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Time to put DePaul on a PiP

nelsonmuntz said:
Can the Big East haters just have a private chat about it rather than littering the board with their misery about our conference situation every single day?

If you guys want to root for the Big 10 or SEC so badly, then root for one of those conferences. No one is stopping you.
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you love zero-win schools in your conference, we heard you the first time.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
Why the hell would they care? A college located a a pro city can't be this bad for this long and keep fans engaged.

You are correct. Their arena on game day looks like a safe house for the Witness Protection Program.
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it looks like a beautiful facility too.
 
This might be a dumb question but did the Big East not get any additional revenue from Fox when we joined? If so, it's actually shocking to me that the league wasn't able to re-negotiate immediately after we joined. This is just a rough guess, but I have to imagine that we account for something like 25-30% of the entire media value/eyeballs of the entire league.
 
Dogdeacon said:
No, no no. Please stop with the conference bs.
Regional rivalries rise all boats. UConn was worse in the American mostly b/c of coaching but also b/c recruiting was harder and no one cared about most basketball opponents. All of the BE schools that switched to the ACC are worse now then they were in the BE b/c they've lost their regional connections. And it is stupid that they are in conferences centered eons away geographically that don't fit in so many ways.
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Open your eyes
It's all about the $
No way that the NBE rivals the ACC in revenue generated for the members.
There is no such thing as regional anymore in college sports with the big boy conferences.
Just because IF Pitt or Cuse rejoin the NBE doesn't make them better, only poorer. The NBE is a mens basketball only conference.
Do I like that UConn is in the NBE in basketball instead of the AAC- oh yeah BUT I would rather be in the ACC overall. Not the B10/SEC.
I dont agree that Cuse, BCU, Pitt and Louisville are worse because they aren't regional. They are worse (except BCU) because of crap that went on with their programs since joining the ACC. All other sports programs at those schools have gotten much better in the ACC except MBB - across the board.
 
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gtcam said:
Open your eyes
It's all about the $
No way that the NBE rivals the ACC in revenue generated for the members.
There is no such thing as regional anymore in college sports with the big boy conferences.
Just because IF Pitt or Cuse rejoin the NBE doesn't make them better, only poorer. The NBE is a mens basketball only conference.
Do I like that UConn is in the NBE in basketball instead of the AAC- oh yeah BUT I would rather be in the ACC overall. Not the B10/SEC.
I dont agree that Cuse, BCU, Pitt and Louisville are worse because they aren't regional. They are worse (except BCU) because of crap that went on with their programs since joining the ACC. All other sports programs at those schools have gotten much better in the ACC except MBB - across the board.
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Ok it was a tongue in cheek suggestion. Turns out I'm not the BE Commissioner.
Thanks for the flashback & reminder of the conference realignment history and ongoing debacle.
Onto basketball!
 
HooperScooper said:
Jim Calhoun was just a high school coach at one point. So was Dan Hurley. Either you got it or you don’t. Worth a shot.
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And it isn't like DePaul is any better than Northeastern at this point. They need somebody who can create interest.
 
Vowelguy said:
Ahem,
www.espn.com

DePaul 75-68 Louisville (Dec 9, 2023) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the DePaul Blue Demons vs. Louisville Cardinals NCAAM game, final score 75-68, from December 9, 2023 on ESPN.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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That's true, but DePaul doesn't really seem to have an exit ramp. They've been bad for a very long time and there is no end in sight. Louisville has quite a bit of recent success, and once Kenny Payne is gone they'll bounce back. They have donors willing to splash major cash for basketball NIL and they will use it and quickly rebuild their roster. DePaul doesn't have that, and I don't see them changing their fortunes any time soon.
 
Fishy said:
The Big East has to put those clowns on the clock.

They cannot let them keep going like this - they’re like 215 games under .500 in conference since they joined the Big East….and they’re actually getting worse. They can’t keep their losses under 30 most of the time. They couldn’t win the NEC.

They’re the worst major conference program in explored space, their NIL is a four-letter word that begins with ‘s’, they can’t even draw flies to their games and with Georgetown, they’re absolutely fragging the conference’s net rankings.

Give them three years, five years or whatever, but give them a deadline to improve. If they don’t, replace them with any program with a pulse and you immediately improve the Big East.
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Loyalty period! That's the problem with today's USA it doesn't exist...its a me first country..
 
ARIDE said:
Loyalty period! That's the problem with today's USA it doesn't exist...its a me first country..
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Next time a female mosquito is about to have her proboscis penetrate your skin to get some drops of blood to feed her developing babies and you swat and kill her remember that life's very existence is dependent on survival. I won't bother with how historically inaccurate your statement is.
 
ARIDE said:
Loyalty period! That's the problem with today's USA it doesn't exist...its a me first country..
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has DeadBeatDePaul been loyal to the Big East by staying on the couch all day watching TV, cleaning out the refrigerator, and refusing to go get a job?
 
