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bleedgreen said:
Predictably the responses here for the Storrs diehards ignored the fact that the overwhelming majority of UConn alumni, who are at least if not more important to the sports programs than the current students, live in the Hartford area. The fact is that this university is an expense (and asset!) to ALL of the state and not the tiny but vocal minority in the Storrs area who want everything UConn does to be crammed into this tiny and inaccessible part of the state. Step outside of the bubble of the hardcore UConn fan and you will find that the overwhelming popular opinion of people who actually attend UConn hockey games is not to let the program become a distant third priority in an undersized facility on the Storrs Campus. Those people are all taxpayers who have a say and the governor's ear. And I'm sorry if people choose to stop reading when I point out that Hartford is now a UConn campus and the state is more and more interested in shifting more of the University that way, but it's a reality. The provincial attitude is on its way out and I'd be sad to see the potential of this hockey program wasted while we deny that inevitability.
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The long game for CT taxpayers is a vibrant state university keeping and attracting the best minds in the northeast. Not generating a modest amount of secondary business for it's capital city. So let's no pretend like we are the ones who are lost in the trees.
 
Any update on the status of the Arena? Did the locals form a coalition against it's construction?

I swear if they stick the team in XL for good I'll freak out
 
bleedgreen said:
Hartford is not off-campus. Planning for attendance to decrease is planning for failure and ridiculous. Storrs was never meant to be home to the amount of activity these athletics programs generate, and the writing is clearly on the wall to begin expanding UConn's presence, all on fronts, in Hartford. It makes sense and it is the best option for everyone except for a minority who enjoys Storrs being it's own little petty fiefdom.

I get that for some people Storrs is a comfortable location, but for most of the state it's a long backroad drive at night through the middle of nowhere. It's silly to cram two, nevermind three, programs which are attracting support and interest comparable to a professional team into that little town.
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This is blatantly refuted by a NATIONAL movement that is building development on the edge of Campuses nationally. Not having a second campus in Hartford. And, that Storrs location happens to have 3000+ acres and is solving its water/sewer issues. Hartford is what it always was ... not much going on 24/7 in a decent sized city. Unlike New Haven, Providence and others, Hartford is not climbing.

I see Storrs building as a Collegetown far easier than redeveloping a blighted urban center. As far as Hockey, I like that UConn reaches out to the rest of the state by being 45 minutes west. Not more than half the games however.
 
Pudge said:
This is blatantly refuted by a NATIONAL movement that is building development on the edge of Campuses nationally. Not having a second campus in Hartford. And, that Storrs location happens to have 3000+ acres and is solving its water/sewer issues. Hartford is what it always was ... not much going on 24/7 in a decent sized city. Unlike New Haven, Providence and others, Hartford is not climbing.

I see Storrs building as a Collegetown far easier than redeveloping a blighted urban center. As far as Hockey, I like that UConn reaches out to the rest of the state by being 45 minutes west. Not more than half the games however.
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All sorts of challenges to making Storrs anything more than a cow town.

http://dailycampus.com/stories/2015...s-lead-to-mansfield-town-council-disagreement

After hiring a consultant to evaluate Nextgen CT impact on Mansfield, and hearing the report that it would actually be positive for the town as long as it allows private development to capitalize on the state's investments, the natives are predictably up in arms.

The growth ( naturally and otherwise ) of our state university. as well as any semblance of a university town is held hostage by a dozen or so rubes.
 
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FDNY99 said:
Pretty embarrassing to see the team doing stretches in the lobby of Freitas before practice. For those of you who don't think that something needs to be done on campus for the men's & women's hockey teams this picture says it all:
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-huskies/hc-uconn-hockey-media-day-0930-20150929-story.html
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It seems to be the ongoing theme of UConn athletics. In order for various Husky sports teams to remain or become more competitive, on campus athletic fields and facilities must be upgraded and modernized in order to attract better athletes. It is true in basketball, soccer and baseball, and it most certainly applies to ice hockey as well, as the UConn ice rink simply does not cut it in any way as a Hockey East level practice or game facility.
 
