UConn and BCU talkin'

[Yawkey Way]

Conferences tend to allow their schools to protect their turf as long as its not a preposterous request. Because Pitt was an acceptable replacement to UConn, they went with BC's wishes early in the process to change it from the original UConn/Cuse addition to Cuse/Pitt
The Louisville thing as we all know by now was a move by the football schools to wield power. The hoops schools willingly gave up their reputation as an academic conference first and foremost by taking Louisville over UConn so that the FSU's and Clemsons could be happy.
Considering how many posts you have as a BC fan on a UConn board, I'd have to believe you've heard of these things by now.

Why are you on the Boneyard again, considering the two schools aren't rivals?

Sorry, but I'm just not going to explain anymore why I an here. I have explained it more than a dozen times now, over the lat couple of years, and thats enough explaining, if you are still interested in this, others can perhaps explain it to you.

As for BC " wishes being honored ":, the ACC schools really don't care about BC's " wishes ", They principally care about making money.. ..period. If the ACC schools ( or the BIG ) concluded that adding Uconn to their league over other possible school choices would make them more money, that would easily trump honoring BC's " wishes " on this matter. Thats just common sense too, imo.

 

[whaler11]

Sorry, but I'm just not going to explain anymore why I an here. I have explained it more than a dozen times now, over the lat couple of years, and thats enough explaining, if you are still interested in this, others can perhaps explain it to you.

As for BC " wishes being honored ":, the ACC schools really don't care about BC's " wishes ", They care about making money.. period. If the ACC schools ( or the BIG ) concluded that adding Uconn to their league over other possible school choices would make them more money, that would easily trump honoring BC's " wishes " on this matter. Thats just common sense too, imo.

Yeah the ACC doesn't have issues to vote on... and where a handful of votes can block things those votes can't be traded.

Congratulations to your fine kollege: your strategy to finally be ahead of UConn athletically is working.

Yet you'd have to admit that you achieved it by being the biggest bunch of pu@@ies that ever walked the planet. Clearly that doesn't bother you - which says as much about you as it does your beloved kollege.

Anyone who had any confidence in their athletic program would welcome a local peer and let the results talk. Instead you and your beloved BC prefer to win administratively instead of having it out on a level playing field.

Again we get thousands of words from this idiot but HFD gets banned.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Give UConn the ACC schedule and give BC the AAC schedule and how do you think those attendance numbers move for both schools, skippy.

Well, if you want to change things around like THAT, what if we moved the Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox, Patriots to Hartford from Massachusetts, gave you guys the ACC schedule to play in Hartford with all these pro teams there in Hartford too, and see how BC ,without this pro sports competition anymore in their area, does with their football attendance back up in Boston, compared to Uconn football in Hartford in THAT scenario. You want to do that,........" skippy " ?

 

[whaler11]

Well, if you want to change things around like THAT, what if we moved the Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox, Patriots to Hartford from Massachusetts, gave you guys the ACC schedule to play in Hartford with these pro teams too, and see how BC ,without this pro sports competition anymore, does with their football attendance compared to Uconn in Hartford THAT scenario. You want to do that... " skippy " ?

Why don't we make a simple change. Add UConn to the ACC and let's see what happens.

Oh wait. That's too scary for your 'leadership'.

 

[CAHUSKY]

My guess is they both (along with the football coaches from both schools) but BC's leadership wants nothing to do with us (in this sport). The parties that want it are trying to paint BC's leadership into a corner where they have no choice but to approve the game(s).

Do you really think BC "leadership" spends .000001 second thinking about football scheduling? If Adazzio and Bates want the game it will happen

 

[hjoerring]

So, this is like throwing red meet to hungry dogs. None of these coaches have much of a say- although their jobs may be at stake for saying too much. Both schools and their mothers/fathers know what a wonderful thing it would be for the schools, states, region (and even country) to play football. But as the BC's AD and coach remarked- there are scars. And these structured feelings are embodied in not just individuals, but also in institutions- the very fabric of things. Yes, we will play, one of these days, just don't know when that might be.
While I appreciate the news(?) from DC, he could push his way further in and talk to those who the sun nerver shines on. Of course it's much easier to talk to those loitering outside the doorway.

