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Chief00 said:
Strangely, one of the kids on the team said he was still considering Georgetown. Don't know what to think of that. Grain of salt I guess.
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Must be a diversion to get us fans more excited, and obviously cover all options for your insider info
 
nychuskyfan said:
Vital had a very solid freshman season and got much better as the season went on.

Player A: FG%: 39.6%, 3P: 39%, 1.6 A/To
Player B: FG%: 38.0%, 3P: 28%, 2.0 A/To

Player A is Vital and Player B is JA. I know JA was playing hurt, but it was not stretch to say that Vital outplayed Adams in conference play and you say with no evidence that he "provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns". Well, you "provide zero in the field of" intelligent posts. We are all frustrated with this offseason but it's ironic that the one who calls everyone else out for acting like a high school girl...is the one complaining and venting like a spoiled child without any facts.
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I'm neither praising nor bashing Vital. But it is misleading to compare offensive stats for the offensive player who draws the double team, and the offensive player who is left open when the double team is drawn. When we won the championship in '14 Giffey was over 45% in 3 point shooting most of the year. That didn't necessarily mean he was a better shooter than Bazz or Boat. They took different types of shots.
 
Ant One said:
I must have watched a different season than you guys did... Vital provides zero in the field of legitimate offensive returns, he adds some intangibles but that's about it. I think you are romanticizing him since he's the only one who stayed.

Having said that. You aren't seeing my point as far as Waters. Why would he come? I just don't see it happening. You can get your hopes up, but mine are low as can be. Good luck with all that. This place has gone down the tubes ever since November, what a bunch of grown men acting like high school girls.
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businesslawyer said:
I'm neither praising nor bashing Vital. But it is misleading to compare offensive stats for the offensive player who draws the double team, and the offensive player who is left open when the double team is drawn. When we won the championship in '14 Giffey was over 45% in 3 point shooting most of the year. That didn't necessarily mean he was a better shooter than Bazz or Boat. They took different types of shots.
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I dont think he was implying CV was better than Jalen. He was just using those numbers to combat the idea that CV provided little value on offense
 
The "recruiting clock" that these kids operate under mystifies me. As a top 40 player, this kid would be a great get. I am trying to understand the decision-making process he is going through. I know he wants minutes. All kids of that ranking want minutes. Beyond that, is he hoping that one of the big boys come through with a late offer? To that end, is Duke, Kansas, or some other major conference school interested to the point of maybe taking him as a contingency? Is he actually still considering Georgetown? I don't know how long a kid like this waits or what makes him wait.
 
Blaneylover said:
The "recruiting clock" that these kids operate under mystifies me. As a top 40 player, this kid would be a great get. I am trying to understand the decision-making process he is going through. I know he wants minutes. All kids of that ranking want minutes. Beyond that, is he hoping that one of the big boys come through with a late offer? To that end, is Duke, Kansas, or some other major conference school interested to the point of maybe taking him as a contingency? Is he actually still considering Georgetown? I don't know how long a kid like this waits or what makes him wait.
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I'm right there with you. I understand wanting to find the best fit. I get that. At this point, he's made his visits. Heard all the pitches. How long do you really need to decide? I guess I'm just wired differently. I'd want to make up my mind ASAP so I can focus on my freshman yr.
 
KembaStepback said:
I'm right there with you. I understand wanting to find the best fit. I get that. At this point, he's made his visits. Heard all the pitches. How long do you really need to decide? I guess I'm just wired differently. I'd want to make up my mind ASAP so I can focus on my freshman yr.
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Exactly. He knows who UCONN has on its roster. He knows his own abilities. I would assume that HCKO has explained to him his vision of next year's team and how he fits into what they are trying to accomplish. I tend to think he is waiting for an opportunity that may not come.
 
Blaneylover said:
Exactly. He knows who UConn has on its roster. He knows his own abilities. I would assume that HCKO has explained to him his vision of next year's team and how he fits into what they are trying to accomplish. I tend to think he is waiting for an opportunity that may not come.
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My pure guess is that he got released from Georgetown thinking a slot at an elite (KU/Duke/UK) school might open up due to transfers/draft entries. This is a kid who had a Kentucky hat on the table when he announced he was going to Georgetown. I still don't know if Kentucky even offered, I don't follow recruiting until forced to this spring. So he's running out the clock with a guaranteed place to land at Gtown or UConn, but still hoping for better. Either that, or no one but Western Kentucky will promise him a starter's job.
 