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auggie22 said:
All sorts of challenges to making Storrs anything more than a cow town.

http://dailycampus.com/stories/2015...s-lead-to-mansfield-town-council-disagreement

After hiring a consultant to evaluate Nextgen CT impact on Mansfield, and hearing the report that it would actually be positive for the town as long as it allows private development to capitalize on the state's investments, the natives are predictably up in arms.

The growth ( naturally and otherwise ) of our state university. as well as any semblance of a university town is held hostage by a dozen or so rubes.
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This statement says it all - "'Raymond said she was weary of the report, adding the town is “fastly becoming not the town of Mansfield, but the town of UConn.'"

UConn and Mansfield are symbiotic. One without the other would not exist and its not like UConn is new, it has been in Storrs since 1881 Without UConn, Mansfield would be just another small, agricultural community in eastern Connecticut. Instead, its nationally know and its residents enjoy many of the amenities that a B1G university has to offer ranging from guest speakers, to plays, to sporting events, and simply outdoor, pedestrian areas to walk, run, and ride a bike. While I am sure many residents of Mansfield, many of whom work at UConn, are supportive of the university, some days, I think UConn shoudl be carved-out fo the town so that it can better meet its unique needs
 
auggie22 said:
All sorts of challenges to making Storrs anything more than a cow town.

http://dailycampus.com/stories/2015...s-lead-to-mansfield-town-council-disagreement

After hiring a consultant to evaluate Nextgen CT impact on Mansfield, and hearing the report that it would actually be positive for the town as long as it allows private development to capitalize on the state's investments, the natives are predictably up in arms.

The growth ( naturally and otherwise ) of our state university. as well as any semblance of a university town is held hostage by a dozen or so rubes.
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I have said this for awhile on this forum:

The University does NOT have to go through the Town for approvals. They have done so as a "courtesy" going back to Celeron Square in 1985 (which, btw, is on University land). The Herbst administration has made more than noises on taking back the approval process and putting into a separate State Authority - with unknown composition.

The Town has overplayed their hand.
 
Pudge said:
I have said this for awhile on this forum:

The University does NOT have to go through the Town for approvals. They have done so as a "courtesy" going back to Celeron Square in 1985 (which, btw, is on University land). The Herbst administration has made more than noises on taking back the approval process and putting into a separate State Authority - with unknown composition.

The Town has overplayed their hand.
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About time. The Mansfield NIMBYs can shove it.
 
There aren't any rumblings about UConn not building an arena, are there?
If not, I wouldn't stress about it. Especially if the HE is making them build one. If the HE is making them build one and they aren't, that means we are going to the B1G because the last thing we want to do is piss off the HE.
And no I'm not saying we're going to the B1G. I'm just saying I fully expect an arena on campus at some point soon once things get ironed out.
 
The Viking said:
There aren't any rumblings about UConn not building an arena, are there?
If not, I wouldn't stress about it. Especially if the HE is making them build one. If the HE is making them build one and they aren't, that means we are going to the B1G because the last thing we want to do is piss off the HE.
And no I'm not saying we're going to the B1G. I'm just saying I fully expect an arena on campus at some point soon once things get ironed out.
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The B1G would likely make us build an arena on campus too.
 
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The Viking said:
There aren't any rumblings about UConn not building an arena, are there?
If not, I wouldn't stress about it. Especially if the HE is making them build one. If the HE is making them build one and they aren't, that means we are going to the B1G because the last thing we want to do is piss off the HE.
And no I'm not saying we're going to the B1G. I'm just saying I fully expect an arena on campus at some point soon once things get ironed out.
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Mansfield has already come out against the proposed site of the new UConn hockey arena at the corner of Rte 195 and S Eagleville Rd where Mansfield Apartments are today. Tish is the preferred site according to the most recent UConn master plan. I have not seen any updates since. Mansfield opposition has been noted on the town meeting minutes in January, February and March of 2015.