 

[CTBasketball]

This reminds me of the Civil Conflict. UCF doesn't really care, and either does Boston College. No incentive to play other than drive attendance up for one game - but that's not worth the possibility of getting beat by a lesser New England school.

 

[uconndogs]

BC will play Umass most years. Thats seems to be enough local attraction for college football fans in the state of Massachusetts from my observation. The state college system in Massachusetts produces a lot of grads that are from Massachusetts, many of whom remain in state for jobs after graduation. So they like playing BC. As for BC, most of their students now are from outside of N.E., so most of them would just yawn if a New England College like Uconn was put on the football schedule. It does nothing for these students, alums.. That said, I totally understand how this would be a VERY big deal in Connecticut, as many of its grads are residents of Connecticut, and Uconn football is ( or was ) big in the state.

There is a pecking order in college football. ND looks upon BC ,the way BC looks upon Uconn,, and Uconn looks upon Umass, the way Umass looks upon Holy Cross. It may not be fair, but its the reality of how football programs and its fan bases see themselves. All fan bases feel put upon by the ones higher up on the pecking order than them. There is nothing new under the sun in this, imo.

Why the disrespect in such a passive aggressive way. You are a visitor to this board, be respectful and act like a visitor.

You may refer to our UNIVERSITY as follows:
The University of Connecticut
Connecticut's flagship State University
UCONN
One of America's preeminent state universities

Given this board is largely dedicated to collegiate athletics you may also refer to the UNIVERSITY as follows:
Home of the 4 time nation champion UCONN men's basketball program
Home of the 10 time national champion UCONN women's basketball program
Home of .....list conference and national championships too numerous to elaborate upon here.....

We are NOT a New England college. I'm sure you are familiar with at least one, so that may be what limits your perspective and ability to show basic respect and politeness as a visitor to a board dedicated to the athletics of such and fine UNIVERSITY.

Mods, for what it's worth, I'm with Whaler on this one. It's time.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Why the disrespect in such a passive aggressive way. You are a visitor to this board, be respectful and act like a visitor.

You may refer to our UNIVERSITY as follows:
The University of Connecticut
Connecticut's flagship State University
UCONN
One of America's preeminent state universities

Given this board is largely dedicated to collegiate athletics you may also refer to the UNIVERSITY as follows:
Home of the 4 time nation champion UCONN men's basketball program
Home of the 10 time national champion UCONN women's basketball program
Home of .....list conference and national championships too numerous to elaborate upon here.....

We are NOT a New England college. I'm sure you are familiar with at least one, so that may be what limits your perspective and ability to show basic respect and politeness as a visitor to a board dedicated to the athletics of such and fine UNIVERSITY.

Mods, for what it's worth, I'm with Whaler on this one. It's time.

The context is everything. I was referring above to BC, Umass, ND, Uconn., I mentioned the distance factor. I referred to BC and Uconn both as a ' New England College " in respect to the DISTANCE factor, alone. If you care to reread that, you should be able to see that I was referring to this. I am aware that are 4 schools are Universities and not " colleges". As such It should be clear to all here that my comments as read in its appropriate context above regarding Uconn as a " New England College " had no disrespect component to it whatsoever. Put your pitchfork down. I did not disrespect Uconn by referring to it in such context as a " New England College " . All 3 of Uconn, BC, Umass were included in this context as " New England Colleges " by me, and it was in relationship to my comments on ND ( locaated in the midwest )) with distance a factor with the other 3 " New England Colleges ". Requesting to the moderators that I be banned for something like this is a bit ridiculous. My comments here regarding Uconn tends to be FAR less critical , aggressive hostile, poster insulting,, disrespectful than many of the Uconn alums with their own school, leaders, teams, other posters.. Thats my sense on how I have conducted myself in relationship to others on here over the last few years anyway.

