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Ok so we only see tapes of "highlights" and that's tough. The one thing that flies out at me about Govan is he knows where the basket is, knows how to score the basketball without needing a flying high act…..he's a basketball player and Lord knows we need 6'10/250 lb basketball players………..in a nano second sign him up!
 
Govan reminds me of Sullinger who played at OSU and now with the Celtics. Strong inside player that knows how to score. His defense needs some work but everything else about his game translates well at the next level.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Unless your Kentucky. Which is what I want to see the future program under Ollie like. I don't want the Derrick Jones type. More like those super talented players who could be special in college and go on to be a HOF in the nba. But your plan A/plan B theory depends on the position for me.
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You must be very young. The best part of the college game, for me, is to watch kids mature and develop over years in the program. Not in a million years would I want to be a one-and-done factory like Kentucky.
 
CTBasketball said:
I'll take any center inside the top 150 other than Govan.
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I completely agree with you on Govan. I've seen him play multiple times. He's nothing more than a body; unathletic and worse lazy.

At the same time I seem to be a lot higher on Sharma than most. Although I do agree that Wisconsin has a serious edge over us in his recruitment.
 
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huskiesnyc said:
That's interesting especially since Jerry Meyer just moved Govan all the way up to #15 in the 247 rankings.
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The rankings are a fantastic guideline and give us all a great starting point but don't take them as gospel. A scout can see guy on a good night and he'll skyrocket up. There's as much hype as there is evaluation. Go back and look at how many top 50 recruits don't pan out; then look at how many outside that excel.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I don't think most of us would care too much about the composition of our teams (1 and dones vs. 4-year seniors), so long as we're contenders every year.

Kentucky has shown the 1-and-done model can be successful, with the occasional hiccup.

What I don't want to turn into is a program like Wisconsin, with (traditionally) a bunch of under-talented 4-year guys who play well as a team, but never win anything. Sure, they can talk about character and commitment, but they can't talk about championships.
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I care. Personally I would be mortified if our program began to resemble that of kentucky. My absolute favorite part of being a UCONN fan is that sense of family, the sense that the players care and genuinely want to wear that jersey. Not just waiting to put on their NBA one.

If Shabazz and the past four years didn't convince you of that you're crazy.
 
Pitino loves him, Ollie loves him, scouts rave about him, but I disagree with these guys. What do they know?
 
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When I said I want our program to be like Kentucky I didn't mean the one and done model. I meant as far as having exciting college players that win and go on to be special in the NBA. John Wall is going to be the pg of a great wizard team in a few years. Demarcus Cousins is the most underrated bigs in the nba. He averages 23 and 11. Eric Bledsoe was killing it with the suns before he got hurt and Anthony Davis is a future great big. Patrick Patterson has played well for Toronto. They are going to keep putting more and more players in the league too. Their resume looks great in all areas. If we were to get players like that or keep finding these gems we have been getting to always have an experienced team. I have complete faith in the way Kevin Ollie will handle this team.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
When I said I want our program to be like Kentucky I didn't mean the one and done model. I meant as far as having exciting college players that win and go on to be special in the NBA. John Wall is going to be the pg of a great wizard team in a few years. Demarcus Cousins is the most underrated bigs in the nba. He averages 23 and 11. Eric Bledsoe was killing it with the suns before he got hurt and Anthony Davis is a future great big. Patrick Patterson has played well for Toronto. They are going to keep putting more and more players in the league too. Their resume looks great in all areas. If we were to get players like that or keep finding these gems we have been getting to always have an experienced team. I have complete faith in the way Kevin Ollie will handle this team.
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Last time I checked the NBA wasn't short on UCONN alums and UCONN wasn't short on winners. I don't need to write some long list of player's resumes because we all know them already.

Fun fact: Shabazz has more rings than your entire list combined
 
otp85 said:
Last time I checked the NBA wasn't short on UCONN alums and UCONN wasn't short on winners. I don't need to write some long list of player's resumes because we all know them already.

Fun fact: Shabazz has more rings than your entire list combined
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Understatement of the century. I'll take UConn's NBA starting five against Kentucky's NBA starting five.

UConn
PG- Kemba Walker (Shabazz)
SG- Ray Allen
SF- Caron Butler
PF- Rudy Gay
C- Andre Drummond

Kentucky
PG- John Wall (Rondo)
SG- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
SF- Tayshaun Prince
PF- DeMarcus Cousins
C- Anthony Davis
 
3for3 said:
Understatement of the century. I'll take UConn's NBA starting five against Kentucky's NBA starting five.

UConn
PG- Kemba Walker (Shabazz)
SG- Ray Allen
SF- Caron Butler
PF- Rudy Gay
C- Andre Drummond

Kentucky
PG- John Wall (Rondo)
SG- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
SF- Tayshaun Prince
PF- DeMarcus Cousins
C- Anthony Davis
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Understatment? Come on man I'm on your side hahaha.
 
otp85 said:
Understatment? Come on man I'm on your side hahaha.
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Haha true this. I was still offended by the original post. Apologies for the hyperbole.
 
