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UConn is a basketball school with a football delusion.
It's fine for any other state university to take on football, but somehow Connecticut can't do it because the program got really bad for five years. THIS ATTITUDE MAKES NO SENSE. Please stop saying we can't be competitive. We've literally done it before, and recently. Iowa and Kansas are not bigger than Connecticut, and they both have two state schools competing in power conferences.
 
Presidents run universities
Athletic Directors run the athletic departments
Brett Yormark is the visionary commissioner who is navigating change and keeping the XII at #3.
Everyone should stay in their lanes and listen to what the man says
"So won't you listen to what the man said"
 
It's fine for any other state university to take on football, but somehow Connecticut can't do it because the program got really bad for five years. THIS ATTITUDE MAKES NO SENSE. Please stop saying we can't be competitive. We've literally done it before, and recently. Iowa and Kansas are not bigger than Connecticut, and they both have two state schools competing in power conferences.
It really is the biggest loser mentality i have ever seen in sports.
 
UConn is a basketball school with a football delusion.
That's a bad attitude to have and really a loser's mindset. You can find many posts of mine being critical of UConn Football to the point of making fun of it just so I can cope. But having said that, UConn has been good at football when it was part of a big conference (Big East). To imply UConn Football cannot be good is flat out false.

The fans are ready when it comes to football, however UConn Football is making competent football look way too difficult. All that is necessary is a spark to make the tinderbox of fan enthusiasm explode (i.e. close games and a semblance of good offense). The fans will show up if they are given even a decent product. The problem is UConn Football has not provided the bear minimum to give the fans a sliver of hope. A Big 12 invite would absolutely turn UConn into a decent to good football team as they would have more money to reinvest into football and basketball.
 
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That's a bad attitude to have and really a loser's mindset. You can find many posts of mine being critical of UConn Football to the point of making fun of it just so I can cope. But having said that, UConn has been good at football when it was part of a big conference (Big East). To imply UConn Football cannot be good is flat out false.

The fans are ready when it comes to football, however UConn Football is making competent football look way too difficult. All that is necessary is a spark to make the tinderbox of fan enthusiasm explode (i.e. close games and a semblance of good offense). The fans will show up if they are given even a decent product. The problem is UConn Football has not provided the bear minimum to give the fans a sliver of hope. A Big 12 invite would absolutely turn UConn into a decent to good football team as they would have more money to reinvest into football and basketball.
100%. If UConn can be moderately competitive, I'm there and highly engaged. I don't need them to go 9-3 or 8-4 every year. It just got to the point for a while where they weren't watchable. It felt like I was watching big kids pick on little kids. And even then, I'd go sometimes. For me, the bare minimum is being able to move the ball some on offense and not getting gashed for 450+ yards every game on defense. I'm not asking a lot here.

They're watchable now, by the way.
 
people saying stay in the Big East are short sighted or nostalgia stricken, people who say the main reason why UConn got back to being a powerhouse in hoops is because of the Big East are ignorant, the Big 12 is not the American on all fronts financially, brand, reputation, and in competition the Big 12 is significantly better this won't be a mistake this will be the only real decision we have to make.
#1 basketball conference is not a bad place to land
 
That's a bad attitude to have and really a loser's mindset. You can find many posts of mine being critical of UConn Football to the point of making fun of it just so I can cope. But having said that, UConn has been good at football when it was part of a big conference (Big East). To imply UConn Football cannot be good is flat out false.

The fans are ready when it comes to football, however UConn Football is making competent football look way too difficult. All that is necessary is a spark to make the tinderbox of fan enthusiasm explode (i.e. close games and a semblance of good offense). The fans will show up if they are given even a decent product. The problem is UConn Football has not provided the bear minimum to give the fans a sliver of hope. A Big 12 invite would absolutely turn UConn into a decent to good football team as they would have more money to reinvest into football and basketball.
Kinda like the class dunce having a genius delusion.
 
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So the Big 12 wants to use our men’s/women’s basketball programs for the next 6-8 years for clout, not let us play football, not get full fiscal benefit of the conference, and then finally let us in as a full member in 2031 or later?

