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Maybe Casey would be on an NFL roster too, if not for the concussions.
IIRC, Boyle was inserted as starter by Pasqualoni 14 hours before the latter was fired. Weist should have pulled the reigns on that plan and maintained Boyle's redshirt. Diaco named Cochran co-starter with Whitmer to start '14.Casey Cochran was a good college QB. There is no shame in being out performed by him. Cochran also had his growth as a player hurt by Diaco. Cochran should have come in before Boyle as he had the advantage of a redshirt and Boyle was a true frosh. Passing over Casey to play Boyle was another of Diaco's dumb moves. If CC didn't get hurt, I think that he had the ability to develop into one of UConn's better QBs.
Casey had been at UCONN 20 MONTHS before he got on the field, Boyle was at UCONN 2 months before being thrown to the wolves. The decision to put Boyle in there when he clearly was not ready is the definition of incompetence. No doubt Casey had an elite QB mind, probably better than most NFL QB's. Plus Casey was coached up by a football genius father.
Shireffs was an excellent runner which as I stated makes things easier for everybody and loosens up the defense. He also was a third year player by the time he played for UCONN.
Whitmer had the JUCO year and also was a 3rd year player (notice a trend?) before he got on the field at UCONN. Experience and practice time matters. Boyle showed he was improving in the Houston game, he made some nice throws to get the win but he was never going to overcome Shireff's ability to run so he wisely transferred.
Amazing.
We scored 20 points against Houston. We scored 7 on the opening drive with Shireffs. We scored 7 on the flea flicker where, by all rights, the DE should have intercepted Boyle's lateral and run with it for a defensive TD. And besides that, in 53 minutes he led us to two FGs.
The denial about how poor he was when he got opportunities here is truly amazing.
Casey had been at UCONN 20 MONTHS before he got on the field, Boyle was at UCONN 2 months before being thrown to the wolves. The decision to put Boyle in there when he clearly was not ready is the definition of incompetence. No doubt Casey had an elite QB mind, probably better than most NFL QB's. Plus Casey was coached up by a football genius father.
Shireffs was an excellent runner which as I stated makes things easier for everybody and loosens up the defense. He also was a third year player by the time he played for UCONN.
Whitmer had the JUCO year and also was a 3rd year player (notice a trend?) before he got on the field at UCONN. Experience and practice time matters.
Boyle showed he was improving in the Houston game, he made some nice throws to get the win and showed much improved footwork, but he was never going to overcome Shireffs ability to run so he wisely transferred.
Explanation requested and explanation given. Nailed it.
Not quite. An invite to preseason camp does not an NFL QB make. Have to make the final 53 for that distinction.Boyle is now an NFL QB. Which one of us in in denial?
Amazing.
We scored 20 points against Houston. We scored 7 on the opening drive with Shireffs. We scored 7 on the flea flicker where, by all rights, the DE should have intercepted Boyle's lateral and run with it for a defensive TD. And besides that, in 53 minutes he led us to two FGs.
The denial about how poor he was when he got opportunities here is truly amazing.
By far the worst QB we’ve ever had in our FBS history. He had opportunities and he was brutal. Had a bad year at EKU too. Not sure what’s happening here by I doubt it lasts
Boyle is now an NFL QB. Which one of us is in denial?
How hard is it to understand that he could go on to the Pro Bowl AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW HE PERFORMED AT UCONN?
Not even sure he was worst this decade. In fairness, we have put more than 1 kid in at QB who was not ready.
I don't doubt he had/has NFL arm strength. That's something you either have or you don't. But it takes a lot more than NFL arm strength to be a good QB.
Look, I have nothing against this young man and I am rooting for him to succeed. But let's not start a myth that he never had a chance to succeed here. He had chances and he never showed the ability. Is that all his fault? No, of course not. But the bottom line is that we had other QBs who, with the same chance in various years, showed more.
By far the worst QB we’ve ever had in our FBS history. He had opportunities and he was brutal. Had a bad year at EKU too. Not sure what’s happening here by I doubt it lasts
Phil - Trust in Chief - the dude has potential and they will keep him on the team or practice squad.
Boyle’s highlights look better than any of the three Giants QBs last night.
By far the worst QB we’ve ever had in our FBS history. He had opportunities and he was brutal. Had a bad year at EKU too. Not sure what’s happening here by I doubt it lasts
If Tim makes the Packers will he be the 1st UConn QB to make an NFL team as a QB since Dan O? I would say a super, duper tip of the cap if the kid can pull that off. Just getting into a practice game as a QB is quite a feat. As an athlete you have a chance for a team to try and turn you into a pro level player if you are a pitcher with heat, a WR with speed, a PG with a handle or a QB with a rocket arm.
So Tim makes a summer roster and Lagow didn't.
Weist actually agrees with you. We had dinner several years ago and I asked him that question. His answer implied that while he was wary of starting Boyle he felt the media buildup and public anticipation was too great for him to pull the plug on the idea. This was his first shot at being HC.IIRC, Boyle was inserted as starter by Pasqualoni 14 hours before the latter was fired. Weist should have pulled the reigns on that plan and maintained Boyle's redshirt.
Did Whitmer even sniff an NFL camp? Let's not split hairs here. The talent difference Whitmer and Boyle was, is, and will always be very wide.Not quite. An invite to preseason camp does not an NFL QB make. Have to make the final 53 for that distinction.
Did Whitmer even sniff an NFL camp? Let's not split hairs here. The talent difference Whitmer and Boyle was, is, and will always be very wide.
Whitmer was invited to try out at mini-camp and sent packing. I was referring to training camp. But technically, you're correct, he had a sniff, at a mini-camp.He went to mini-camp with the Eagles, so I would definitely say he “sniffed” an NFL camp.
Whitmer, for all of his many issues, was a better performer than Boyle in a UConn uniform.