Tremont Waters

[intlzncster]

As one of the more vocal pollyannas on this board, I don't think anybody will be making excuses if we are poor in 2017/18 and 2018/19, and have a subpar recruiting class as well.

Most feel like the leash is 22 months long, at best, at this point. The chicken littles, meanwhile, seem to think that 9 months would be enough.

Plenty of folks would fire Ollie immediately if they were given the gavel.

And again, a bunch more kids might leave. Would be a total program reboot.

 

[intlzncster]

Part of the problem is the staff continually getting blindsided by things that are obvious to everyone else. Nothing about the defections should have been "unexpected"

Really? Even the other players on the team were surprised at some of the defections.

I don't disagree that this staff has been blindsided by stuff though.

 

[intlzncster]

So what I've heard from two local reporters is that there is a power struggle between the Old Guard and the new guard. Ollie and Calhoun. The father and son relationship is over . Calhoun is almost never on campus anymore and is really unhappy with the way things are shaking out . Everything that took place with Miller made it 3 times worse. There's also the issue with the new ad all over Ollie and expecting quick turnaround from last season.

Does JC still have his advisory position at the University? Does anyone know how he gets on with the new AD?

 

[intlzncster]

Everyone wanting Ollie out.be careful what you wish for. If kids don't wanna come here I would think it won't be a destination for a top coach either.
When they replace him with a Tubby Smith or someone like that then I guess you guys will be happy. You guys are acting like where gonna get some kick ass replacement and I just don't see it.

Basically, you'd have to hit on a hungry, only mildly proven, young gun.

 

[Stainmaster]

Basically, you'd have to hit on a hungry, only mildly proven, young gun.

And those guys will place situations where it's easier to win and be successful over us.

 

[intlzncster]

to put it kindly, he's been indulging his personal life at the expense of his professional life and it has caught up to him in terms of his reputation within the sport and his relationship to his mentor and his bosses

Is this translation for 'not grinding hard enough'? ie putting in 8 hour days instead of 12, in order to be with family or something?

 

[intlzncster]

There's a good chance everything is beyond fixing for this staff.

Or not. We don't know yet. Half this staff is less than a year old.

 

[JMick]

Is this translation for 'not grinding hard enough'? ie putting in 8 hour days instead of 12, in order to be with family or something?

Or something...

 

[Hugo]

Everyone wanting Ollie out.be careful what you wish for. If kids don't wanna come here I would think it won't be a destination for a top coach either.
When they replace him with a Tubby Smith or someone like that then I guess you guys will be happy. You guys are acting like where gonna get some kick ass replacement and I just don't see it.

You won't know who is out there and available until you actually look. Personally, I wouldn't expect to land a Tubby Smith or any other elite coach. However, there are probably a number of good assistant coaches with experience at power programs who would take this as an opportunity to step up to be a head coach at a nationally respected and recognized program with the opportunity to return it to a prominent place in CBB.

 

[KingAG]

Or something...

And you know this how?

 

[JMick]

And you know this how?

It's not exactly a secret.

 

[intlzncster]

Or something...

OK, PM the news. So I can stop asking cryptic questions that will inevitably go unanswered on a public forum.

 

[KingAG]

It's not exactly a secret.

Its is to me lol. PM?

 

[JMick]

Its is to me lol. PM?

No.

 

[KingAG]

No.

So stop posting about it. Its unfair to accuse someone of "something".

 

[JMick]

So stop posting about it. Its unfair to accuse someone of "something".

No, I just won't PM you.

 

[KingAG]

No, I just won't PM you.

I couldnt care less about you PMng me lol. I just wanted to see if you were full of it, and you confirmed

 

[UC313]

IMO the fans, coaches and players need to sack up, come out swinging and get our backs off the wall. Take this summer and spend every waking moment together. Embrace each other and this clusterphux of situation. We need to be mid february in new england pissed off. Dunk in someone face, block a shot into the third row and tell em about it. Im done feeling bad about ourselves. Im done arguing about who or why. I dont give a damn. Lets go to war with the warriors we got. Ill fight for you and you fight for me. Ride or die time.

