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FfldCntyFan said:
Not to interrupt this urinating competition but regardless of how well any of us can defend our preference on the outcome, the only thing that matters is if we do or do not receive an invitation.

If the B-12 offers, we join. If they don't, we remain in the Big East.
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They better get better terms than what’s being reported.
 
August_West said:
It’s been a different world for a long time now getting single digit millions beating up on teams getting 70 million . This money business is boy who cried wolf. I’m numb to it now. Other programs ( not just us) have found a way.

I also refuse to believe that non football schools will be left behind in the basketball world. Villanova, Gonzaga, Georgetown, St. John’s, Dayton, Creighton, Marquette, will all still exist ( with various levels of success) in 10 years, 15, 20.
That has been the case for last 20 years despite everyone’s doomsday scenarios and I can see it being the case for at least as long as I’m still around. So I just see this “revenue sharing” blather as the latest in a never ending line of “ it’s over if this doesn’t happen” malarkey.
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I'm sorry but no.

There will be revenue sharing, nobody is doing it yet, but it's coming. How do you think the conversation with the state will go when we walk hat in hand to ask for $10M to pay guys on top of every other operating expense related to basketball? They will just say too bad, you should have taken the Big 12 offer. Where is the money going to come from Storrs Central?

You're smarter than this, if we are offered. we're gone.

Secondly when and if this happens the donations are going to flow in at a greater pace and other sports will benefit. We're not some one sport school like St. Johns.
 
cellocgg said:
All of our problems with attendance and conference affiliation are because of the schools location. If we were in NH or Fairfield counties we would've been B1G 10 years ago
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Maybe. But you’re making a point, unintentionally, I think, that I agree with anyway. In New England people use that as an excuse for not attending. And it’s true. People won’t go because of that. That is the northeast culture. In the Midwest and the south tens of thousands of people have zero issue driving 2-3 hours each way to get to their Saturday games.
 
It's pretty inarguable that NIL has changed the landscape - just look how much we have benefited from it. Look at all the other programs it's left gutted with transfers.

If revenue sharing comes as a % of tv media money..that leaves UConn basketball in a very precarious position.

Also, with respect to the NCAAT it's an absolute behemoth $ wise and I'd agree a tournament of p4, 5,6? Would probably garner less $.. But they'd also get all the proceeds as opposed to divvying it up across all of the NCAA d1-2,3.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Not to interrupt this urinating competition but regardless of how well any of us can defend our preference on the outcome, the only thing that matters is if we do or do not receive an invitation.

If the B-12 offers, we join. If they don't, we remain in the Big East.
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This but with additional Hurley context...

If the B-12 offers, we join and Hurley says he loves the Big 12. If they don't, we remain in the Big East and Hurley says he loves the Big East.

That's how these things work.
 
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August_West said:
www.espn.com

Dan Hurley: Rejecting Lakers' offer was not 'leverage play'

Dan Hurley told "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" that the rejection of the Lakers' offer was not a leverage play, noting he has a deal in place at UConn that will make him the highest-paid coach in college basketball.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Thanks August. I think this is the quote you're referring to:

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I'm not sure that I've read that as being "the" reason for staying, but it's clearly important to him. Still, I suspect his dad would somehow managed to get to the big 12 tournament as well.
 
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tzznandrew said:
This year he also said that UConn would have returned to prominence even in the AAC. That was his way of being okay with leaving the BE.
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I also assume that the fat check Hurley could get with B12 money would change his mind
 
cellocgg said:
It makes me abysmally sad and disrespected that we are back to back champs and have elite olympic sports just to get no respect from not only the fans of these conferences but also the conferences themselves

what good is going back to back if it means nothing to anybody
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You just saw us make two dominating runs through the tournament. Why do you need other people to care, or give UConn respect, for you to enjoy it?
 
ZooCougar said:
I agree that the new stadium idea is a crack pipe dream.
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It may be a dream or it may be a requirement, we'll have to wait and see. Either way, improvements will be made. I strongly feel that an on-campus stadium brings an entirely different game day experience in addition to the game and tailgating. Dining out, visiting dorms, fraternities and sororities, shopping. It would be a boon to the campus. But the stadium situation can be discussed once the XII situation is finalized.

 
Kolumbo said:
It may be a dream or it may be a requirement, we'll have to wait and see. Either way, improvements will be made. I strongly feel that an on-campus stadium brings an entirely different game day experience in addition to the game and tailgating. Dining out, visiting dorms, fraternities and sororities, shopping. It would be a boon to the campus. But the stadium situation can be discussed once the XII situation is finalized.

