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Tom Thibodeau is out as head coach of the Knicks (Merged threads)

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champs99and04 said:
I've always felt that if Hurley was gonna jump to the NBA he would prefer to take over more of a re-building organization where he can wipe the slate clean and steadily build his own program over time like he has everywhere else. I'm also not sure he wants to jump into the Knicks circus where he's the leading topic on First Take every other day. Brooklyn might be a better one to watch if that opens up.
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Personally I think he would have the same criteria as Jay Wright, only a franchise in the DC to Boston metroplex and no consideration for a franchise that is setup for failure.

The former leaves the Wizards, 76ers, Knicks, Nets and Celtics as the only options.

The latter removes the Wizards and Nets (for the time being), the Celts won't be changing coaches and it's debatable how attractive the 76ers job is viewed by either.

My guess is that if the Knicks are willing to go the route of hiring someone who excelled as a college coach but has zero NBA coaching experience, Jay would be well ahead of Danny.
 
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."

I serenely accept that I have no part in the Knicks coaching hire. The greater challenge is accepting that I have no ability to impact the energy of this forum beyond this single simple reminder.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think Andrea rates jobs by proximity to North NJ. LA? Terrible. The Knicks? We have reason to be concerned.

If he's gone I think they give Luke the job in Storrs.
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Leaping Luke over Kimani would be a wild move.
 
FearThePups said:
I think Danny has to worry about Queen Andrea more. She wasn’t too happy last year this time.
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Unfortunately for us,if it came down to it the Knick job would be one that she would be in favor of him taking.
 
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I don't think the Hurleys (Andrea and Dan) go now. Maybe the next time the Knicks job opens up. It's on the heels of them realizing the NBA isn't a good match for Dan, nor their lifestyle here in CT... The NBA road warriorship sort of season isn't fun.
 
huskymedic said:
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Jay Wright makes more sense. Three core players are from Villanova and were coached by him, which includes Jalen Brunson, the #1 option and alpha dog. The Knicks have have gone through at least 2 decades trying in vain to find that alpha dog that can lead this their team in the playoffs and they finally got him in Jalen Brunson-he isn't going anywhere (and they signed him to a long term contract last year).
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I don't think the Hurleys (Andrea and Dan) go now. Maybe the next time the Knicks job opens up. It's on the heels of them realizing the NBA isn't a good match for Dan, nor their lifestyle here in CT... The NBA road warriorship sort of season isn't fun.
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Hurley is an elite level coach and a great coach that is self-aware and intelligent and would realize he has to change some behavioral habits and how he runs his practices if he would make the jump to the NBA. Thibs was known for running his players into the ground in practice and Hurley's practices are even more demanding than Thibs' practices.

Jay Wright or Mike Malone are the best choices for the NY Knicks.
 
He just went through all the “should I stay or should I go drama” last summer. If it was me I wouldn’t want to go through that again so soon and probably his wife doesn’t want to deal with that stress again so soon either. The knicks also have a very viable alternative in Jay Wright who has no reason not to take the job and would be reunited with several former players. If we are going to dodge this bullet, this might actually be the perfect time for this to happen.
 
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Made no sense firing Thibodeau. He got them further than they have in decades. It almost seems he got their expectations too high. If they lost in the first round he would probably still have a job. They finished way ahead of their talent level.
 
Devland said:
Made no sense firing Thibodeau. He got them further than they have in decades. It almost seems he got their expectations too high. If they lost in the first round he would probably still have a job. They finished way ahead of their talent level.
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Knicks fans are delusional that’s why
 
Blue Blood said:
I'm still worried but early betting odds dont have hurley as a real possibility and other than the post a lot of list have 5 or 6 guys and don't include Hurley at all
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Those odds are usually fake/marketing ploys to reel consumers into their platform. Just like last year when Dan Hurley was -500 to be Lakers coach. Those odds never even existed on any platform, not for a second lol
 
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Devland said:
Made no sense firing Thibodeau. He got them further than they have in decades. It almost seems he got their expectations too high. If they lost in the first round he would probably still have a job. They finished way ahead of their talent level.
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There's a ceiling with Thibs, it's been that way since he was coaching the Bulls.

They were playing great in the playoffs last season until injuries finally did them in. I think they were very talented this season. Brunson is a star, KAT is just below that, two really good 2 way wings, Hart is a junkyard dog. He never develops a bench and it always catches up to him.
 
Devland said:
Made no sense firing Thibodeau. He got them further than they have in decades. It almost seems he got their expectations too high. If they lost in the first round he would probably still have a job. They finished way ahead of their talent level.
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And it wasn't Thibs that traded away 6 unprotected picks within the last year, including 5 for Mikal Bridges. There is a hard ceiling with Thibs, but he just got the NYK to game 6 of the ECF.
 
superjohn said:
There's a ceiling with Thibs, it's been that way since he was coaching the Bulls.

They were playing great in the playoffs last season until injuries finally did them in. I think they were very talented this season. Brunson is a star, KAT is just below that, two really good 2 way wings, Hart is a junkyard dog. He never develops a bench and it always catches up to him.
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They are too small at the 1-3, defensively they are not strong, except for Hart, but he s 6-4.
 
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drayenob said:
FWIW

ftw.usatoday.com

5 coaches who won't take the Knicks job (so stop asking!)

These are some of the best basketball minds in the world right now who will (probably!) not be taking over the Knicks.
ftw.usatoday.com ftw.usatoday.com
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Before 2023 the media (and many BYers) said he couldn't win with his schtick.

I don't think it's the wrong analysis with respect to the NBA but I don't think for a second it would factor into his consideration.
 
IndyLives said:
Why? Winning the Knicks their 1st Title in over 50 years would be his dream job & scenario. If he is offered the job, I would be very surprised if he turns it down...
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Take your UConn goggles off for a minute. Why did the Knicks, who have a two year window to win, do this now? Its quite simple. Mike Malone. He has title pedigree and local flavor. He is available now and wont be in a year. Why would the Knicks, who want to win now with two guys who are defensive liabilities, hire a college coach with no NBA experience? How does the timing make any sesne for Hurley? It doesn't and this board shouldn't be overly dramatic about it.

And why would Danny take this job right now? He has a top 5 team returning and a Knicks team who probably reached max potential. Where is the real upside? There is a greater chance he doesn't match this season, the Knicks fans revolt, and then what? The window to win is now. You dont bring in Danny in this situation.
 
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Johnnie Bryant going to get job


Hurley is set at UConn Rick pit ino would get job before Hurley
 
Devland said:
Made no sense firing Thibodeau. He got them further than they have in decades. It almost seems he got their expectations too high. If they lost in the first round he would probably still have a job. They finished way ahead of their talent level.
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They were indisputably less than the sum of their parts.

Thibs has been the same old coach for 20 years. His flaws are fatal and put a ceiling on any team he coaches.

I can't remember a Knicks regime making such a shrewd move. They know they can't go any further with Thibs. This took major stones and I'm wildly impressed that they did this.
 
I don't get the level of concern but then I again I also believe that last year's Lakers fiasco was a charade(as did alot of NBA media).
 
Rick Carlisle > Tom Thibodeau. Thats why the Knicks lost. Its also why they fired their coach.
 
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