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Well I suppose if your logic is to get slaughtered. Sure. Makes perfect sense then. If you actually want to live, then you may have to come up with some other, more well thought out ideas. They tried the rash (kill Saviors) approach already, didn't work out so well.

It worked splendidly. They killed them. Took their stuff and had no real casualties. The screw-up came when they assumed they got them all and them acted like such morons trying to get Maggie some meds.

Rick's primary mistake has been in assuming that the zombies were the primary threat. You'd think he would have learned by now.
 
It worked splendidly. They killed them. Took their stuff and had no real casualties. The screw-up came when they assumed they got them all and them acted like such morons trying to get Maggie some meds.
Yea, see that would be rash. Not having a plan like figuring out who and what the Saviors were. It didn't work out. They now have no guns, (well a couple it looks like hidden, maybe), lost Abraham and Glenn and now are under Negan's thumb. I wouldn't call that splendid. IDK, maybe you think that's working it out splendidly?? Guess we have a different view of splendid.

Rick's primary mistake has been in assuming that the zombies were the primary threat. You'd think he would have learned by now.
Pretty sure Rick's been well aware of walkers vs human threats for quite some time.
 
Yea, see that would be rash. Not having a plan like figuring out who and what the Saviors were. It didn't work out. They now have no guns, (well a couple it looks like hidden, maybe), lost Abraham and Glenn and now are under Negan's thumb. I wouldn't call that splendid. IDK, maybe you think that's working it out splendidly?? Guess we have a different view of splendid.

Pretty sure Rick's been well aware of walkers vs human threats for quite some time.

The attack was a splendid success. The mistakes were made after that (including surrendering the guns last episode). Poor intel was certainly part of the problem.
 
Well I suppose if your logic is to get slaughtered. Sure. Makes perfect sense then. If you actually want to live, then you may have to come up with some other, more well thought out ideas. They tried the rash (kill Saviors) approach already, didn't work out so well.

Nooooooo.

He's out front of a gate with about two dozen men.

You have at least that many...plus, you are behind a gate. And you have an armory. And a rocket launcher.

You shoot the boss man. Then you start shooting the minions. Daryl can run for it - they're not going to worry about him in the chaos.

The remaining minions back at minion central will not do anything. ("We're all Negan!" "Negan's dead." "Welp, we had a good run.")

But again, that is logic in a world where we've agreed to suspend logic.
 
Just watched, freaking weak sauce. They could've definitely killed negan and picked off most of his minions that came with him. They already had a good idea of his forces from the bludgeoning and could've figured out what was left from extracting/torturing info out of the wounded plus Daryl. In any event they should've been prepared for something knowing that they had a week until their first visit.
 
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No, I think it's probably better to have someone who you've broken (subservient) who can control his own people. Like a lot of "real life", when you remove a leader/dictator you never know what's gonna fill that role. Negan doesn't want to have to kill everyone, he wants them to produce for him.
You are right it has nothing to do with Rick being the lead on a TV show.
 
Nooooooo.

He's out front of a gate with about two dozen men.

You have at least that many...plus, you are behind a gate. And you have an armory. And a rocket launcher.

You shoot the boss man. Then you start shooting the minions. Daryl can run for it - they're not going to worry about him in the chaos.

The remaining minions back at minion central will not do anything. ("We're all Negan!" "Negan's dead." "Welp, we had a good run.")

But again, that is logic in a world where we've agreed to suspend logic.

Exactly. Negan has no #2. The top minions likely each have a few supporters. They would probably all kill each other. The idea that they would all act cohesively against Alexandria, as Meyers suggests, is absurd. These people have no guiding, binding philosophy to keep them together.
 
The attack was a splendid success. The mistakes were made after that (including surrendering the guns last episode). Poor intel was certainly part of the problem.
The the poor intel was the problem. The main problem. Yes the attack was a success, but the mistakes were made prior to that in not figuring out who they were attacking.

Think Pearl Harbor, yep great success, HUGE mistake. (woke a sleeping giant)
 
Nooooooo.

He's out front of a gate with about two dozen men.

You have at least that many...plus, you are behind a gate. And you have an armory. And a rocket launcher.

You shoot the boss man. Then you start shooting the minions. Daryl can run for it - they're not going to worry about him in the chaos.

