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Husky68 said:
So 3-9, 1-11, 2-10 isn't collapsing?
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Technically, it's already collapsed. The 2011-2016 was the collapsing part.

I think too many people still miss that part. Comparing the momentum the program had from 2007-2010 with what Edsall actually inherited. Adding 2 wins per season wouldn't really changed the current situation much at all. You'd still have a bunch of guys who didn't like/fit the new regime.

The response was to not hire Edsall back in the first place, but that camp misses how little interest there was in the job as Diaco was leaving.
 
Husky68 said:
You mean the guys who never coached a UConn team to 2 win or 1 win seasons? How bad must you be to be worst at winning than PP and Red Pants?
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PP won with Edsall’s leftovers, Red Pants won with PP’s leftovers, Edsall loses with Red Pants leftovers. So in hierarchy Edsall<PP<Red Pants. Edsall is still working with a large core of those leftovers and grooming his own men. As much as these losses suck, he was left with a cupboard filled with garbage.
 
Husky68 said:
You mean the guys who never coached a UConn team to 2 win or 1 win seasons? How bad must you be to be worst at winning than PP and Red Pants?
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shrug

We just got to get better. Yes ... we are all absolutely flatlined on the status today.
 
Pudge said:
Who woke ZooCougar up

sheesh. I’m reading the last few weeks & thinking ... do we really need a reminder of the 2019 season. Or the 5 before.

Today is CFB fan XMAS. Dream a little. And ... btw ... we aren’t collapsing the Program.
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It would be hard to collapse any more than we already have.
 
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FroginCT said:
How many players submitted their names to the portal?
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16 names are listed on 247 transfer portal. Only Stanley Hubbard is shown as having a landing spot (James Madison).
 
noeynox said:
Holmes to Austin Peay not showing?
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Assuming the final tally with players quitting and not transferring is 18-20. I guess the silver lining is there weren't a lot of seniors to be graduating but 18 players is enormous - like losing an entire recruiting class on an already inexperienced team. I don't think there's a precedent for back to back 1-2 win seasons AND losing 18 players (yes, the portal is new, I get that).
 
FroginCT said:
Assuming the final tally with players quitting and not transferring is 18-20. I guess the silver lining is there weren't a lot of seniors to be graduating but 18 players is enormous - like losing an entire recruiting class on an already inexperienced team. I don't think there's a precedent for back to back 1-2 win seasons AND losing 18 players (yes, the portal is new, I get that).
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You do realize the vast majority were not asked back? If you are not starting as a 4th year junior, at most schools, you are not asked back for a 5th year? If some roster space was not cleared, the recruiting class might have been 10 kids, which is unacceptable given the roster talent.
 
UConnJim said:
You do realize the vast majority were not asked back? If you are not starting as a 4th year junior, at most schools, you are not asked back for a 5th year? If some roster space was not cleared, the recruiting class might have been 10 kids, which is unacceptable given the roster talent.
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I did note kids graduating. But the broader point is I guess the shock of how really bad the roster is after 2 years hasn't settled in fully. This isn't normal for a football team 3 years into a regime.

Edited to add: I'll look for some precedents.
 
noeynox said:
Holmes to Austin Peay not showing?
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FroginCT said:
I did note kids graduating. But the broader point is I guess the shock of how really bad the roster is after 2 years hasn't settled in fully. This isn't normal for a football team 3 years into a regime.

Edited to add: I'll look for some precedents.
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With the exception of the d-backs and maybe one or two lineman, these are not kids that would be contributing much next year. I'm sure Edsall told them that and if they want to go somewhere where they will see playing time, good for them.

I don't see this as a big negative.
 
uconnric said:
With the exception of the d-backs and maybe one or two lineman, these are not kids that would be contributing much next year. I'm sure Edsall told them that and if they want to go somewhere where they will see playing time, good for them.

I don't see this as a big negative.
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It's probably somewhere in the middle. Not the end of the world but the fact that this is happening after year 3 and not year 1 is not insignificant. At some point you can't come into the season expecting True freshman like Cam Ross and Jake Z to carry you and expect success. This is a "developmental program" according to the AD and coach. Travis Jones should just have wrapped up his RS Freshman season. Instead half his career is over and we have 3 wins to show for his time here. We seem rudderless at times. Being worse in year 3 than year 1 is a bad look. Hopefully year 4 shows we are working toward something.
 
noeynox said:
It's probably somewhere in the middle. Not the end of the world but the fact that this is happening after year 3 and not year 1 is not insignificant. At some point you can't come into the season expecting True freshman like Cam Ross and Jake Z to carry you and expect success. This is a "developmental program" according to the AD and coach. Travis Jones should just have wrapped up his RS Freshman season. Instead half his career is over and we have 3 wins to show for his time here. We seem rudderless at times. Being worse in year 3 than year 1 is a bad look. Hopefully year 4 shows we are working toward something.
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Edsall honored the scholarships and allowed them to play 4 years. If he pushed kids out the first couple of years as underclassmen, people would have been unhappy. At most schools, kids would have been pushed out quicker, but that hasn’t been the UConn way. The issue came to a head this year with the small number of kids that were graduating that had used up their eligibility and the large number of 4th year juniors that weren’t starting. The recruiting class would have been small and Edsall needed to bring in more talent.
 
UConnJim said:
Edsall honored the scholarships and allowed them to play 4 years. If he pushed kids out the first couple of years as underclassmen, people would have been unhappy. At most schools, kids would have been pushed out quicker, but that hasn’t been the UConn way. The issue came to a head this year with the small number of kids that were graduating that had used up their eligibility and the large number of 4th year juniors that weren’t starting. The recruiting class would have been small and Edsall needed to bring in more talent.
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Respectively, if this is the case, than Edsall made a bad decision. You don't win with a team of froshs and sophs - this isn't basketball.