 

[intlzncster]

You won't know who is out there and available until you actually look. Personally, I wouldn't expect to land a Tubby Smith or any other elite coach. However, there are probably a number of good assistant coaches with experience at power programs who would take this as an opportunity to step up to be a head coach at a nationally respected and recognized program with the opportunity to return it to a prominent place in CBB.

We need more than an assistant. We need a proven coach, even if from the lesser D1 schools.

 

[uconnever]

You won't know who is out there and available until you actually look. Personally, I wouldn't expect to land a Tubby Smith or any other elite coach. However, there are probably a number of good assistant coaches with experience at power programs who would take this as an opportunity to step up to be a head coach at a nationally respected and recognized program with the opportunity to return it to a prominent place in CBB.

I don't consider Tubby Smith elite, to me he's a retread downgrade. Rather keep Ollie and hope for the best. My point is that I don't believe there anything immediately better ready to come. I'd rather give Ollie more time until that next hot coach stands up, then strike if things are still in the toilet.

 

[8893]

IMO the fans, coaches and players need to sack up, come out swinging and get our backs off the wall. Take this summer and spend every waking moment together. Embrace each other and this clusterphux of situation. We need to be mid february in new england pissed off. Dunk in someone face, block a shot into the third row and tell em about it. Im done feeling bad about ourselves. Im done arguing about who or why. I dont give a damn. Lets go to war with the warriors we got. Ill fight for you and you fight for me. Ride or die time.

I love this.

 

[JMick]

I couldnt care less about you PMng me lol. I just wanted to see if you were full of it, and you confirmed

No, I just don't like you

 

[KingAG]

No, I just don't like you

You dont know me, and its a msg board you think i give a damn if some random dude who has no clue who i am likes me? Dude grow up

 

[imno1]

First have some compassion for KO. He has "bled blue" and has been a great ambassador for the University. So I'm rooting for him to turn it around. Next season will seal his fate. If the team looks sloppy and unprepared recruits will look elsewhere and KO won't be able to recover. If we surprise especially early in the season I think we gets some buzz and it will lead to some commitments. The worst case scenario is we have a mediocre season but Larrier and Adams play well enough to enter the draft. Because of this uncertainty I haven't followed any of the 2018 and beyond recruiting threads. Plus I'm a casual fan.

Things look dark now but I have faith in Ollie. I'm no Pollyanna but I feel Coach deserves my support.

 

[chickenhead]

We need more than an assistant. We need a proven coach, even if from the lesser D1 schools.

The Norm Roberts experiment at SJU was a disaster.

 

[intlzncster]

The Norm Roberts experiment at SJU was a disaster.

I'm thinking like a Mike White at Florida scenario. That would be fantastic.

 

[Paesano]

Everyone wanting Ollie out.be careful what you wish for. If kids don't wanna come here I would think it won't be a destination for a top coach either.
When they replace him with a Tubby Smith or someone like that then I guess you guys will be happy. You guys are acting like where gonna get some kick ass replacement and I just don't see it.

And who saw Calhoun becoming Calhoun when we hired him? And, yet, there he was.

UConn has proven it is a place where a coach can win and become a hall of famer. UConn has a rabid and large fan base that has proven it will support a winner. Storrs is a great place to raise a family and call home.

We can, and we have, attracted great young and young-ish coaches. We can do it again.

 

[UCweCONN]

IMO the fans, coaches and players need to sack up, come out swinging and get our backs off the wall. Take this summer and spend every waking moment together. Embrace each other and this clusterphux of situation. We need to be mid february in new england pissed off. Dunk in someone face, block a shot into the third row and tell em about it. Im done feeling bad about ourselves. Im done arguing about who or why. I dont give a damn. Lets go to war with the warriors we got. Ill fight for you and you fight for me. Ride or die time.

You need depth to come out swinging. I team can make a run for a while but eventually runs out of gas.

 

[imno1]

You need depth to come out swinging. I team can make a run for a while but eventually runs out of gas.

We'll have enough depth if all are healthy. Depth is a bit overrated in the college game. Now I don't suggest running with just 5 or 6 but 8 or 9 is plenty.

 

[superjohn]

We'll have enough depth if all are healthy. Depth is a bit overrated in the college game. Now I don't suggest running with just 5 or 6 but 8 or 9 is plenty.

We don't run anymore when we have really talented teams with depth. Now we are going to run all the time with an undermanned roster? It's silly season around here.