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Marc should just keep quiet about the stadium topic until we get invited or not.
 
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August_West said:
Do you even have any idea how asinine that sounds? Off back to back titles? People said the same thing a dozen years ago as the reason we needed to join the AAC. Whelp we’ve won 3 titles since then in 2 different leagues. You absolutely had zero idea how the intervening twelve years would play out. No one did. And you have no idea about how the next twelve will play out.

And we are not even being invited as a full member! You are begging for table scraps that we don’t even need.

If we were treated with the respect we deserve and were invited as a full member I’d be much more receptive to this. It would be understandable. But we aren’t . We are opening ourselves up to one of the worst ass poundings college sports has ever seen, and we’ve already been on the receiving end of a few, this one will take the cake though.

Full member makes sense. Nothing else does.
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Who is begging for scraps? Benedict and Maric? Cause we are just message board posters.
 
businesslawyer said:
You just saw us make two dominating runs through the tournament. Why do you need other people to care, or give UConn respect, for you to enjoy it?
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It just seems to mean so unbelievably little to others based on how we get treated
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Not clear the Big 12 is on the right side of the divide either, and if they aren't then we joined a league with Kansas State and Iowa State and abandoned a league with teams that basketball fans actually care about.

I am generally pro-Big 12, but this is not a simple choice. UConn is making a big bet on the future of college football that we may get really, really wrong.
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We have to make the move. It puts us in the #3 conference in the pecking order. At that point, we only need one more upward move and the school will be safe indefinitely.
 
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Waquoit said:
He's not a nutjob.
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I mean, he’s pretty close to it. Yes, he’s a basketball genius, but he’s the one waving incense around pre-game, and wait, didn’t he shove Cam Spencer to avoid a 5 second call?

(make no mistake - he’s our maniacal head coach. I love Hurley)
 
people saying stay in the Big East are short sighted or nostalgia stricken, people who say the main reason why UConn got back to being a powerhouse in hoops is because of the Big East are ignorant, the Big 12 is not the American on all fronts financially, brand, reputation, and in competition the Big 12 is significantly better this won't be a mistake this will be the only real decision we have to make.
 
huskidork said:
people saying stay in the Big East are short sighted or nostalgia stricken, people who say the main reason why UConn got back to being a powerhouse in hoops is because of the Big East are ignorant, the Big 12 is not the American on all fronts financially, brand, reputation, and in competition the Big 12 is significantly better this won't be a mistake this will be the only real decision we have to make.
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The BE hasn’t helped DePaul. Indiana, once a perennial powerhouse and considered a blue blood, hasn’t regained its prominence in spite of not being outside the BIG.

Houston has done well in the AAC and now in the Big 12 in both sports.

It’s coaching that’s the most critical factor. I’d say Dan Hurley would take it as a challenge to prove he could be just as successful in the B12 as the BE.
 
djct1999 said:
As long as Kim English is in Providence, I’d much rather play them than Texas. I don’t care at all to play Creighton and Marquette. Playing St. John’s at MSG should be mandatory.
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We can play whomever we want at MSG. We don’t need to ask St. Johns. Remember that Pitino said no.
 
The downside I see are destinations like Lubbock & Stillwater. Make Syracuse look like a vacation spot. But they get balance out by Boulder, Tuscon & Tempe
 
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CL82 said:
Do you actually believe that our conference affiliation was the reason that Dan didn't take the LA job? Interesting take.
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Its the exact opposite.
A continuation in the Big East and Dan would be in LA .
In The light of those comments
his remarks in his post contract press conference “we‘ve given a lot to the Big East “ when asked the Kumbaya Big East question make sense . He was probably aware of the potential move at the time.
He is right
They may still be collecting UConn money in 2031 .
My guess is they have to add 4-6 teams to replace UConn media money at partial shares
 
Kolumbo said:
The total window for a football game is at least 8 hours, a couple before kickoff and a couple after the final whistle. It's very easy. Plus, widen 195 to 3 lanes and make it 2 lanes one direction in and 2 lanes one direction out. Easy Peasy.

No, but that was not my point. My point was that all of the football schools are no longer in a basketball conference, nor should they be. Football needs to spread its wings, basketball will be fine wherever.
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UConn is a basketball school with a football delusion.
 
dvegas said:
The downside I see are destinations like Lubbock & Stillwater. Make Syracuse look like a vacation spot. But they get balance out by Boulder, Tuscon & Tempe
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Orlando. There are lots of CT fans in Florida. Our presence was felt at the Florida hoops game a couple seasons back.
 
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