From the February minutes: "A suggestion by Mr. Kochenburger to add a note to the Multipurpose/Hockey Arena section indicating that committee objections to the Rte. 195/South Eagleville location were unanimous
was also accepted as..."

http://www.mansfieldct.gov/filestorage/1904/5335/1912/20150126_minutes.pdf

Only odd point was that it was called a multipurpose/hockey arena?
 
huskymedic said:
Well, I wouldn't call Disney on Ice or Marvel Avengers ~ hockey?
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My question was that it has been the first time I have seen the rumored new UConn facility referred to as a 'multipurpose' facility and not just a hockey arena.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
My question was that it has been the first time I have seen the rumored new UConn facility referred to as a 'multipurpose' facility and not just a hockey arena.
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Well, it may be thought of theoretically as a "multipurpose arena" but the clear #1 tenant would be the hockey program. They'd probably build it so it could be used for smaller arena shows in the offseason or something, that wouldn't fill XL/Mohegan Sun.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Only odd point was that it was called a multipurpose/hockey arena?
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First thought that came to my mind was volleyball or possibly gymnastics. But volleyball is a fall sport and that would possibly conflict with hockey season.
 
Ultimately though is UConn going to NOT build an arena if Mansfield is objecting to whatever UConn suggests? I'll assume at some point UConn tells Mansfield to pound sand - if it's possible for them to do it as some suggest.

Bottom line is there will be an arena built on campus somehow, some way.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Only odd point was that it was called a multipurpose/hockey arena?
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In addition to hosting the Husky ice hockey teams, the current UConn ice rink also has things like public/student ice skating sessions and has probably has other groups (figure skating, for example) that use the ice. I suppose in that way it is a multipurpose arena.
 
XL news, PAWSARF info, UConn and Spectra lease, NFL spring minor league football?.
Lots of different stuff.

http://crdact.net/data/Unsorted/9-17-15-DRAFTBoardMtgMinutes-73138-1.pdf

"XL Center – Arena Study

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Kim Hart gave a brief report regarding the XL Center. CRDA received a concept plan from SCI Architects and it is currently with the construction cost estimator reviewing the $250 million estimate to bring the building into the 21st Century.

CRDA is also working with SCI to develop a schedule regarding how the building can be kept open for appropriate sports seasons while getting the work done as quickly as possible. Once funding is in place, dates can be coordinated with the pending schedule.

Rentschler Field

Based on the first 2 events, Rentschler Field is tracking below budget and attendance is below forecast. Per capita has increased slightly.

Other Venue items

Bond Commission requests are to wrap up work at Rentschler Field and XL Center. It also includes getting work started at Tennis Center for next year.

UConn lease - Anthony Lazzaro brought the Board up to date on the three year lease with Global Spectrum and UConn. UConn has agreed to the terms and the lease should be finalized next week.

David Jorgensen informed the Board of information he learned of regarding the possibility of a Spring NFL minor league that is being discussed. David suggested utilizing Rentschler Field should such an idea become a reality. More information on the topic will be discussed as additional information is made available.

The CT Fastrak trial run to UConn football games was successful".
 
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In my dream fantasy world somewhere B1G gives UConn an offer for membership conditional on the state carving out UConn/Storrs from Mansfield and letting the University do whatever they want in that area. Herbst knows what she's doing but it's damn near impossible to make progress with these people opposing every single addition to the area.
 
Drew said:
In my dream fantasy world somewhere B1G gives UConn an offer for membership conditional on the state carving out UConn/Storrs from Mansfield and letting the University do whatever they want in that area. Herbst knows what she's doing but it's damn near impossible to make progress with these people opposing every single addition to the area.
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They already have that capacity. I think the people of Mansfield are going to wake up sometime in the next year & see that the University approves massive amount of development on campus. It's coming. They went 30 years without using it. The other thing that is a mitigating factor is that ONLY the University has certainty on water & sewer.
 
Pudge said:
They already have that capacity. I think the people of Mansfield are going to wake up sometime in the next year & see that the University approves massive amount of development on campus. It's coming. They went 30 years without using it. The other thing that is a mitigating factor is that ONLY the University has certainty on water & sewer.
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I believe that UConn has taken care of its foreseeable water needs by connecting the campus to a regional water authority, ConnecticutWater, so that they are less reliant on the Willimantic River. I believe that this was approved in 2013 and looks to be near completion.

https://www.ctwater.com/en/Current Projects/PP - UCONN.aspx
 
The issue is not what UCONN does on university land. Sure, they can ignore the cries. The issue is that private investment is not going to follow, which will ultimately limit the university.
 
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