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PradaMane said:
Personally, Im not that impressed with Traci Carter. I may be in the minority but I don't see him stepping in and being better than anyone of our guards this year aftter the productive summer they should have after being exposed.

This maybe unpopular but I really like what we have from a guard standpoint from next year. The kids know what they need to work on, I know Ollie lets them know religously and some will come back improved some won't but will come with a higher basketball IQ. If tracey does commit no chance he plays over T Sam in my eyes and if he does I would have a ton of questions for our player development department.

I am on board with getting a athletic wing with some kind of stroke.. Somewhere between 6'4-6'7, who can get lets say 10-15 minutes at the 2-3 guard. I see hamilton being a starting 3 and select 4 with the correct matchup and Facey being starting 4 and play some 5 if brimah is in foul trouble.

In no way is Mr. Carter a 'must get' in my eyes.
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He's a better ball handler than TSam, Cassell, ect.
He's not going to come here and start, but if he can just give us around 10 minutes, he'll let Adams play off of the ball more and put less pressure on TSam to be the point guard. Depth at the 1 is HUGE in college basketball.
 
RipCity said:
He's a better ball handler than TSam, Cassell, ect.
He's not going to come here and start, but if he can just give us around 10 minutes, he'll let Adams play off of the ball more and put less pressure on TSam to be the point guard. Depth at the 1 is HUGE in college basketball.
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This is true. In the last few games, Boatright has been given a lot more time playing off the ball, and it's helped his 3P FG% increase significantly.
 
mauconnfan said:
Ricky got hurt as a freshman in the Colgate game which killed us because Doron had a bad hammy vs Miss ST I believe?
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Yes, you are correct... Sorry, misread your pronoun and thought you meant KEA had Doron.
 
7774 said:
Unless, of course, he improves. Sometimes I think 90% of this board takes a mental snapshot of all our former players at their very best, and then just pretend that's what the player always was.

Every key player on last years championship team got ripped apart on this board in their younger years. During Bazz's sophomore year we were never going to accomplish anything if we were relying on him as a leader going forward. Daniels was a complete bust when he was chucking up 3's at a 28% clip and looking totally lost as a freshman. We were never going to accomplish anything if Giffey was playing more than 10 minutes a game. Boat was too selfish to fit in on a winning team.

It's the same cycle over and over.
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One of my fave threads was the (paraphrasing) "Shabazz Napier is the worst starting point guard in the Calhoun era" thread Bazz's soph year. That was a good one.
 
It shocks me how ignorant some people are when it comes to recruiting. We make our living on kids like Carter. I swear, I was pimping Bazz as our solution here long before we had any clue our staff even knew who he was. He was option #7 on our draft board so to speak and he was the best player in the country last year when all was said and done. He certainly wasn't a savior in the eyes of this board when we picked him up.

I just want to get back to bringing in diverse classes with one blue chip each year. Right now, I am far more concerned with giving Jalen Adams some competent teammates than I am with adding another Jalen Adams level talent to the class. We are trying build a team.

We need to treat these kids with some respect. I don't want recruits coming to the board and thinking our fan base is a bunch of dicks. We want every commitment we are seeking. That builds momentum. I'd be pissed to see a bunch of fat ass, middle age guys picking on me when they've never even seen me play.
 
PradaMane said:
Personally, Im not that impressed with Traci Carter. I may be in the minority but I don't see him stepping in and being better than anyone of our guards this year aftter the productive summer they should have after being exposed.

This maybe unpopular but I really like what we have from a guard standpoint from next year. The kids know what they need to work on, I know Ollie lets them know religously and some will come back improved some won't but will come with a higher basketball IQ. If tracey does commit no chance he plays over T Sam in my eyes and if he does I would have a ton of questions for our player development department.


Like your optimism re: our guards. But, you assume that they will become better and smarter players next year. Maybe yes and maybe no. Maybe some, but probably not all. There is no magic process to improve one's BB IQ. Some players have it on day one (KEA), some develop it over time and some never will. Unfortunately, I think we have some of the latter on the team and not sure they will come back after the summer with a solid BB IQ. Maybe a little higher, but not at the level we are used to.

If we can get a good PG that has that IQ, we should sign him up.
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Just as I was having visions of Carter and Adams starting in the back court like Bazz and Boat, you tell me Patino and Ollie can't judge talent.
 
pnow15 said:
Just as I was having visions of Carter and Adams starting in the back court like Bazz and Boat, you tell me Patino and Ollie can't judge talent.
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Bad argument since Pitino saw him and didn't offer. However kid had a bad game that day. He also had a summer injury that prevented him from playing and probably delayed his development before that game.

Point is there is no way to know for sure what he would do at UConn if he accepts the offer.
 
I like what Carter brings to the table and we certainly could use another recruit for 2015, I also like all the offers Ollie has made towards the 2016 class go big or go home.
 
Why did Patino invite him for a visit if he wasn't going to offer him?
. Must have a lot of excess time on his hands.
 
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pnow15 said:
Why did Patino invite him for a visit if he wasn't going to offer him?
. Must have a lot of excess time on his hands.
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Because he doesn't want to burn a bridge with a team or coach. He was being nice. I'm sure Louisville considered offering him, but the fact is they went a different direction after evaluation. If Kevin Ollie offered him a scholly, he is good enough for me. We have watched a couple youtube videos. I think KO knows a little more about him than that.
 