 

[Adios]

Other than Notre Dame, the private schools are never going to have the pull public schools will. The masses (obviously) can relate to public schools much easier than most private schools. Schools such as BC would be best served by coming to terms with that and working within their own region to drum up interest amongst their own fanbase. But at this point in time, I'd rather develop a rivalry with UMass-Lowell.

 

[uconndogs]

The context is everything. I was referring above to BC, Umass, ND, Uconn., I mentioned the distance factor. I referred to BC and Uconn both as a ' New England College " in respect to the DISTANCE factor, alone. If you care to reread that, you should be able to see that I was referring to this. I am aware that are 4 schools are Universities and not " colleges". As such It should be clear to all here that my comments as read in its appropriate context above regarding Uconn as a " New England College " had no disrespect component to it whatsoever. Put your pitchfork down. I did not disrespect Uconn by referring to it in such context as a " New England College " . All 3 of Uconn, BC, Umass were included in this context as " New England Colleges " by me, and it was in relationship to my comments on ND ( locaated in the midwest )) with distance a factor with the other 3 " New England Colleges ". Requesting to the moderators that I be banned for something like this is a bit ridiculous. My comments here regarding Uconn tends to be FAR less critical , aggressive hostile, poster insulting,, disrespectful than many of the Uconn alums with their own school, leaders, teams, other posters.. Thats my sense on how I have conducted myself in relationship to others on here over the last few years anyway.

So you know we are a preeminent state university and lumped us in as a "New England college".

The correct response Yawkee was an apology, not a diatribe.

 

[Yawkey Way]

So you know we are a preeminent state university and lumped us in as a "New England college".

The correct response Yawkee was an apology, not a diatribe.

I saw nothing to apologize for, as you totally miscontrued by remarks, assigned to me a disrespect with my useage of the phrase " New England College(s) " that was neither intended, nor delivered, as such, then asked for my banning because you saw slight in that phrase, where there was none. In that vein, if it is an apology that should be extended, it would be more appropriate to be coming from you to me on this. That would be the correct, intelligent, gentlemenly thing to do now that you have had an ample opportunity to hopefully conclude that there was no slight at all to Uconn with my useage of this phrase for the 3 schools of Umass, Uconn, BC as New England based " Colleges ", in respect to ND as a midwest based school ( or college, or university, what have you )

 

[uconndogs]

You keep digging man.........

 

[FartMan69]

This guy's a disaster

 

[Samoo]

This reminds me of the Civil Conflict. UCF doesn't really care, and either does Boston College. No incentive to play other than drive attendance up for one game - but that's not worth the possibility of getting beat by a lesser New England school.

Two simple words: D*ckhead Troll.

 

[CL82]

Two simple words: D*ckhead Troll.

One simple word: 'Ignore'

 

[Redding Husky]

If UMass ever got its act together, a UConn-UMass football rivalry could be the best non-military rivalry in the Northeast. It could make BC an afterthought. Northeastern "rivalries":

Pitt-Penn State is dead.
Pitt-WVU is dead.
Syracuse-Penn State only mattered to Syracuse.
Maryland-WVU would have potential, but it's going nowhere.
Rutgers-Penn State? Don't make me laugh.
UConn-Rutgers died before it got off the ground.
BC-Syracuse doesn't matter; it's two private schools.

But UConn-UMass may have a lot of appeal, if the teams were decent.

 

[CTBasketball]

Two simple words: D*ckhead Troll.

Its called being realistic. It doesn't really do anything for anyone. Have them get us in the ACC then we'll start the rivalry.