Yeah I will pass. Talk about walking into a grenade.
 
So the Big 12 wants to use our men’s/women’s basketball programs for the next 6-8 years for clout, not let us play football, not get full fiscal benefit of the conference, and then finally let us in as a full member in 2031 or later?

Yeah I will pass. Talk about walking into a grenade.
It's more than the Big East offers.
 
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While rumors surrounding UConn joining the Big 12 continue to spiral, many discussing the move have one question: are the Huskies taking football seriously?

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So the Big 12 wants to use our men’s/women’s basketball programs for the next 6-8 years for clout, not let us play football, not get full fiscal benefit of the conference, and then finally let us in as a full member in 2031 or later?

Yeah I will pass. Talk about walking into a grenade.
I'd like to think this fact pattern isn't lost on AD Dave and whoever is in the brain trust.
 
So the Big 12 wants to use our men’s/women’s basketball programs for the next 6-8 years for clout, not let us play football, not get full fiscal benefit of the conference, and then finally let us in as a full member in 2031 or later?

Yeah I will pass. Talk about walking into a grenade.
So you're objecting to the financial terms of the deal before anyone knows what they are? Damn, I wish I was that smart.

Don't you think we need to have a deal, and you know what it is, before trashing it?
 
Better basketball conference, more money, more upside, football scheduling, potential football home, affiliated with similar institutions.
So they’re paying us to get stomped on in football 4-5x a year, with minimal home games. Is the basketball conference that much better?
Money and a seat at the table.
How much more money without football until early 2030’s? Will not be as much as you think.
I'd like to think this fact pattern isn't lost on AD Dave and whoever is in the brain trust.
Coming from a guy who buys 50 cases of Miller Lite for a “$2 beer night” I wouldn’t put it past him.
 
So the Big 12 wants to use our men’s/women’s basketball programs for the next 6-8 years for clout, not let us play football, not get full fiscal benefit of the conference, and then finally let us in as a full member in 2031 or later?

Yeah I will pass. Talk about walking into a grenade.
The 2031 full membership has to be guaranteed based on metrics fully within our control so they can’t keep moving the goal posts, pun intended. For instance, it can’t be averaging a certain number of wins or attendance per year. It has to be monetary like stadium expansion and other investments into football.
 
So you're objecting to the financial terms of the deal before anyone knows what they are? Damn, I wish I was that smart.

Don't you think we need to have a deal, and you know what it is, before trashing it?
Big 12 holds the upper hand in these negotiations, zero chance we get a favorable deal. It’ll be a dog water offer.
 
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The 2031 full membership has to be guaranteed based on goals fully within our control so they can’t keep stringing us along.
And if the conference falls apart in 2029 what happens?
 
So the Big 12 wants to use our men’s/women’s basketball programs for the next 6-8 years for clout, not let us play football, not get full fiscal benefit of the conference, and then finally let us in as a full member in 2031 or later?

Yeah I will pass. Talk about walking into a grenade.
Hypothetical question................would we be getting "X" number of BIG 12 games a year as we ramp up the program??? That would be important as well as increase interest and tix sales
 
Hypothetical question................would we be getting "X" number of BIG 12 games a year as we ramp up the program??? That would be important as well as increase interest and tix sales
You think Big 12 is going to give us ~4 home games a year vs their teams? No way they travel out here for that.
 
So they’re paying us to get stomped on in football 4-5x a year, with minimal home games. Is the basketball conference that much better?
Gee, we should have never left the Yankee conference with that poor attitude.
Two or three Big 12 games at the Rent, what's not to love.
If nothing else they're on par, but metrics say Big 12 is better recently.
 
And if the conference falls apart in 2029 what happens?
how is that a concern? the BIG10 tv deal expires in 2029 but they have never shown interest in poaching any BIG12 teams. the BIG12 deal expires in 2031. the SEC tv deal expires in 2033. all 3 conferences will have renewed their tv deals before the ACC tv deal expires in 2036. If any conference falls apart it will be the ACC since the networks dont wanna spend any more money on sports inventory. that's exactly what just happened with the PAC. the BIG, SEC, and BIG12 had all just renewed their deals and there was no money left for them.
 
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