It may showcase some future stars, next years quarterback ???
It may showcase some future stars, next years quarterback ???
Would still like to win this game though. This mentality of who cares about this game is a very poor reflection on society and on gaining lifelong values.No one is going to think the program is less healthy or strong because of Wasabi Bowl. It may showcase some future stars, next years quarterback, any number of positives. The outcome is irrelevant, it's not what we do, its what we do with it. Candle comes out swinging after Christmas.
Good question, and I'm not sure that they are able to do so? The military academies are just different, and although there may be a few players that have professional aspirations, there would probably be some unseen repercussions if they said no thanks to a bowl game. Then again, if a player refuses, they may just chalk it up to an "injury" and handle things internally. Many many years ago, my husband was involved in something at USNA. Totally legit, and yet they made his last year hell. He should have flunked out but they wouldn't let him, as they could not ever admit that they were wrong. That's a beer and wings story.Can I assume that not one player at army is going to opt out of playing
Good question, and I'm not sure that they are able to do so? The military academies are just different, and although there may be a few players that have professional aspirations, there would probably be some unseen repercussions if they said no thanks to a bowl game. Then again, if a player refuses, they may just chalk it up to an "injury" and handle things internally. Many many years ago, my husband was involved in something at USNA. Totally legit, and yet they made his last year hell. He should have flunked out but they wouldn't let him, as they could not ever admit that they were wrong. That's a beer and wings story.
Care to shed some light, then?Before people get excited (too late) that St. Nick will be coming down the chimney to lead the way for us, the chatter right now is that he likely won't play in the bowl. So like the great wise monkey said:
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Source? This would be disappointing, if true.Before people get excited (too late) that St. Nick will be coming down the chimney to lead the way for us, the chatter right now is that he likely won't play in the bowl. So like the great wise monkey said:
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I don't think it is a question off can they but will they They believe in the team mentality and commitment to team members and fellow cadets. Even though on Saturday while on the field Army and Navy both wanted beat the other team they have the utmost respect for each other and even though they are at different academies they realize they have the same work ethic and commitment to serve after graduation.Good question, and I'm not sure that they are able to do so? The military academies are just different, and although there may be a few players that have professional aspirations, there would probably be some unseen repercussions if they said no thanks to a bowl game. Then again, if a player refuses, they may just chalk it up to an "injury" and handle things internally. Many many years ago, my husband was involved in something at USNA. Totally legit, and yet they made his last year hell. He should have flunked out but they wouldn't let him, as they could not ever admit that they were wrong. That's a beer and wings story.
I didn’t see that Farrar indicated that he was going to entered the portal. My guess he will start in the bowl game for us.Care to shed some light, then?
Joe’s apparently out…
You’re saying all indications are Nick is out…
McDonald had a cast on his throwing hand most of the season..
Farrar entered the portal (if I recall correctly)…
That leaves…Tyler Smith from Fairfield Prep??
I don’t think most, if not many, want to play in this bowl game.why would evers be in the portal? Candle meet with him? I was excited to see what he could do, looked suspiciously good in limited action.
I don't think it is a question off can they but will they They believe in the team mentality and commitment to team members and fellow cadets. Even though on Saturday while on the field Army and Navy both wanted beat the other team they have the utmost respect for each other and even though they are at different academies they realize they have the same work ethic and commitment to serve after graduation.
You can feel the respect shown for each other by the way they line up for the opponents alma mater song after the game win or lose.
Whether Uconn wins or loses (and am hoping for a Uconn win) the Fenway Bowl I hope the teams show Army the respect they deserve and stay on the field for the Army alma mater song.
ALL fans going to the game should stay until the Army alma mater is sung to support these players and cadets and their commitment to serve after graduation.
Yes. I apparently wasn’t remembering correctly. Looking at Medics portal list, Farrar isn’t listed.I didn’t see that Farrar indicated that he was going to entered the portal. My guess he will start in the bowl game for us.
Is there any reliable reporting on this? I asked three AI's this question and all three said to date there has not been reliable reporting.Before people get excited (too late) that St. Nick will be coming down the chimney to lead the way for us, the chatter right now is that he likely won't play in the bowl. So like the great wise monkey said:
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Care to shed some light, then?
Joe’s apparently out…
You’re saying all indications are Nick is out…
McDonald had a cast on his throwing hand most of the season..
Farrar entered the portal (if I recall correctly)…
That leaves…Tyler Smith from Fairfield Prep??
Source? This would be disappointing, if true.
I am merely passing along what I've encountered from sources that are supposedly in tune with the program. Nothing seems definitive, but it sure as tish sounded like Evers ain't suiting up. So Sammis better do his best Santa impression, check his list, and see who's not portaling and opting out.Is there any reliable reporting on this? I asked three AI's this question and all three said to date there has not been reliable reporting.