If his coach is Pervis Ellison, of course Louisville is bringing him down.
 
If Carter accepts KO's offer to join the same recruiting class as Jalen, it would mean either he believes he'll play over Jalen or he'll learn so much at UConn that he'll make the NBA from inside his shadow. Either would show character to me.
 
Goat said:
If Carter accepts KO's offer to join the same recruiting class as Jalen, it would mean either he believes he'll play over Jalen or he'll learn so much at UConn that he'll make the NBA from inside his shadow. Either would show character to me.
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Start at point. Jalen starts at 2.
 
There's playing time for him. We need a second ballhandler/point guard even if he doesn't start, so he'll play sizeable minutes as a frosh. If Jalen is as good as we think, Jalen may leave early. I don't think he has to worry about minutes. Starting is a matter of developing as a player, which is undoubtedly his goal, and he'll get the coaching to do it.
 
Goat said:
If Carter accepts KO's offer to join the same recruiting class as Jalen, it would mean either he believes he'll play over Jalen or he'll learn so much at UConn that he'll make the NBA from inside his shadow. Either would show character to me.
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Or it means that he has at least a passing familiarity with UConn's history of playing multiple ballhandling guards together.
 
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We've had 4-5 star recruits come in to play 20 minutes a game or less as a role player in the past (Charlie V, Marcus Williams, AJ Price, Kemba Walker, Shabazz Napier, Deandre Daniels just as examples recently). With this lineup, if you're talented, starting is definitely on the table. We need to stop using the playing time card.
 
How many frosh play more than 20 minutes a game. If Traci believes he can play at a high level and has the talent, UConn is a great situation for him. He just has to look at the results of our last three 6' (or shorter) point guards.
 
pnow15 said:
Start at point. Jalen starts at 2.
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Let's see them earn it before we pencil it in. I have no doubt they will play early and often, but Ollie will put them through the ringer in practice to make sure they deserve it.
 
pnow15 said:
Start at point. Jalen starts at 2.
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I would bet that Jalen expects to play PG as that will be his position at the next level. In no way do we want to alienate our next "great one." Traci can be the "complimentary PG" or something.
 
Dogbreath2U said:
I would bet that Jalen expects to play PG as that will be his position at the next level. In no way do we want to alienate our next "great one." Traci can be the "complimentary PG" or something.
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Ollie will figure out the rotation. If the team is better with Adams at point he will run point. If we are better Adams at the 2 and Traci at the point I'm sure that's what Ollie will do. I wouldn't worry about alienating Adams 6 months before he even steps foot on campus. One way or another Adams will get his playing time.
 
If Kentsucky could convince recruits to commit knowing they would play 20 minutes coming off the bench, why couldn't we?
 
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Gringo said:
Ollie will figure out the rotation. If the team is better with Adams at point he will run point. If we are better Adams at the 2 and Traci at the point I'm sure that's what Ollie will do. I wouldn't worry about alienating Adams 6 months before he even steps foot on campus. One way or another Adams will get his playing time.
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Once they are here (if Traci comes), then the best man plays. Until then, Jalen needs to know he is our #1 guy, IMHO.
 
Dogbreath2U said:
Once they are here (if Traci comes), then the best man plays. Until then, Jalen needs to know he is our #1 guy, IMHO.
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Why is everybody having such issues that these guys can't play in the same backcourt together. I'm sure Traci will come off the bench at the beginning of the year. JA definitely can play off the ball more as he seems to fit a taller RB mode anyhow. I think this could be a perfect backcourt for UCONN with TSAM coming off the bench.
 
3rdbass said:
Why is everybody having such issues that these guys can't play in the same backcourt together. I'm sure Traci will come off the bench at the beginning of the year. JA definitely can play off the ball more as he seems to fit a taller RB mode anyhow. I think this could be a perfect backcourt for UCONN with TSAM coming off the bench.
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I think KO should ask Geno if Mo Jefferson can transfer to the men's team.
 
I think Brimah is a 4 year guy and D-Ham a 3 year guy. If we have a sophomore Jalen, Traci Carter and Enoch, junior D-Ham, senior Brimah, Purvis, and Facey, that team is GOOD. I'm salivating thinking about it. Maybe a freshman Mario Kegler? With senior T-Sam, that team is deep in the front court and backcourt and on the wings. Obiously I'm hoping D-Ham is a 2-year lottery pick because that means he will have had a monster year next year. As long as we get Kegler, I'm fine with that. Traci Carter would be a huge pickup when it comes to backcourt depth. There is no reason we shouldn't put a lot of effort into locking him up.
 
hmm, possibly undersized PG who loves to be a hound on the ball defender... I hope he's a hoops fan and likes watching the tournament from an unbiased stance, because I can think of 2 recent national champions that were spearheaded by a barely 6' pesky defender

Not saying he will be kemba or shabazz 2.0, but I think these similarities are what might make him really like the idea of coming to UConn, and we would really like that. If he works out, great, if not, they'll find some way to get him to transfer to QU after 2 years
 
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