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UCONN BD of Trustes Responsibility for FB and MBB Demise?

Scrutiner said:
Hathaway was asleep as BC, Miami and Va Tech were invited to join the ACC, while Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Louisville all were invited to join the ACC two (and three) years after she became UConn's President and after her AD, Warde Manuel, was hired.
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Hathaway was a disaster, but he can't be blamed for Miami/VA Tech leaving. He was at Colorado State at that time. That was when Big Lew Perkins saw the handwriting on the wall and made a swift exit stage left out of town. Hathaway replaced him.
 
QDOG5 said:
Receiving an AAU designation is something UConn should strive for as an academic institution. The list of schools with the designation is pretty impressive. All the BIG10 schools except Nebraska and many of the ACC schools. I still hold out hope that UConn ends up in one of those two conferences and the AAU can only help their case.
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Trivia question: What is the only conference with 100% membership in the AAU?
 
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JMick said:
The board is terrible. So is Herbst as it relates to athletics. The verdict is still out on Benedict but I like him. He inherited an absolute disaster. We're lucky he hasn't left yet.
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President Herbst has bigger issues on her plate than athletics. Hey, I enjoy UConn sports as much as anyone, but I don't believe UConn Athletics should be a priorty for the President. She should be focused on academics, research, getting the best professors and students at UConn. Leave the athletics to the AD.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
President Herbst has bigger issues on her plate than athletics. Hey, I enjoy UConn sports as much as anyone, but I don't believe UConn Athletics should be a priorty for the President. She should be focused on academics, research, getting the best professors and students at UConn. Leave the athletics to the AD.
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But, athletics is what drove UConn 2000 and made the university what it is today. It has been the best marketing for the university and it has lead to better academics and better students applying to UConn.

Also, if she could ever get UConn into the AAU, it may lead to getting into the Big 10. It would also lead to greater research dollars and an enhanced academic perception.

In her position as President of UConn, she need to focus on both academics and athletics.
 
8893 said:
Agree 100%, and I think Herbst's attention has been squarely and properly focused on that goal; but institutionally we are handicapped by the state's dismal financial situation.
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That financial "situation" has a much bigger effect than any seems to realize. It not only affects the amount of money that the university can spend, it affects the donors and their generousity, that affects facilities and support, it affects season tickets sales and attendance, and it affects how other conferences assess UConn's fitness.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
President Herbst has bigger issues on her plate than athletics. Hey, I enjoy UConn sports as much as anyone, but I don't believe UConn Athletics should be a priorty for the President. She should be focused on academics, research, getting the best professors and students at UConn. Leave the athletics to the AD.
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That doesn't contradict anything I said. She still sucks with athletics. I personally can't stand her but that's worthy of a different thread.
 
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AAU is a closed shop. You have to be invited and it while you have to have north of $500m in endowment for reasearch- that still doesn't open the door. It is a goal of the university but the state budget cuts has taken the wind out of those sails because we don't have the money to attract the professors who bring research grants with them. AAU acceptance is a 20 year road with everything going right AND the association looking to add. Herbst is in year 7 so you can't really hold her accountable to the end product. She set us off on that path- but had literally 30 years of ineptitude to catch up on regarding AAU status.
 
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@hardcorehusky, you seem to know quite a bit about the AAU. Most of the schools seem somewhat predictable but then there are UBuffalo and Stony Brook and almost all of the UCalifornis schools. Can you shed some light on those schools and how they gained entrance?
 
QDOG5 said:
@hardcorehusky, you seem to know quite a bit about the AAU. Most of the schools seem somewhat predictable but then there are UBuffalo and Stony Brook and almost all of the UCalifornis schools. Can you shed some light on those schools and how they gained entrance?
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Buffalo was admitted in 1989 and Stony Brook in 2001. Things changed as schools like Nebraska and Syracuse have recently lost their status. Boston U in 2012 was the last admittee.

A lot of the schools ecame members around the early 20th century.

When conference realignment was hot and there was a shot at the Big Ten- we learned a lot about the AAU on the Boneyard realignment board.
 
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CTBballfan243 said:
President Herbst has bigger issues on her plate than athletics. Hey, I enjoy UConn sports as much as anyone, but I don't believe UConn Athletics should be a priorty for the President. She should be focused on academics, research, getting the best professors and students at UConn. Leave the athletics to the AD.
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I guess you are unaware of the academic reputation before UConn basketball took off in the 90s. She needs money for faculty, research, etc. Imagine what she could do with the money Pitt is making now from athletics. Instead she is sending UConn athletes to the legislature to plead for money.When UConn needed senior leadership most, she didn't get it done.
 