 

[sub legacy]

This reminds me of the Civil Conflict. UCF doesn't really care, and either does Boston College. No incentive to play other than drive attendance up for one game - but that's not worth the possibility of getting beat by a lesser New England school.

Whether anyone admits it or not, the reality is: No potential rival (contrived or otherwise) is ever going to take UCONN football seriously if they can't even compete regularly in a conference their fans think they're too good for.

 

[CTBasketball]

Whether anyone admits it or not, the reality is: No potential rival (contrived or otherwise) is ever going to take UCONN football seriously if they can't even compete regularly in a conference their fans think they're too good for.

No one is going to take UConn football seriously unless they win. That's the reality.

 

[Ldandy]

If UMass ever got its act together, a UConn-UMass football rivalry could be the best non-military rivalry in the Northeast. It could make BC an afterthought. Northeastern "rivalries":

Pitt-Penn State is dead.
Pitt-WVU is dead.
Syracuse-Penn State only mattered to Syracuse.
Maryland-WVU would have potential, but it's going nowhere.
Rutgers-Penn State? Don't make me laugh.
UConn-Rutgers died before it got off the ground.
BC-Syracuse doesn't matter; it's two private schools.

But UConn-UMass may have a lot of appeal, if the teams were decent.

Sorry but UMASS is never going to get its act together in a manner that anyone outside of either school will ever notice. UMASS is woefully underfunded, plays in a glorified HS Stadium, has no ability to recruit athletes, and has the burden of zero conference affiliation. How can they ever create a product that will be attractive to TV outside of their annual paycheck games against Big 1o and SEC opponents?

I'm not saying this to be mean, but realistic. UMASS is minimum 30 years behind the curve and losing ground. UCONN has a better chance of forging a rivalry with Temple, a team that can recruit athletes, has some backing, and plays games on television. Hopefully you all get a B1G invite someday and get to renew your rivalry with Rutgers. Conference affiliation is the only trump card they hold over you, and they cling to it like grim death.

 

[weyuo]

1) The lawsuit is an excuse not to play not a reason.
2) If you think that Blumenthal somehow went rogue and prosecuted the suit on his own, you are mistaken.
3) Pittsburgh was plaintiff in the suit. If suing poisoned UConn chances, why didn't it hurt Pitt as well?
4)We now know that UConn was the first choice to join with Syracuse. They back filled with Pitt after BCU balked. So your supposition that that Pitt's superior planning got them in is flawed.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2003/oct/17/acc-expansion-remaining-big-east-schools-will-sue/?print

 

[Burkie22]

If UMass ever got its act together, a UConn-UMass football rivalry could be the best non-military rivalry in the Northeast. It could make BC an afterthought. Northeastern "rivalries":

Pitt-Penn State is dead.
Pitt-WVU is dead.
Syracuse-Penn State only mattered to Syracuse.
Maryland-WVU would have potential, but it's going nowhere.
Rutgers-Penn State? Don't make me laugh.
UConn-Rutgers died before it got off the ground.
BC-Syracuse doesn't matter; it's two private schools.

But UConn-UMass may have a lot of appeal, if the teams were decent.

Let's ignore the fact that most of this post is just totally wrong, but are you really saying that umass needs to get their act together ? Did you not see Uconn last season ? Umass would roll Uconn presently

 

[Burkie22]

It must be tough to get you BC fans to stop yawning. I mean, if USC at 8pm on ABC does nothing for your students and alums, who does?