3for3 said:
Understatement of the century. I'll take UConn's NBA starting five against Kentucky's NBA starting five.

UConn
PG- Kemba Walker (Shabazz)
SG- Ray Allen
SF- Caron Butler
PF- Rudy Gay
C- Andre Drummond

Kentucky
PG- John Wall (Rondo)
SG- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
SF- Tayshaun Prince
PF- DeMarcus Cousins
C- Anthony Davis
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MKG and Tayshaun Prince? So no Eric Bledsoe or Jodie Meeks? Let's try to be impartial here...
 
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This is all gonna become irrelevant pretty soon, because there will be no more one-and-dones. Silver will see to that, and he has the backing of the owners on it. It's only a matter of time. So, basically just sign the very best players that you can going forward.
 
Dynasty said:
MKG and Tayshaun Prince? So no Eric Bledsoe or Jodie Meeks? Let's try to be impartial here...
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Jodie Meeks? I get Bledsoe, but Meeks? Really? You mean the guy with the career average of a whopping 9 points and 2 assists a game? Yeah, he got to play this season on an AWFUL laker team where he and Nick Young took every shot. He's a mid-level bench player in the league while Prince is bona-fide professional for a long time and MKG is rising player for a rising team. Jodie Meeks, that's just silly.
 
dogfan96 said:
This is all gonna become irrelevant pretty soon, because there will be no more one-and-dones. Silver will see to that, and he has the backing of the owners on it. It's only a matter of time. So, basically just sign the very best players that you can going forward.
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Bring on the new age of the 2 and through.
 
otp85 said:
Jodie Meeks? I get Bledsoe, but Meeks? Really? You mean the guy with the career average of a whopping 9 points and 2 assists a game? Yeah, he got to play this season on an AWFUL laker team where he and Nick Young took every shot. He's a mid-level bench player in the league while Prince is bona-fide professional for a long time and MKG is rising player for a rising team. Jodie Meeks, that's just silly.
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Then by that logic, you wouldn't want Bledsoe because he has averaged a "whooping" 9 points/gm, 3.4 assist/gm, and 3 rebounds/gm for his career right?
 
True, Bledsoe is terrible too, thanks for catching me on that one.

In all seriousness; I gave Bledsoe credit because he is younger with more upside. Also, he just moved to a team that is planning on him being a leader and had a very good season on an over achieving team.

Meeks on the other hand, he's not growing, he is what he is. A guy who can score well enough to earn a paycheck. He is Jamal Crawford with a fraction of the talent. A black hole that hasn't seen a shot he doesn't love since he was 9 years old. He's a ball hog who is IN NO WAY a starter in the league the way Bledsoe will be for the next 10-12 years.

And if you need further proof watch the 2 play and you'll see what I mean. Or just wait til next year when Meeks goes back to the bench
 
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otp85 said:
Meeks on the other hand, he's not growing, he is what he is. A guy who can score well enough to earn a paycheck...
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He's an elite shooter, and a much more efficient player than Crawford. Pretty much any contender in the league (other than maybe San Antonio) would love to have him as their sixth man, or even a starter.

He's not an All-Star and never will be, and can't be the No. 1 or 2 option on a good team, but he's still a damn useful player.
 
Matrim55 said:
He's an elite shooter, and a much more efficient player than Crawford. Pretty much any contender in the league (other than maybe San Antonio) would love to have him as their sixth man, or even a starter.

He's not an All-Star and never will be, and can't be the No. 1 or 2 option on a good team, but he's still a damn useful player.
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He may be more efficient statistically, but he's not close to the player that Crawford is.
 
Matrim55 said:
He's an elite shooter, and a much more efficient player than Crawford. Pretty much any contender in the league (other than maybe San Antonio) would love to have him as their sixth man, or even a starter.

He's not an All-Star and never will be, and can't be the No. 1 or 2 option on a good team, but he's still a damn useful player.
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Elite shooter? Really? He's a very good shooter but elite. That's being VERY generous with the word. He shoots under 40% from 3 in his career and barely over 40% from the field. That my friend is not elite.

And the idea that any part of his game is better than Jamal Crawford's is laughable. The current 6th man of the year and soon to be 10th on the list of all time 3s made is not as good as jodie meeks, come now, that's insulting to Crawford. Not a GM in the universe that would take meeks over him
 
dogfan96 said:
He may be more efficient statistically, but he's not close to the player that Crawford is.
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He's more efficient by about a percentage point in every category. I'll chalk that up to the fact that Crawford has taken thousands more shots in the 8 extra years in the league he has on meeks.

He's also taken a TON of big shots; something meeks will never know about because when the game is on the line he's most likely on the bench.
 
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