You transform the roster in years 1 and 2. You don't keep kids that aren't part of the program going forward for 2 years while winning 1.5 games per year. What did that accomplish? If there's a HS coach that is advising their players to go to UConn because of how the roster transformation was delayed, then great. Otherwise, I don't understand.
 
FroginCT said:
Respectively, if this is the case, than Edsall made a bad decision. You don't win with a team of froshs and sophs - this isn't basketball.

You transform the roster in years 1 and 2. You don't keep kids that aren't part of the program going forward for 2 years while winning 1.5 games per year. What did that accomplish? If there's a HS coach that is advising their players to go to UConn because of how the roster transformation was delayed, then great. Otherwise, I don't understand.
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Remember, you are only allowed to take 25 kids per year so that limits your potential for turning over a roster. This is really the third full Edsall recruiting class as year 1 he was hired in late December. I think, you can now say that this is Edsall's roster.

Unfortunately, Diaco left Edsall with limited talent. UConn could have loaded up on JUCOs and been competitive faster, but that has not been the UConn way and it does hurt the LT roster development. SMU loaded up on transfers and JUCOs and turned around the program this year, although they are now on a treadmill of recruiting show term players that will need to be replaced frequently.
 
FroginCT said:
Respectively, if this is the case, than Edsall made a bad decision. You don't win with a team of froshs and sophs - this isn't basketball.

You transform the roster in years 1 and 2. You don't keep kids that aren't part of the program going forward for 2 years while winning 1.5 games per year. What did that accomplish? If there's a HS coach that is advising their players to go to UConn because of how the roster transformation was delayed, then great. Otherwise, I don't understand.
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What makes you think it was Edsall's decision? Even if we ignore the 25 person per year limit, I don't think the University was giving the football coach the power to run off players during their 4 years who were keeping their nose clean. That type of decision is not left to coaches at Universities who believe that athletics are a means to an end, rather than the end itself. If that's what you want, you should consider rooting for Auburn or Oklahoma or Clemson.
 
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Exit 4 said:
"In fact, head coach David Shaw encouraged his players to explore their options knowing how hard it can be to get into graduate school at Stanford."
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I wonder how true this is for UConn football players who earn their bachelor’s with a year of eligibility left.
 
businesslawyer said:
What makes you think it was Edsall's decision? Even if we ignore the 25 person per year limit, I don't think the University was giving the football coach the power to run off players during their 4 years who were keeping their nose clean. That type of decision is not left to coaches at Universities who believe that athletics are a means to an end, rather than the end itself. If that's what you want, you should consider rooting for Auburn or Oklahoma or Clemson.
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businesslawyer said:
What makes you think it was Edsall's decision? Even if we ignore the 25 person per year limit, I don't think the University was giving the football coach the power to run off players during their 4 years who were keeping their nose clean. That type of decision is not left to coaches at Universities who believe that athletics are a means to an end, rather than the end itself. If that's what you want, you should consider rooting for Auburn or Oklahoma or Alabama
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Nextmanup said:
It was the coaches deci

it was Edsalls decision on most
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Agreed. The Husky football team scored a 974 for the most recent year of statistics (APR). By comparison, the national average for Division I football teams was 964. Clemson football APR last year was 992.
 
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FroginCT said:
Agreed. The Husky football team scored a 974 for the most recent year of statistics (APR). By comparison, the national average for Division I football teams was 964. Clemson football APR last year was 992.
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APR is a sensitive subject for UConn fans. UConn doesn't have classes tailored to athletes to boost APR. Other schools do.
 
hardcorehusky said:
APR is a sensitive subject for UConn fans. UConn doesn't have classes tailored to athletes to boost APR. Other schools do.
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When the average college football fans thinks "academic integrity" they think ND, Stanford, Northwestern, etc. If UConn's setting a higher standard, the message isn't getting out.
 
FroginCT said:
When the average college football fans thinks "academic integrity" they think ND, Stanford, Northwestern, etc. If UConn's setting a higher standard, the message isn't getting out.
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UConn has been climbing the academic status bar for a while. However, football has never had the ability to bring in kids who are academically not up to par with the rest of the student population. They might not say it out loud, but it has resonated in recruiting for years. ND stunk until they loosened the academic standards.

Also, when the average football fan thinks academic integrity - they think IVY League, where there are no football scholarships - just academic and need based aid. I doubt with all the money and naming rights and pay for play stuff, people think of P5 schools as academic bastions.
 
Bezzz said:
Didn't we lose Robbie Frey because of an issue like this?
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He was concerned about his ability to get into grad-school:
www.courant.com

Running Back Robbie Frey Leaving UConn

After Jordan Todman announced he would enter the NFL draft following UConn’s loss to Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 1, it appeared rising senior Robbie Frey would be the featured back fo…
www.courant.com www.courant.com
 
FroginCT said:
When the average college football fans thinks "academic integrity" they think ND, Stanford, Northwestern, etc. If UConn's setting a higher standard, the message isn't getting out.
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O.K., I'll bite. Are you here to inform us how many ways from Sunday the schools, its decision makers and each and every athletic program suck? If so, post away but if you'd warn us so those who want to can ignore you without having to take any more time to reach that conclusion it would be greatly appreciated.

Or, if you have an overarching point to make, by all means feel free to make it.
 
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