The remaining minions back at minion central will not do anything. ("We're all Negan!" "Negan's dead." "Welp, we had a good run.")

But again, that is logic in a world where we've agreed to suspend logic.
Yesssssssss. :rolleyes:

They don't even now Daryl is with them at this point. ????? You and logic (even in this fantasy world) really don't go together.

24 men, which is about a dozen more fighters than Alexandria has at the moment.

Again Head bang, it's pretty simple. Kill Negan, get slaughtered. Heck they don't even have to come back and kill them all, the Saviors can just set up and pick off small groups that go on runs until there is nothing left.
 
When everyone thinks you're wrong, it's probably because you're wrong.
 
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I've never seen anything like meyers' defense of every tiny aspect of this show. It's absolutely bizarre.
Not really defense, more just trying to explain it to people who really seem to have trouble understanding it. I don't particularly like everything they do, but I try to understand where they were coming from or what they were trying to do. I thought (think) people would (will) like it better if they had a better understanding. But I'm probably wrong here though. They probably get more enjoyment out of whining and complaining.

I've always had a habit (probably bad) of correcting people when they say something wrong (incorrect, misunderstand, lie, etc.). In real life I do try to control the urge somewhat, since it will sometimes piss people off, but on a message board, that's kinda the point. :cool:
 
Not really defense, more just trying to explain it to people who really seem to have trouble understanding it. I don't particularly like everything they do, but I try to understand where they were coming from or what they were trying to do. I thought (think) people would (will) like it better if they had a better understanding. But I'm probably wrong here though. They probably get more enjoyment out of whining and complaining.

I've always had a habit (probably bad) of correcting people when they say something wrong (incorrect, misunderstand, lie, etc.). In real life I do try to control the urge somewhat, since it will sometimes piss people off, but on a message board, that's kinda the point. :cool:

It pisses people off even more when they are right and they do understand it, and you are wrong and don't understand it.
Head bang
 
When everyone thinks you're wrong, it's probably because you're wrong.
Not from my experience. Most people aren't very bright. I used to think around 85%, but I've pushed it up to about 87%. (After this last election, I should probably push it up higher.) So if I know something to be true, no real reason to believe other people who may not agree.

I realize I really like this show, so I read quite a bit about it, think quite a bit about it, hence, I just know a hell of a lot more about it than you guys do. So all I'm trying to do is educate you guys some. Maybe you'll enjoy it more. Maybe not.
 
It pisses people off even more when they are right and they do understand it, and you are wrong and don't understand it.
Head bang
Tell me about it. I sometimes have to take a break I get so pissed off.
 
Not really defense, more just trying to explain it to people who really seem to have trouble understanding it. I don't particularly like everything they do, but I try to understand where they were coming from or what they were trying to do. I thought (think) people would (will) like it better if they had a better understanding. But I'm probably wrong here though. They probably get more enjoyment out of whining and complaining.

I've always had a habit (probably bad) of correcting people when they say something wrong (incorrect, misunderstand, lie, etc.). In real life I do try to control the urge somewhat, since it will sometimes piss people off, but on a message board, that's kinda the point. :cool:
That was one of the best passive aggressive posts I've seen. I'm not insulting it. I think you meant it that way. Kudos!
 
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If you stare at the sun long enough even the walking dead appear bright. ;)
 
Not really defense, more just trying to explain it to people who really seem to have trouble understanding it. I don't particularly like everything they do, but I try to understand where they were coming from or what they were trying to do. I thought (think) people would (will) like it better if they had a better understanding. But I'm probably wrong here though. They probably get more enjoyment out of whining and complaining.

I've always had a habit (probably bad) of correcting people when they say something wrong (incorrect, misunderstand, lie, etc.). In real life I do try to control the urge somewhat, since it will sometimes piss people off, but on a message board, that's kinda the point. :cool:

Look. He's not even defending every tiny little aspect of the show. He's now defending his defending of every tiny little aspect of the show. So strange.
 
