. On defense it's the same. She's like a general on the floor, always planning several steps ahead.

For Nika, after the timeout in the 2nd (when they made the run) you could see it in her eyes. She came out and immediately took control of the offense. She is always intense, but this was different. She sparked the run that separated them at the end of the 2nd. Prior to that, Nika wasn't having her normal good game. Her passes were a bit off and a bit lackluster. From this point onward, Nika played great.

Ashlyn had a great game from the start to the finish.

I thought that KK had a really good game also. A couple people mentioned that they thought that she was showboating a bit for the Wis crowd. I didn't see that at all. She had some great drives and had two or three that I thought she was fouled but didn't get a call.

Ice and Q had decent games, but with freshmen mistakes. But both contributed good meaningful minutes and are continuing to make visual improvements each week. Ice's confidence continues to grow and as it does her game will continue blossom. Q has come a long way as well. Her defensive improvement is noticeable week by week. The more they play the better both will get on both sides of the ball.
 
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What is a freshman mistake? Don't upperclassmen make the same mistakes? When Nika forces a pass that results in a turnover or Edwards misses an easy layup, are those called senior mistakes? A mistake is a mistake no matter who makes it.
 
Did you notice:
-Marquette seemed to physically fade starting in Q3. UConn, on the other hand, seemed to get stronger. Shade in particular barely broke a sweat and seemed ready to run laps after the game even after playing most of the game.
-UConn is a great job of disrupting and shutting down Marquette's hot shooters the second half. May seem obvious, but an example of why coaching really matters.
-Ice worried me since seemed a half step slower than the past few games. No elevation on her shots. Is her knee giving her issues? While we know she can do more, still a solid game in the backup role. She used her body well on several picks and rebounds. Marquette's guards seemed to slow down rather than run into the picks she set.
 
Plebe said:
If they're not WCBB referees, how can we be sure they know the rules?

NCAA women's basketball has its own unique rulebook and procedures, quite different from men's NCAA basketball, and certainly very different from NFHS, WNBA or FIBA. But who knows, maybe they can just head to the nearest Holiday Inn Express and sign a few up.
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It's basketball not brain surgery. It's not that complicated.
 
IMHO, I believe Maj Forsberg is the best ref we have at this point.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
You are all way too hard on Ice. I thought she played well defensively and on the boards and made great strides with the small things. Once she starts finishing around the rim this team will be reach a new level. A growth game for her but she seems to be getting closer and closer to getting it.
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She is getting better, but she has to refrain from putting the ball on the floor when she is in the paint. Ice has done that numerous times, and it never turns out well.
 
HopJim said:
Ice worried me since seemed a half step slower than the past few games. No elevation on her shots. Is her knee giving her issues?
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I had the same concern in the chat. If we noticed it, I’m sure the coaching staff and Janelle and Andrea saw it too.
 
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Just a few notes. I thought when Nika actually covered Hare she did a great job on her. I also think that Nika has to be an offensive player the entire game, every game. It changes everything out there. We now know that she has a dependable pull up, a consistent 3, and a strong right handed drive move. She should use them regularly.

Ice had a relapse last night with timing issues but I think it is just a matter of playing through it. KK has to be more selective on her drives and recognize that when she does so, if it is not a clear path, she can kick it out for an open 3 or a better short shot. Forces by her and by Liyah at times become turnovers which limit our offensive opportunities.

What can you say about Paige? She is just a pure pleasure to watch on both ends of the court.
 
By the end, it was a good win. This definitely is a Paige centric team. She is a great player who plays fearlessly and with abandon. I fear a great injury will occur before the end of this season and it will be over. So goes Paige, so goes the team. This team is short and sassy.
 
AgStatesman said:
19 at half - I need more than 26 for the game from Paige.

Ice needs to find some game. She isnt showing a thing on either end of the court.
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BUT... the game didn't need more than 26 from Paige. That's worth noting in a year where the bench is almost unplayable and in desperate need of game experience to prep for the NCAA tourney.
 
