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husky429 said:
He's kind of like shabazz, in that he CAN jump and dunk, but not with a ton of authority and the energy it takes for him to dunk makes it impractical in games. Tremonts athleticism is more evident in his lateral foot speed.
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Good observation - more of an ankle breaker than a dunker like Chief was.
 
Almost 67k views - don't tell me there isn't interest in UConn men's basketball
 
This guy could be a franchise changer for Uconn. We DO have really good guards with Vital Gilbert and Adams--but I think Waters reminds me so much of Shabazz(a more athletic Shabazz) and we know the story there. Napier came off the bench his first year and an incredible career finished off with a nice NBA draft pick. Even though we wouldnt be very tall--we could be quick and could play as many as 4 guards at once. I just feel like getting Tremont would reinvigorate the team/fans and reshape the position of our franchise. This is an important period--we need to execute here--and then KEEP the guys together for 2-3 years. I think we could change directions very quickly.
 
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superjohn said:
I wouldn't put much stock in a vertical measurement. Shabazz is taller, has a longer wingspan and his vertical was only a couple inches less than Boat's at the combine. On paper you would think Bazz would be the same type of dunker as Boat which we all know couldn't be further from the truth. Boat has elite bounce and dunking ability, Waters isn't Boat in this area but he certainly has more bounce and throws it down better than Bazz ever did.
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This may be a hand size issue. When I was in peak shape (sadly when I was like 16) I could dunk a volleyball but couldn't dunk a basketball because I couldn't palm it and if I tried with two hands it cut down on my reach.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
This may be a hand size issue. When I was in peak shape (sadly when I was like 16) I could dunk a volleyball but couldn't dunk a basketball because I couldn't palm it and if I tried with two hands it cut down on my reach.
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LOL. What could go wrong by bringing up hand size? What is someone going to do -- talk about something other than Tremont Waters in this thread?
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
This may be a hand size issue. When I was in peak shape (sadly when I was like 16) I could dunk a volleyball but couldn't dunk a basketball because I couldn't palm it and if I tried with two hands it cut down on my reach.
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businesslawyer said:
LOL. What could go wrong by bringing up hand size? What is someone going to do -- talk about something other than Tremont Waters in this thread?
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But, how tall is he without shoes on?
 
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Question, If he played for us he couldn't be on the floor at the same time as Gilbert could he? Gilbert is 5'10" at most right?
 
jibsey said:
Question, If he played for us he couldn't be on the floor at the same time as Gilbert could he? Gilbert is 5'10" at most right?
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In all reality we had Boat and Bazz at 5'10 (maybe) and 5'11 respectively. These guys are even smaller but they can be quite the pains on defense for others guards too, so while you wouldn't want it to be like that all too often it could work I think.
 
mauconnfan said:
In all reality we had Boat and Bazz at 5'10 (maybe) and 5'11 respectively. These guys are even smaller but they can be quite the pains on defense for others guards too, so while you wouldn't want it to be like that all too often it could work I think.
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Remember when the U.K. backcourt was all like 6'8" and couldn't score on our dudes?
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
Remember when the U.K. backcourt was all like 6'8" and couldn't score on our dudes?
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2011: Starting Guards for Kentucky were Brandon Knight (6'3"), DeAndre Liggins (6'6"), and Doron Lamb (6'4") coming off the bench. Versus Kemba 6'1"/Shabazz 6'1"/Lamb 6'5", Kentucky guards went a combined 12-40 (30%) from the field with 7 assists to 6 turnovers (the UConn trio went 12-30 from the field, 40%, w/ 15 assists and 9 turnovers).

2014: Starting Guards for Kentucky were Aaron Harrison (6'6"), Andrew Harrison (6'6"), and James Young (6'6"). Versus Shabazz 6'1"/Boatright 5'11"/Kromah 6'6"/T-Sam 6'3", Kentucky Guards went a combined 11-29 (38%) from the field with 5 assists and 10 turnovers (if that isn't the definition of disruptive). The UConn guards went 15-27 (55%) from the field with 8 assists and 9 turnovers.
 