Could be the defense mechanism of some who believe we have no chance with a depleted roster against a complete roster on an Army team whose offense is tough to beat even when we're at full strength.Would still like to win this game though. This mentality of who cares about this game is a very poor reflection on society and on gaining lifelong values.
I just can't support the message that voluntarily being inactive is the right thing to do. I don't think the outcome is end all be all but this non chalant mentality to this bowl game just bothers me.
Could be the defense mechanism of some who believe we have no chance with a depleted roster against a complete roster on an Army team whose offense is tough to beat even when we're at full strength.
You’re forgetting the fact that the AD and school knew the risks of accepting this bowl game, yet pursued anyways because it’s local and we’d profit off it.Yeah, that’s partially it, but it’s also just frustration with the system. We are being disappointed by the system and when it hits your fan base you feel it.
A couple of years ago when FSU was looking like a national champ until their QB went down in their last game, their fans were absolutely pumped. Then they got left out of the playoff because they were a depleted team without their star QB. So, then half their starters or more opted out of the bowl game and they got wrecked. The average fan, including the ones on this board, had no sympathy whatsoever and did not want to hear that their good players didn’t even play. They said FSU was just a paper tiger and “next man up” and all the other cliches. Unrelated most likely, but FSU has had real rough sledding ever since.
We cannot afford that kind of reaction when Army grinds us to dust. Nobody cares that we may not even have a QB for the game if the one remaining guy we have turns an ankle in practice. This is a systematic failure and it looks like it is going to make a mockery of our program at a very bad time.
On top of that, in order to cheer on your team you have to pay a bunch of money and freeze your butt off. Bad timing and unfortunate circumstances all around. The only thing that makes this ok is if tons of crazy UConn fans show up and our remaining guys somehow pull off what could be considered a genuine miracle. I hope it happens but it sure looks like we are about to be a victim of the system.
I get how fans feel that way this system just sucks. I was hoping and still hold out hope that our senior leadership has our team focused. Look Mora moved on it's life so move on, you have worked too hard and gone this far to not go all out against Army IMO.Could be the defense mechanism of some who believe we have no chance with a depleted roster against a complete roster on an Army team whose offense is tough to beat even when we're at full strength.
Evers has a lot of upside, at least to my untrained eye. He's got all the tools, but makes mistakes which I think can be coached to be corrected. No better time to see what Evers than in the bowl game.why would evers be in the portal? Candle meet with him? I was excited to see what he could do, looked suspiciously good in limited action.
You’ve mentioned this a few times… so now I’m curious which other bowl did UConn officially have an offer from that you are aware of?You’re forgetting the fact that the AD and school knew the risks of accepting this bowl game, yet pursued anyways because it’s local and we’d profit off it.
I heard from someone close to the team they had options. I don’t know if that’s true for certain. What I think is reality is the AD pushed hard for Fenway Bowl from the get-go thinking morale would be the same as last year.You’ve mentioned this a few times… so now I’m curious which other bowl did UConn officially have an offer from that you are aware of?
I don't doubt for a second that when the bowls started looking into filling out their matchups, a few considered us and likely one or two made a phone call.I heard from someone close to the team they had options. I don’t know if that’s true for certain. What I think is reality is the AD pushed hard for Fenway Bowl from the get-go thinking morale would be the same as last year.
It appears that the two options were the Boca Raton Bowl on Tuesday December 23rd or the Fenway Bowl on Saturday December 27. Based on rumors of the payout for the Fenway Bowl, UConn will probably make up to $1 million on the bowl vs losing money on the Boca bowl. And, a bowl 2 days before Christmas, where you would probably fly back home on Christmas Eve, is not going to attract fans. There will be more UConn fans in Boston than there would have been in Boca. Besides, the opponent would have been Toledo, which was probably a non-starter since that is where Candle is from. I don't think the location of the bowl resulted in Fagnano and Bell opting out.I heard from someone close to the team they had options. I don’t know if that’s true for certain. What I think is reality is the AD pushed hard for Fenway Bowl from the get-go thinking morale would be the same as last year.
Right. And if the only certain thing these days is the money, you take it. I don’t blame the decision by the AD. But the opt outs are the reality we live with.I don't doubt for a second that when the bowls started looking into filling out their matchups, a few considered us and likely one or two made a phone call.
As far as whether we had better options than the Fenway Bowl, I imagine that would at best be up for debate.
We could have faced considerably further travel for a lower profile bowl against an opponent that most would complain about if we paid them to come to the Rent.
If we ended up in Myrtle Beach playing Kennesaw St, Frisco playing Ohio U or Montgomery playing Jacksonville St would it have been better?