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ThisJustIn said:
Brain surgery is not all that complicated. Just read a book.
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It takes 15 years (if you're good) and around a million dollars worth of education to become a neurosurgeon. Going out on a limb here, but I think the bar to become a referee for a sporting event is just a bit lower than that.
 
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Bills Fan said:
I hate to disagree strongly with the Boneyard boss, BUT others have commented on 3 of the 4 FR so, I'll just agree with the above posters, including Kara's post game show comments, and say one of the 4 does not, and did not, look "young" tonight.

Her shooting and shooting efficiency numbers tonight were off the chart and there was a reason why Geno played her over 35 minutes. As he said in the past week or so, 'He trusts her" and I don't think that would be the case if she "looked young."
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I don’t know what people don’t get about Ice. Not only is she a freshman who is coming off missing a whole year, but she is also a post player and post players often take more time to adjust. Anyone who thinks players like Dolson and Charles came in looking like the experienced versions of themselves don’t remember their early struggles, let alone not having missed their whole first year. Comparing her to Shade or Arnold is comparing apples and rudabagas. Shade is a very unusual freshman in a lot of ways.
 
UcMiami said:
I came here specifically to note this. I thought they were terrible both ways, completely ignoring heavy body contact, grabbed arms, etc. Paige got away with a few, and Aaliyah got mugged, and then they call the phantom ones like the foul on the three by Q.

It does really cause you to wonder if there are any good refs in WCBB if this crew is a FF quality crew.
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So what do you think @UcMiami, we pick off some of those wonderful NFL refs? :p
 
HopJim said:
Did you notice:
-Marquette seemed to physically fade starting in Q3. UConn, on the other hand, seemed to get stronger. Shade in particular barely broke a sweat and seemed ready to run laps after the game even after playing most of the game.
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In the post-game, I believe that CD said Marquette got fatigued. In the first game against Marquette, I think the same happened. It must be frustrating when you are exhausted and already trail by 20, as the other team runs by you. It's one big advantage of Geno's small lineup--run the opposition into the ground.
 
Regarding Ice, did anyone notice or remember the play early in the game where she made a pass from the high post to Paige who was cutting to the basket for a layup? Tom Brady (her cousin?) couldn't have led his receiver more accurately.

How many freshmen post players across the country would even think to make that pass, or execute it so perfectly?
 
Cuango said:
Shade is a player! I am a little concerned with her minutes though. We certainly don’t want her to get worn down as we head toward the tournament!
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True, but to para phrase the Chic Anderson from Secretariat's Belmont win, "She's moving like a tremendous machine"! Keep that machine well tuned.
 
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BBallF said:
Just a few notes. I thought when Nika actually covered Hare she did a great job on her. I also think that Nika has to be an offensive player the entire game, every game. It changes everything out there. We now know that she has a dependable pull up, a consistent 3, and a strong right handed drive move. She should use them regularly.

Ice had a relapse last night with timing issues but I think it is just a matter of playing through it. KK has to be more selective on her drives and recognize that when she does so, if it is not a clear path, she can kick it out for an open 3 or a better short shot. Forces by her and by Liyah at times become turnovers which limit our offensive opportunities.

What can you say about Paige? She is just a pure pleasure to watch on both ends of the court.
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KK was a little over-excited playing in front of her family and former high school teammates. I have zero concerns about KK.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
So what do you think @UcMiami, we pick off some of those wonderful NFL refs? :p
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Officiating college basketball is actually very difficult. It’s easy for fans to criticize the refs. If you’ve ever officiated basketball you know that; they are doing the best that they can. Like any job/profession some are worse than others. It’s easy to look at replays and see missed calls. no use arguing with the officials either; some players tend to argue about everything…..
 
(even with all the injuries) the ability of KK and Shady speaks volumes for our squad... Ice is coming (still... not there yet though)... It's refreshing to see our backcourt depth on display... we weren't this tough the past few years back there...
 
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