Transfer thread

[stamfordhusky]

We're officially guilty of thread drift at this point, but briefly:

Where is it written that every conference has to be classified as either "power five" or "mid-major"?

The term "mid-major" has no official meaning or definition. It's just one of those arbitrary labels propagated for convenience (or for PR purposes) by the media. With that caveat, the Big East and AAC are generally not classified as "mid-majors" by sports media outlets. There's a long and tedious history behind it all, but that's the takeaway.

Yes, I don't think I've ever seen the Big East or AAC called a mid-major, and they certainly shouldn't be. Their expenditures for basketball are multiples of a true mid-major.

 

[hoophuskee]

what then is the Big East if not a mid-major?

Better than a mid-Major.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

The Big East is more than a mid-major, true. But not Power 5. It is true that these are arbitrary categories, but - from a sheer financial point of view (at least pre-current events) - the playing fields are different for the schools so-called Power 5 and the schools not.

Mid-major is a sneaky term, how do you qualify "mid-major" from not even that notable? The WAC isn't the Big West which isn't the WCC. Which isn't the Mountain West. In the east, how could you compare the MAAC or MEAC with the A10 or CAA?

The American is a whole different thing. It is one of the "Group of Five" football conferences. But without UConn, if you want to say it isn't a mid-major, that's fine - but how many teams do you anticipate them getting in the tourney (men's, women's).

 

[j66kicker]

The Big East is more than a mid-major, true. But not Power 5. It is true that these are arbitrary categories, but - from a sheer financial point of view (at least pre-current events) - the playing fields are different for the schools so-called Power 5 and the schools not.

Mid-major is a sneaky term, how do you qualify "mid-major" from not even that notable? The WAC isn't the Big West which isn't the WCC. Which isn't the Mountain West. In the east, how could you compare the MAAC or MEAC with the A10 or CAA?

The American is a whole different thing. It is one of the "Group of Five" football conferences. But without UConn, if you want to say it isn't a mid-major, that's fine - but how many teams do you anticipate them getting in the tourney (men's, women's).

"Mid major" may be arbitrary, but "Power 5" isn't. SEC, B1G, Big 12, PAC 12 and ACC are the 5 conferences who threatened to leave the NCAA if they didn't get their way (control their own football revenue rather than have it administered through the NCAA). They make up half of the 10 "FBS" conferences (Football Bowl Subdivision). The other 5 FBS conferences are the "Group of Five", which includes the Mountain West. FBS also includes a few independents like ND & Army.

This is all about football and only football. Mid major, high major, etc., are most often used for men's basketball, are not so clearly defined, and can overlap with P5 and G5 football schools. But being a P5 football school is hugely impactful on the revenue available to support basketball, especially women's basketball.

 

[triaddukefan]

The Big East is more than a mid-major, true. But not Power 5. It is true that these are arbitrary categories, but - from a sheer financial point of view (at least pre-current events) - the playing fields are different for the schools so-called Power 5 and the schools not.

Mid-major is a sneaky term, how do you qualify "mid-major" from not even that notable? The WAC isn't the Big West which isn't the WCC. Which isn't the Mountain West. In the east, how could you compare the MAAC or MEAC with the A10 or CAA?

The American is a whole different thing. It is one of the "Group of Five" football conferences. But without UConn, if you want to say it isn't a mid-major, that's fine - but how many teams do you anticipate them getting in the tourney (men's, women's).

hey now

 

[HopJim]

hey now View attachment 52893
Rightly or wrongly, there has been a list and ranking of "mid majors" for many years.

Miss. St. hires ODU's McCray-Penson as coach

Nikki McCray-Penson will replace Vic Schaefer as women's basketball coach at Mississippi State, the school announced Saturday.

www.espn.com

 

[DaBball]

For those who don’t follow the general board, Shakira Austin signed w/ Ole Miss.

 

[DeeHusky]

For those who don’t follow the general board, Shakira Austin signed w/ Ole Miss.

I was just literally about to ask. WTH???!!

 

[DeeHusky]

I guess Yolette was the only one who promised Austin that she’d be a guard

 

[militarydog]

I guess Yolette was the only one who promised Austin that she’d be a guard

In Coach Yo’s defense she is taking the chances she needs to take to get players. She also signed top twenty player Madison Scott who none of the top programs would touch due to her attitude.

 

[Mdoggie]

Ole Miss is horrible. Austin is gonna play all positions when she wants lol

 

[JordyG]

I was just literally about to ask. WTH???!!

Some feel it's better to be a big fish in a small pond. I don't know how this helps her advance her game, beyond playing point forward on a mediocre team. The team was 7-23 last year. How does averaging 16 points on a 10-20 team help her draft status?

 

[Plebe]

Some feel it's better to be a big fish in a small pond. I don't know how this helps her advance her game, beyond playing point forward on a mediocre team. The team was 7-23 last year. How does averaging 16 points on a 10-20 team help her draft status?

Mediocre is a pretty generous descriptor. Ole Miss was probably the first "power conference" team to ever finish outside the top 300 of the RPI.

 

[Mdoggie]

Austin headed to basketball obscurity. We won’t hear much from or about her until 2 or 3 years from now in the second round of the draft. JMO

 

[MilfordHusky]

In Coach Yo’s defense she is taking the chances she needs to take to get players. She also signed top twenty player Madison Scott who none of the top programs would touch due to her attitude.

Madison and Shakira are both from the same general area and probably know each other.

 

[eebmg]

Some feel it's better to be a big fish in a small pond. I don't know how this helps her advance her game, beyond playing point forward on a mediocre team. The team was 7-23 last year. How does averaging 16 points on a 10-20 team help her draft status?

but a big fish in a desert.

 

[JordyG]

Mediocre is a pretty generous descriptor. Ole Miss was probably the first "power conference" team to ever finish outside the top 300 of the RPI.

Austin is almost good enough to make them mediocre. That is, if everything falls perfectly into place.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Austin headed to basketball obscurity. We won’t hear much from or about her until 2 or 3 years from now in the second round of the draft. JMO

If she has to sit out a year after transferring, she can grad transfer her last year back to a contender.

 

[mbr33ct]

In Coach Yo’s defense she is taking the chances she needs to take to get players. She also signed top twenty player Madison Scott who none of the top programs would touch due to her attitude.

A page right out of CViv's playbook?

 

[DEpup]

So it looks like we are getting zero out of this transfer group unless someone new gets in. So much for Geno telling Rebecca that they were talking to some kids and we should know in a couple weeks..... Looks like the talking didn't go well.

 

[lebronfan23]

A lot of hate about Austin going to Ole Miss

 

[oldude]

A lot of hate about Austin going to Ole Miss

I don’t know that it’s hate. But there certainly is a good amount of incredulity when one of the top players in her class transfers from an elite program like MD, where she had been successful to one of the worst D1 programs in the country in a place where she has no geographic connection.

 

[southie]

A lot of hate about Austin going to Ole Miss

It's as if she knew . . .

 

[oldude]

It's as if she knew . . .

For those that care to look at Austin’s twitter page, there is a lengthy number of posts that are confrontational in their nature, touching on issues such as the hypocrisy of the NCAA, nondescript problems at MD and the racial makeup of coaches in the SEC vs other conferences.

Clearly, this young lady has a lot of issues and is searching for a place where I guess she hopes to feel safe and maybe fly below the radar. I don’t know if that will happen at MS, but for her sake, I hope she finds some level of happiness that eluded her at MD.

 

[fightinterp]

For those who don’t follow the general board, Shakira Austin signed w/ Ole Miss.

Univ of MD asst head coach Shay Robinson just went there a couple weeks ago