Tim Boyle Continues to Impress

[Stainmaster]

Sometimes you should step back and just not say anything.

You seem triggered, snowflake.

 

[Nostical]

He's not exactly Rudy... It's great for him and all but you are doing the weird thing that you do, again

Call me weird, but I call it impressive when someone who constantly hears "No" has the self belief to push on against the odds. The songwriter who wrote Billboard's #1 song of the 70's, "You Light Up My Life, pitched his song to every major label and they all turned it down before finally getting it recorded.

When all the pros are telling you no, to somehow persevere and never give up on your dream--that's a pretty inspiring story

 

[JMick]

Call me weird, but I call it impressive when someone who constantly hears "No" has the self belief to push on against the odds. The songwriter who wrote Billboard's #1 song of the 70's, "You Light Up My Life, pitched his song to every major label and they all turned it down before finally getting it recorded.

When all the pros are telling you no, to somehow persevere and never give up on your dream--that's a pretty inspiring story

You just attribute everyone's success to "hard work" and "perseverance" and think that a positive outlook always results in a positive outcome. Plenty of positive, hard working people don't succeed.

You can have the best outlook and work the hardest out of anyone on Earth but if you're 5'5" you're not playing QB in High School nevermind the NFL

This is a habit that a lot of successful people have because they had success doing it, but it's purely anecdotal. Everyone thinks they work hard and have strong character.

 

[Chief00]

His EK stats were much, much better than his UConn stats. He played well under his ability at UConn --and that's not all on him.

Not three years - but a secret injury that - hindered his progress. They did not want the opponent to beat up on it.

 

[06029]

You want to know what happened to him? Take a look at the 2013 stat line again -

133 attempts and sacked 18 times! That 41% of his total attempts. The kid got killed in 2013. I seem to remember that in his career here at Uconn, he took as many, if not more, vicious hits as any QB that ever played at Uconn. What happened in 2013 to the coaching staff? Oh yeah, PP was canned and Weist decide to show the fans that passing was a cool thing to do. The next two years, he barely had the chance to throw the ball thanks to coach Fishcakes and his great coaching ability.

 

[Stainmaster]

You want to know what happened to him? Take a look at the 2013 stat line again -

133 attempts and sacked 18 times! That 41% of his total attempts. The kid got killed in 2013. I seem to remember that in his career here at Uconn, he took as many, if not more, vicious hits as any QB that ever played at Uconn. What happened in 2013 to the coaching staff? Oh yeah, PP was canned and Weist decide to show the fans that passing was a cool thing to do. The next two years, he barely had the chance to throw the ball thanks to coach Fishcakes and his great coaching ability.

Passing was a cool thing to do when we had a quarterback who knew how to throw a catchable ball.

Weist's offense looked terrible until Boyle got benched for Cochran.

 

[Nostical]

Plenty of positive, hard working people don't succeed. If you're 5'5" you're not playing QB in High School never mind the NFL

Really? Thanks for that insight. Boyle has talent, it didn't manifest itself at UConn. He was marginally better at Eastern KY but hardly eye opening. Looking at all the players on his Husky team who had aspirations of moving on, one of the last you (we) would have chosen is Tim. Had he listened to the negativity he'd be selling insurance. He believed, even if we didn't. That's impressive to me.

 

[Stainmaster]

Given Nostical's track record when it comes to predicting the team's performance the past couple years, you'd think he'd take a seat when it came to declaring the imminence of people's success.

 

[JMick]

Really? Thanks for that insight. Boyle has talent, it didn't manifest itself at UConn. He was marginally better at Eastern KY but hardly eye opening. Looking at all the players on his Husky team who had aspirations of moving on, one of the last you (we) would have chosen is Tim. Had he listened to the negativity he'd be selling insurance. He believed, even if we didn't. That's impressive to me.

You do this all the time though lol that's my point.

 

[Adios]

Passing was a cool thing to do when we had a quarterback who knew how to throw a catchable ball.

Weist's offense looked terrible until Boyle got benched for Cochran.

Crazy as it sounds, at the UL game, barely anyone was left towards the end so I had closer access to the bench. I started yelling, "Start Casey!" Weist heard that and looked as if his antennae were up. Smart man.

 

[BlueMAB]

133 attempts and sacked 18 times! That 41% of his total attempts.

Interesting math.

 

[Exit 4]

Interesting math.

You should see his work with the CT state pension system.

 

[06029]

Interesting math.

cAN i DEALP dyslexia?

18 times in 5 games is still a huge number of sacks.

 

[Chief00]

A three year long secret injury...

Never said the injury was three years but it impacted his development especially given the poor line.

 

[huskyinfl]

I have to imagine Boyle was not excited to become a life long cripple like his forefathers Whitener, Cochran, BS.