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Storrs South said:
2011: Starting Guards for Kentucky were Brandon Knight (6'3"), DeAndre Liggins (6'6"), and Doron Lamb (6'4") coming off the bench. Versus Kemba 6'1"/Shabazz 6'1"/Lamb 6'5", Kentucky guards went a combined 12-40 (30%) from the field with 7 assists to 6 turnovers (the UConn trio went 12-30 from the field, 40%, w/ 15 assists and 9 turnovers).

2014: Starting Guards for Kentucky were Aaron Harrison (6'6"), Andrew Harrison (6'6"), and James Young (6'6"). Versus Shabazz 6'1"/Boatright 5'11"/Kromah 6'6"/T-Sam 6'3", Kentucky Guards went a combined 11-29 (38%) from the field with 5 assists and 10 turnovers (if that isn't the definition of disruptive). The UConn guards went 15-27 (55%) from the field with 8 assists and 9 turnovers.
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Just to play devil's advocate.

In this scenario we are comparing arguably two of Calipari's worst and most underperforming squads in his tenure at UK, while simultaneously comparing them to two of our two best teams by far under the same time span (which many call outliers relative to performance before and after). At worst Cal's teams have made it to the final four since the 2010's, at worst our teams were at home in March unfortunately some years.
 
BUConn10 said:
Just to play devil's advocate.

In this scenario we are comparing arguably two of Calipari's worst and most underperforming squads in his tenure at UK, while simultaneously comparing them to two of our two best teams by far under the same time span (which many call outliers relative to performance before and after). At worst Cal's teams have made it to the final four since the 2010's, at worst our teams were at home in March unfortunately some years.
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Man this place has become depressing.......even when the conversation is slightly positive, there has to be at least one wet blanket.

It's not really "playing devil's advocate" when it runs in line with your schtick.
 
mauconnfan said:
At worst Cal's teams have made it to the final four since the 2010's, at worst our teams were at home in March unfortunately some years.

Really I am confused as to what this has to do with the size of our guards vs theirs?:eek:
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I don't know why you can't follow a simple syllogism:
MAJOR PREMISE: If Tremont Waters comes, we'll be playing two 5'10" guards side by side at least 20 minutes per game.
MINOR PREMISE: ????
CONCLUSION: Kentucky is likely to make the final four.
 
pj said:
I don't know why you can't follow a simple syllogism:
MAJOR PREMISE: If Tremont Waters comes, we'll be playing two 5'10" guards side by side at least 20 minutes per game.
MINOR PREMISE: ????
CONCLUSION: Kentucky is likely to make the final four.
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Crap sorry it was all right in front of me thanks pj, my bad!
 
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Waters is clearly waiting on Tre Duval to make his announcement before he commits anywhere. Let's hope Trevon picks Duke so we can get Waters and not have Duke big boy us like they did to Cuse with Tucker.

PS: Big difference between Vance and Tremont is that Waters can actually defend his position.
 
BUConn10 said:
Just to play devil's advocate.

In this scenario we are comparing arguably two of Calipari's worst and most underperforming squads in his tenure at UK, while simultaneously comparing them to two of our two best teams by far under the same time span (which many call outliers relative to performance before and after). At worst Cal's teams have made it to the final four since the 2010's, at worst our teams were at home in March unfortunately some years.
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Well, perhaps you noticed that the comparison is between the two sets of backcourts that actually played against each other. In the same game. On the same night.

Or, maybe you didn't.
 
Huskymagic said:
Waters is clearly waiting on Tre Duval to make his announcement before he commits anywhere. Let's hope Trevon picks Duke so we can get Waters and not have Duke big boy us like they did to Cuse with Tucker.

PS: Big difference between Vance and Tremont is that Waters can actually defend his position.
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Oh boy...
 
Huskymagic said:
Waters is clearly waiting on Tre Duval to make his announcement before he commits anywhere. Let's hope Trevon picks Duke so we can get Waters and not have Duke big boy us like they did to Cuse with Tucker.

PS: Big difference between Vance and Tremont is that Waters can actually defend his position.
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Missed you magic. So then I guess if we get Tremont he's going to be guarding 3's and 4's based on your Vance comparison? Damn the little guy can defend.
 
Sorry, I don't want a player that sees UConn as a backup option. If UConn is truly interested, I feel like there is much more to this recruitment that we don't know because this whole situation would be going against KO's word about his new recruiting strategy.
 
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