This is what I don't understand of wanting to be promised a starter's job. So if you get the promise, and there are kids sitting on the bench at the opening tip who are better than you, then what Einstein? You start and lose minutes as the season progresses? If you're at WKU, and you have to obtain a promise to start to know you'll be a starter, what does that say about your future pro-career? How do you look at your teammates if you're starting over someone better than you because of a promise?

I get not wanting to go to a school loaded with better players at your position. I don't get asking a coach whether you're going to start.
 
businesslawyer said:
How do you look at your teammates if you're starting over someone better than you because of a promise?
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If you are Waters and you go to WKU, you go there because you want to guarantee that there is no one better than you on the team.
 
8893 said:
If you are Waters and you go to WKU, you go there because you want to guarantee that there is no one better than you on the team.
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If you have to go to WKY go guarantee that there is no one better than you on the team, than you can't rationally believe you're going to be paid to play basketball down the road.
 
There's no time pressure on the kid - if he decides today, tomorrow or in a month, what's the difference?

This will shock the world, but there are likely millions of kids who have seen the brochures, taken the visits and read the reviews and they still haven't decided which college they will attend in September.
 
AntG168 said:
If he was going to G'Town i feel like he's be there already.
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I haven't made a letter change - just providing unvarnished contrary info. That's why you have Chief processing the algorithm and coming out with a rating designed for the casual fan - which UConn needs to keep engaged. In recruiting there is often a lot of noise. Here we have two sources - Dad and kid talking to people.
 
They have a top 10 5* player coming in Mitchell Robinson

Maybe they want to play together. Can certainly have a good season. But not sure how that makes him a better player vs. playing with JA, AG and CV everyday

But who knows

I'd rather hear we can somehow get back involved with Bamba given the open front court


8893 said:
If you are Waters and you go to WKU, you go there because you want to guarantee that there is no one better than you on the team.
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JSM1970 said:
They have a top 10 5* player coming in Mitchell Robinson

Maybe they want to play together. Can certainly have a good season. But not sure how that makes him a better player vs. playing with JA, AG and CV everyday

But who knows

I'd rather hear we can somehow get back involved with Bamba given the open front court
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And I think we should have taken DeAndre Ayton over Cobb.
 
Fishy said:
There's no time pressure on the kid - if he decides today, tomorrow or in a month, what's the difference?

This will shock the world, but there are likely millions of kids who have seen the brochures, taken the visits and read the reviews and they still haven't decided which college they will attend in September.
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Well at the very least they would have had to put a $500 deposit down by April 30 on whatever schools they were still deciding on. Should we ask Waters for a $500 deposit?
 
Fishy said:
There's no time pressure on the kid - if he decides today, tomorrow or in a month, what's the difference?

This will shock the world, but there are likely millions of kids who have seen the brochures, taken the visits and read the reviews and they still haven't decided which college they will attend in September.
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I get that he isn't under the gun here. My post was just trying to get a handle on what type of issues he is sorting through while deciding. My feeling is that he is waiting to see if any more options materialize. He may have to "settle" for a 4 time National Champion. I can live with that. I am pretty sure I wasn't my wife's first choice.
 
So with high school almost ending...when is the earliest a player can get on campus and start working with teammates? Coaches?
 
KembaStepback said:
So with high school almost ending...when is the earliest a player can get on campus and start working with teammates? Coaches?
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As soon as they're enrolled in classes. Last summer the men had their guys up for Summer Session 1, starting June 1
 
Blaneylover said:
I get that he isn't under the gun here. My post was just trying to get a handle on what type of issues he is sorting through while deciding. My feeling is that he is waiting to see if any more options materialize. He may have to "settle" for a 4 time National Champion. I can live with that. I am pretty sure I wasn't my wife's first choice.
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Who knows? He's a teenager.

We don't know what the schools are telling him either. For all we know, he's being strung along himself.
 
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