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ctchamps said:
Next time a female mosquito is about to have her proboscis penetrate your skin to get some drops of blood to feed her developing babies and you swat and kill her remember that life's very existence is dependent on survival. I won't bother with how historically inaccurate your statement is.
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humans=mosquitos
 
Hey Adrien! said:
It's crazy how the city of Chicago has a Big Ten, A-10, Missouri Valley and a D1 independent team and the Big East team is objectively the worst team in the city.
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Sort of like 'Nova being 0-3 against Philadelphia opponents?
 
superjohn said:
humans=mosquitos
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Humans are equivalent to everything above the level of a virus. Viruses are stripped down versions of bacteria. They have as much programming for survival as rocks. Both viruses and rocks can be deadly but it's purely by accident. Neither is concerned what happens to them.

And yes I get that your equation is meant to be derogatory.
 
Fishy said:
The Big East has to put those clowns on the clock.

They cannot let them keep going like this - they’re like 215 games under .500 in conference since they joined the Big East….and they’re actually getting worse. They can’t keep their losses under 30 most of the time. They couldn’t win the NEC.

They’re the worst major conference program in explored space, their NIL is a four-letter word that begins with ‘s’, they can’t even draw flies to their games and with Georgetown, they’re absolutely fragging the conference’s net rankings.

Give them three years, five years or whatever, but give them a deadline to improve. If they don’t, replace them with any program with a pulse and you immediately improve the Big East.
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I say we drown ‘em in a bathtub in Cow Dick, Texas
 
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Wonder if Depaul could pry Anthony Grant with enough $$$. The league should put high pressure on them to spend whatever it takes to get a winning mid major coach. Moser is a dream, but no way he's leaving Oklahoma unless it's a Shaka style exit.
 
uconnyankee said:
Flip the sport to football and UConn could be asked same questions.
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Apples and oranges

When Ray Meyer was getting it done with the likes of Mark Aguirre(Final Four, #1 NBA Draft), UConn was YanCon Football. Aguirre by the way, hired in October as some sort of Special Asst to Athletic Director Peevy at DePaul.
 
At the risk of a throat-punch, what is a ‘PiP’?
 
JakeTheDog said:
At the risk of a throat-punch, what is a ‘PiP’?
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Gladys Knight Concert GIF by Searchlight Pictures
 
JakeTheDog said:
At the risk of a throat-punch, what is a ‘PiP’?
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"Performance Improvement Plan", HR-speak for "you're getting fired soon."

It's usually a list of things an employee must do to avoid getting fired (but should have done already) and thus unlikely to do so in a short period of time. Also, this is an attempt to avoid labor issues around being terminated without cause-- a failed PIP can introduce "cause" and thus limit any severance obligations.

In many cases, the PIP leads the employee to simply resign and avoid a termination "with cause" on his future job applications, which is what the employer wanted all along and then doesn't have to pay severance as a result. (In Putin-esque terms, instead of being thrown out the first floor window, the PIP simply opens the window and the employee jumps out first.)
 
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superjohn said:
Matas Buzelis left but that's all I know about. There certainly isn't any exodus of Chicagoland talent to New England Prep or any other Prep around the country.

There isn't the Derrick Rose, Ronnie Fields, Kevin Garnett, Benji Wilson, Jahlil Okafor, Anthony Davis at the moment but there's still a ton of talent in the area. The next biggest/star names are most likely going to be the trio of freshmen point guards- Davion Thompson, Jaxson Davis, and Devin Cleveland. They all already have Illinois offers and are doing things not many or no local freshmen have ever done.

None of what you're talking about has dried up, there seems to have been like a three to five year blip where they're not kicking out the extreme talent like usual but there's still the public school powers and Catholic school powers and still the awesome talents coming up...

The South Side has been a gang infested wasteland for decades and has been producing high D1 talent and NBA players for decades. Same goes for the West Side which is even more dangerous than the South Side.
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I stand corrected. Thought I’d heard that when the U Illinois pipeline dried up a couple of decades earlier (post Lou Henson). I guess kids don’t want to stay home for DePaul teams. Makes sense.
 
How Sway?! said:
According to Trilly, Porter Moser is the leading candidate at DePaul. Would definitely be a sign of investment
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That was leaked long ago by not Trilly. He caught wind.

Porter isn’t happy in Norman OK (who would be)? He’s a basketball guy stuck in a school that loves football. He isn’t excited about the SEC either…
 
Palatine said:
DePaul is playing out the year with an interim coach. Maybe they get their act together, make a great hire, maybe not.

I would rather have a bad team the country's third largest market than Dayton.
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I get the market argument….to an extent.

The Big East isn’t paid for markets, though. And DePaul is not a “bad team”; they’re the worst major conference program in existence and they’re getting worse. The only thing we’re getting out of our association with DePaul is a punctured conference NET which causes a loss of bids which causes a loss of money.

I don’t care who the conference replaces them with - but put them on notice that it can happen.
 
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