BC consistently outdraws Uconn YOY (even with Uconns aggressive attendance records, see SMU 2015) so the attendance point you keep harping on doesn't really make sense. Also, the Uconn game of the millennium (vs Michigan) wouldn't even have been close to a sellout without all he maize in the crowd

 

[BlueandOG]

This is seen thru a Connecticut prism however.. and I get that. But in Massachusetts, there is more interest in BC and Umass getting together and playing football, than a BC - Uconn game. If we asked casual sports fans from Massachusetts would they rather watch BC play Uconn or Umass, the vast majority would say " Umass ". Thats not a disrespect to Uconn. Its the fact that there are far, far more graduates of the College State systems in Massachuetts, than there are Uconn grads in Massachusetts, especially the closer one gets to inside rte 495 corridor of Eastern Mass. This notion that somehow if Uconn plays BC in football that this will somehowbe a big shot in the arm to " New England College Football " ( heard many a time here ) is simply seen thru a Connecticut prism. BC students and alums are mostly from outside New England. They are not from N.E. at all. And there are few Uconn grads in Greater Boston( compared to alums that graduated from the State college system of Umass- Amherst, Umass- Boston, Umass- Lowell, and 7 other Massacusetts state colleges.) As a result, BC will have more Massachusetts residents at a BC- Umass game than a BC- Uconn game. So the fact that a BC- Umass game has more interest in Greater Boston than a BC- Uconn football game would is being shared now on here as seen thru a Massachuetts prism. Again, I DO understand the Connecticut prism lens here, and it makes perfect sense to me as to why this is seemingly such a big deal for people of Connecticut, or who are Uconn grads. I get that. I do. I just wanted to share however how this is looked at thru most Massachusetts casual sports fans prisims and who are not connected to BC in any way as alums there.

I disagree. I live outside of Boston and have ties to BC and UConn. BC v UMass does not register; people up here will watch BC v UConn.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

BC will play Umass most years. Thats seems to be enough local attraction for college football fans in the state of Massachusetts from my observation.

UMass (Amherst) is in Massachusetts? I wonder how many folks on Beacon Hill know that?

 

[DarthGrumpy]

There is a pecking order in college football. ND looks upon BC ,the way BC looks upon Uconn,, and Uconn looks upon Umass, the way Umass looks upon Holy Cross. It may not be fair, but its the reality of how football programs and its fan bases see themselves.

Ditto for the relationship between Rutgers & Penn St as there are a lot of Jersey HS grads who to to Penn St. just as a lot of CT HS grads go to BC. Penn St. is the established program. Rutgers likes to think of themselves as the up and comer. Both schools carry weight in NYC. Penn St could have felt threatened by this; but, instead they voted to allow Rutgers to join the B1G. On the flip side, BC did feel threatened by UConn and blackballed us using the lawsuit as an excuse. The lawsuit was foolish; but, had little to do with BC's actions. After all, if it was all about the lawsuit, why wasn't Pitt blackballed, too?

 

[DarthGrumpy]

BC consistently outdraws Uconn YOY (even with Uconns aggressive attendance records, see SMU 2015) so the attendance point you keep harping on doesn't really make sense. Also, the Uconn game of the millennium (vs Michigan) wouldn't even have been close to a sellout without all he maize in the crowd

In 2014, BC drew 34,300 while UConn drew 27,460. Considering how poor UConn's on-field product was in 2014 and the lack of any marquee games (unlike Michigan in 2013) whereas BC did get USC at home, not as big of a difference as it should have been.

 

[CL82]

http://www.vindy.com/news/2003/oct/17/acc-expansion-remaining-big-east-schools-will-sue/?print

Did you read your own link?

Connecticut, Rutgers, Pittsburgh and West Virginia already are suing Miami.
....

"We just got off a conference call," Blumenthal said early Monday evening. "All the presidents have authorized this lawsuit."

 

[Samoo]

In 2014, BC drew 34,300 while UConn drew 27,460. Considering how poor UConn's on-field product was in 2014 and the lack of any marquee games (unlike Michigan in 2013) whereas BC did get USC at home, not as big of a difference as it should have been.

Given the product on the field, the home schedule, and the "history" that BC wraps itself in, this has to be down right embarrassing for them. Switch places and UCONN would average 40,000 while BC would be lucky to break 20,000. Which is precisely why they will continue to do all they can to keep UCONN out of the picture. Can't see them playing us when they are running this scared.