Yorkeez4 said:
Most of the athletic problems are the result of the Hathaway hire and Uconn is still trying to recover. I do not understand how anyone blames Herbst.
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I am sorry but she and Manuel flubbed the ACC invite. Instead of being proactive and aggressive, they monitored the situation while Jurich took their lunch money.
 
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UConnJim said:
Not on current board.
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I'm just curious. Did he leave on his own or was thrown out? I didn't get any word of this and know that someone who could have helped UConn, rather than himself, lost the alumni vote to him.
 
JMick said:
That doesn't contradict anything I said. She still sucks with athletics. I personally can't stand her but that's worthy of a different thread.
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She's focused on academics not realizing national sports exposure is a chief reason UConn has climbed the ranks through more applications yielding more selectivity and more competitive admission statistics. Classic hubris of an academic dean with no real sports appreciation ignoring the horse you rode to get you there.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
President Herbst has bigger issues on her plate than athletics. Hey, I enjoy UConn sports as much as anyone, but I don't believe UConn Athletics should be a priorty for the President. She should be focused on academics, research, getting the best professors and students at UConn. Leave the athletics to the AD.
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LOL, UConn is where it is today because of athletics. Period. To suggest there 2 are disconnected or UConn is going to continue to rise up the rankings as basketball and football decline is a joke.
 
Herbst knows and appreciates that athletic success is the front porch of the university. She also knows that the AAU is like a sorority— you have to be invited. She’s building the endowment, creating a revitalized campus environment, raising the academic level of the school. To suggest she has been anything but the best leader this University has ever had is simply disingenuous or sadly uninformed.
 
coachn said:
At this point I like the idea of playing in the BE for basketball ONLY . ND can do it and the BE needs one more team for scheduling. SAVE OUR basketball.
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People say that but they never explain how playing in football he Big East saves our basketball program. Inept coaching is the problem. In other words it is HOW we play not WHO we play that is the issue. But I’m happy to listen to the argument as long as it isn’t the same tired nonsense about bashing the AAC.
 
Danzz said:
They got incredible practice facilities built which is ,more than Lou Rome could get done.
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Considering he never tried to get a practice facility built, not sure you can really hold that against him. Do you even know who Lou Rome was?
 
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freescooter said:
People say that but they never explain how playing in football he Big East saves our basketball program. Inept coaching is the problem. In other words it is HOW we play not WHO we play that is the issue. But I’m happy to listen to the argument as long as it isn’t the same tired nonsense about bashing the AAC.
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Money. Big East payments >>>>> AAC
 
My only game prediction this year and I'm wrong. Sad. My only excuse is that my avatar fell out of a tree in Jamaica a few years back and neither of us has been the same since.
 
ASweet3781 said:
LOL, UConn is where it is today because of athletics. Period. To suggest there 2 are disconnected or UConn is going to continue to rise up the rankings as basketball and football decline is a joke.
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Please delineate the causative connection between improving basketball programs and UConn’s academic improvement.

And also why/how schools with limited (or no) athletics are able to improve academically
 
buddy said:
I am sorry but she and Manuel flubbed the ACC invite. Instead of being proactive and aggressive, they monitored the situation while Jurich took their lunch money.
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Specifically, how did we lose out on the invite? Are you speculating, or do you have solid insight?
 
gwhuskyfan said:
Money. Big East payments >>>>> AAC
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This is a fallacy. The difference between our overall AD revenue now compared with being in the NBE is negligible. We get our bowl revenue share from the AAC, whatever we make from our Tier 3 rights, and deals like Benedict made last year for a 1.2 million dollar payday to give up a home game to play BS College at Fenway. Also, take a look at the NBE TV ratings on FOX...abysmal. They're in for a rude awakening in their next round of media rights negotiations. Plus we have better TV coverage on ESPN/CBSSN. All our games are televised.

We go to the NBE and become independent or drop football, we lose all the football revenue producing streams. Nobody will want to play us, no bowl tie-ins, nothing. The NBE commissioner Val Ackerman also seems inclined to want to dictate to us what happens with our football program as a prerequisite for an invite.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Please delineate the causative connection between improving basketball programs and UConn’s academic improvement.

And also why/how schools with limited (or no) athletics are able to improve academically
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Who said it’s the only way?

The connection is obvious. The state funded the school at a higher level because of the success of the basketball programs.

They would not have had the support in Hartford to make the investment otherwise.
 
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