Last 3 episodes could be the worst of the series. That is saying something. Zzzzzzzzzz.
Again I was pretty entertained. It somehow has become more of a TV show with a slow burning multiple angled plot-line of Negan and the Saviors. The Hilltop leader was implausible (didn't need that extreme to see Maggie is great) & obviously the Saviors needed to bash someone's head in rather than steal nice Scotch, but otherwise mixed some fun in with Carl and I like the pending assassination attempts.
 
In the apocolypse do Maggie and Michonne really find painted on jeans beneficial?

I guess.
 
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Again I was pretty entertained. It somehow has become more of a TV show with a slow burning multiple angled plot-line of Negan and the Saviors. The Hilltop leader was implausible (didn't need that extreme to see Maggie is great) & obviously the Saviors needed to bash someone's head in rather than steal nice Scotch, but otherwise mixed some fun in with Carl and I like the pending assassination attempts.
The "we'll take 50% of everything" thing can't work for long. At some point you don't leave a reason for people to comply. They are only in these communities because it's better than being on the road, but when you take 50% of their stuff each month it quickly becomes no different than being on the open road. I know that Enid dropped some of her guard for Maggie and Glenn (and Carl), but I can't believe she didn't say "great job getting rid of the Wolves, but I think I'm going to hit the road now."

Also, when the Saviors lit fires and sent the car into Hilltop, did anybody notice but Maggie? They don't have a guard? And then nobody even stirs as Jesus and 2 interlopers take care of their stuff? Unless that was a regular move by the Saviors and they all stay inside until they come back to clear the town (but then why didn't Jesus tell them that).

They've had trouble gaining traction in the beginning of the last few seasons. I think they are too ambitious in having big new themes that take a while to develop. I have confidence that it will get better, but it may take a few more episodes (or the mid-season break).
 
That was one of the best passive aggressive posts I've seen. I'm not insulting it. I think you meant it that way. Kudos!
I can be pretty passive-aggressive. Just ask my ex-wife. ;)
 
In the apocolypse do Maggie and Michonne really find painted on jeans beneficial?

I guess.
Obviously. Maggie is pregnant and Michonne has a boyfriend. It seems to work. :cool:
 
I know that Enid dropped some of her guard for Maggie and Glenn (and Carl), but I can't believe she didn't say "great job getting rid of the Wolves, but I think I'm going to hit the road now."

Also, when the Saviors lit fires and sent the car into Hilltop, did anybody notice but Maggie? They don't have a guard? And then nobody even stirs as Jesus and 2 interlopers take care of their stuff? Unless that was a regular move by the Saviors and they all stay inside until they come back to clear the town (but then why didn't Jesus tell them that).

They've had trouble gaining traction in the beginning of the last few seasons. I think they are too ambitious in having big new themes that take a while to develop. I have confidence that it will get better, but it may take a few more episodes (or the mid-season break).
Kind of agree. That wasn't one of my favorite episodes. I know they pretty much have different writers each week (or week by week, they recycle them and Kirkman and Gimple do write quite a few of the episodes), but occasionally you get an episode by it seems a not so good writer. This one was kind of "eh" for me.

I see what they are doing, but they just didn't seem to pull it off real well.

However, having Carl and Enid finally get together was a nice touch in the apocalypse ( a little hope). I like the direction of Maggie taking over Hilltop. And I like having both Carl and Jesus heading to Sanctuary. Different approach to the comics.

Also Simon wasn't too bad as a Negan lieutenant. Right now we have like 3 main leaders of the Saviors, Negan, Dwight and Simon. Don't think all of them are gonna stay on the Saviors side though.

The "we'll take 50% of everything" thing can't work for long. At some point you don't leave a reason for people to comply. They are only in these communities because it's better than being on the road, but when you take 50% of their stuff each month it quickly becomes no different than being on the open road.
True, but I don't think they do the "take 50%" every month or so. Like with the Kingdom, they wanted the pigs. Not 50% of everything. And with Alexandria, Negan just said he wanted something good/interesting next time. They need to go out and find it. Didn't even tell them what it might be. But it wasn't a 50% thing.
 
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This episode wasn't great - with a cast this large and with so many parallel story lines, you eventually have to have an episode with the "B" team.

This was the B team episode.
 
This episode wasn't great - with a cast this large and with so many parallel story lines, you eventually have to have an episode with the "B" team.

This was the B team episode.

And now they skipped right to the "D" team
 
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