 

[Scrutineer]

Some just can’t see potential like Chief can and if you can’t see it - it’s difficult for Chief to describe the eye test. The criticism Tim took, reminds me of the criticism Dre Drummond took as a Freshman by many casual fans. QB is a difficult position to play when you’re young and you are averaging more than 1 coach per season. The casual fan doesn’t calculate that into the assessment formula and Diaco did not like the forward pass. Another factor was Tim had many drops due to UConn receivers not being use to the velocity of the ball coming out of his hands. But, with pros that velocity is needed given defensive team speed. And yet another factor was a secret injury that Chief knew about.

Dre had the same coaching Merry go round with Coach’s NCAA suspension and illnesses in 2012. Another factor was getting use to a broken nose and a face mask.

So going forward, the safe advice is trust in Chief, who will calculate all these factors.

And, if he'd been on double secret probation that injury might not have happened.............

 

[BlueDogs]

oh boy Chief....so now I need to watch a couple old Timmy games to see how this statement holds up.[/QUOTE

 

[Chief00]

Yes, that is an example where the receiver gets both hands on the ball, misses it and leads to an interception.
Please don’t be mistaken, I am not saying Tim had a great statistical career rather that there was evidence of talent and skills which could be developed with proper coaching and offensive system. You need to have that trained eye for talent and football vision to see what Tim could become.

 

[huskyrob1]

Some just can’t see potential like Chief can and if you can’t see it - it’s difficult for Chief to describe the eye test. The criticism Tim took, reminds me of the criticism Dre Drummond took as a Freshman by many casual fans. QB is a difficult position to play when you’re young and you are averaging more than 1 coach per season. The casual fan doesn’t calculate that into the assessment formula and Diaco did not like the forward pass. Another factor was Tim had many drops due to UConn receivers not being use to the velocity of the ball coming out of his hands. But, with pros that velocity is needed given defensive team speed. And yet another factor was a secret injury that Chief knew about.

Dre had the same coaching Merry go round with Coach’s NCAA suspension and illnesses in 2012. Another factor was getting use to a broken nose and a face mask.

So going forward, the safe advice is trust in Chief, who will calculate all these factors.

Boyle is still learning as a QB. Saw him play several times in high school, and he was so talented the Xavier coaches put him at multiple positions, defensive back and wide receiver or tight end, not just QB. As good as he was I think the Xavier coaching staff mishandled his development. He was not a full time QB until D'Amato graduated. Playing for a smash mouth program at Xavier didn't help him as it did at UConn under Paul Pasqualoni or Diaco who were not the best head coaches for a still learning, young quarterback.

 

[Adios]

I have to imagine Boyle was not excited to become a life long cripple like his forefathers Whitener, Cochran, BS.

Chandler Whitmer looks like he's doing some modelling now.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Threads like this make you wonder why most of the good posters don’t post on the football board anymore.

 

[TheDrifter75]

You need to have that trained eye for talent and football vision to see what Tim could become.

So, where does the layman go to get this training?

 

[Stainmaster]

So, where does the layman go to get this training?

As far away from Chief as humanly possible.

 

[Scrutineer]

Yes, that is an example where the receiver gets both hands on the ball, misses it and leads to an interception.
Please don’t be mistaken, I am not saying Tim had a great statistical career rather that there was evidence of talent and skills which could be developed with proper coaching and offensive system. You need to have that trained eye for talent and football vision to see what Tim could become.

My untrained eye and poor vision most often saw a guy with a strong arm overthrowing receivers that were double covered because TB stared down the primary receiver on every play (like on this play).
He sure looked the part of a major college QB, sizewise and arm strength wise, but didn't seem to know the plays well enough or couldn't sort through the options on each play quickly enough. Some of it could have been lack of time to throw due to a poor line, but it seemed he lacked the ability to make quick reads and find a secondary receiver or throw it away.
It's easy to criticize his play when it's not us under pressure to make a quick decision but isn't that what differentiates the great players from the average players?

 

[Chief00]

So, where does the layman go to get this training?

Good and fair question. Let Chief think about it - it’s more an art than a science.

 

[Husky25]

So, where does the layman go to get this training?

Careful, This may be perceived as a serious question...

Too late.

 

[huskyinfl]

Chandler Whitmer looks like he's doing some modelling now.

How could you expect a man that took a beating like that to have a career that requires complex brain functions? Just aim his wheelchair left and right and smile at the camera Chandler!

 

[upstater]

Well....thank you for spicing up the football board. This should make this thread interesting

I do remember some Boyle passes being dropped. And...I don't think you can fairly assess his time at UConn. It was a mess. He had 13 INTs and 1 TD. And...looking at last year at EK, it wasn't that great either.

Has anyone with stats anywhere close to Boyle's actually played in the NFL? Honest question...not taking a shot at him. But if he makes it, it is a pretty amazing story.

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Well, Matt Cassel threw many fewer TDs than Boyle in college.

 

[Chief00]

So, where does the layman go to get this training?

At this point in your life - leave it up to Chief to read the stitches on the fast ball. Just enjoy yourself and the game experience and Chief and perhaps others will do the analyletics. Quite frankly, it’s probably too late in the game to try to do it all yourself. And that’s fine.

 

[Redding Husky]

For reasons beyond my capabilities to understand, it seems many players do well after they leave UConn.