The Question which won’t go away

[pepband99]

Serious question- What am I missing? Fuller addressed the question to the Head Coach - not an assistant or player.

Fuller asked about Wake's ex-assistant. Either ask the question about the UConn D, or Crocker, or don't ask it. Mamby-pambying around the question gave Edsall an out, and he took it. Good for him

 

[huskymedic]

Serious question- What am I missing? Fuller addressed the question to the Head Coach - not an assistant or player.

In listening to the audio I don’t believe he was referring to the actual “act of asking a question” - my sense after listening to it a few times (I was on the road) and then reading the quotes after, he was saying that the buck stops w/ him and he has the right players and staff in place. Question his competency - not his coaches or players. It’s all on him.

 

[Storrs South]

Ah just what we all need, Paul Finebaum chiming in after the entire ESPN brigade went after the program over Ryan Dickens while every other college program does the same thing

 

[noeynox]

Ah just what we all need, Paul Finebaum chiming in after the entire ESPN brigade went after the program over Ryan Dickens while every other college program does the same thing

God I hate agreeing with Finebaum.

 

[Waquoit]

How would HCRE handle it if he actually was faced with real heat? "Fire my ***", really? That's embarrassing.

 

[Chief00]

In listening to the audio I don’t believe he was referring to the actual “act of asking a question” - my sense after listening to it a few times (I was on the road) and then reading the quotes after, he was saying that the buck stops w/ him and he has the right players and staff in place. Question his competency - not his coaches or players. It’s all on him.

That’s fair enough and that’s the standard he should be held to anyways. Again, I am not advocating anyone be fired in mid season; but count me as a Crocker skeptic. Hopefully I am either wrong or Randy will basically make the point moot by effectively coordinating the defense.

 

[Chief00]

In listening to the audio I don’t believe he was referring to the actual “act of asking a question” - my sense after listening to it a few times (I was on the road) and then reading the quotes after, he was saying that the buck stops w/ him and he has the right players and staff in place. Question his competency - not his coaches or players. It’s all on him.

Listen again - If that interpretation was true - why did he walk out on the question and the questioner?
To me not a big deal but if Randy thinks this has taken the heat off Crocker, of course it’s done just the opposite.
The statistics which few nationally care about are being put out there in a comical way - which mocks him worse.

 

[Chief00]

Fuller asked about Wake's ex-assistant. Either ask the question about the UConn D, or Crocker, or don't ask it. Mamby-pambying around the question gave Edsall an out, and he took it. Good for him

I think you should listen again - the Wake thing was context but the question was about Crocker and his worse rated defense in the country.

 

[huskymedic]

Listen again - If that interpretation was true - why did he walk out on the question and the questioner?
To me not a big deal but if Randy thinks this has taken the heat off Crocker, of course it’s done just the opposite.
The statistics which few nationally care about are being put out there in a comical way - which mocks him worse.

The audio I’m talking about is from the day after comments this morning - not yesterdays.

 

[Chief00]

No, this is an assumption that you keep repeating. It could easily be well taught and communicated but break down during game scenarios for a number of reasons. You are assuming the entire coaching staff can’t teach and that’s a dumb assumption.

Good question, which Chief will gladly entertain.
The answer is you need to practice under stress situations. At the practices I have been to - I have seen Randy do that fairly frequently.
Maybe it’s just the way I perceived it - but it seems to be more on offense but granted the defense is on the other side. Rather than 2 minute drills or red zone stuff that the offense tries to simulate perhaps the defense should do mid game stuff between the 20’s rather than crisis situational. That way they could focus on basic technique rather than other stuff. Just a thought.

 

[Chief00]

Maybe if you post more threads about it, they’ll take action.

Or maybe you can meet Randy for some pizza and develop a strategy for filling the DC position.

Not a criticism but a personality type. I have found Jim Calhoun much more open to different thoughts than Randy. Randy thinks he knows the answers and will get results on his time table. The problem is he doesn’t always get to set the time table and sometimes there are better ideas out there.

 

[weyuo]

Crocker was successful at the FCS level because he had players that could compete at that level. Give the guy players that can compete on this level and see what happens.

 

[huskymedic]

Fuller’s account of this morning: UConn coach Randy Edsall stands by his players, coaches a day after walking out of press conference

 

[Chief00]

Crocker was successful at the FCS level because he had players that could compete at that level. Give the guy players that can compete on this level and see what happens.

With all due respect for the guys who play FCS. It’s really a different game. The speed and QB’s, especially in the top tier AAC teams, make it unfair to compare the two.

 

[huskysupporter]

With all due respect for the guys who play FCS. It’s really a different game. The speed and QB’s, especially in the top tier AAC teams, make it unfair to compare the two.

Wait, FBS has a different quality of athletes than FCS? What a hot take.

 

[Woof 101]

Reminds me of when he walked out on the team.

No attack Pal, he walked out of a presser with the last question being asked having nothing to do with his team. That or even one on our schedule.
To compare this to his original walking out on the team and the school is simply a thought process you should think about to say the least.

I'm not upset. Just noting it. I forgive him but I won't forget. It's why I am skeptical when he lectures about accountability. I found his reaction to be completely in character.
Once again you thinking you can read my mind is bizarre.

If you can't forgive and forget, pick one. Find an experience in your own life to get over it. Anyone following the program knows there was a ton of dog poop going on behind the scenes between Randy and Hathaway at the time. Something I should say Randy has always taken the high road on and never expounded to the public on.
Really hope you can find a way to get over it, good luck and GO DOGS!!!

 

[uconndogs]

Not a criticism but a personality type. I have found Jim Calhoun much more open to different thoughts than Randy. Randy thinks he knows the answers and will get results on his time table. The problem is he doesn’t always get to set the time table and sometimes there are better ideas out there.

I had no idea you know these guys so well and have a personal relatioship with them. They must be thrilled with your posting on these boards.

 

[Woof 101]

No, this is an assumption that you keep repeating. It could easily be well taught and communicated but break down during game scenarios for a number of reasons. You are assuming the entire coaching staff can’t teach and that’s a dumb assumption.

No one disputes the heart or raw ingredients. What he doesn’t have is the experience and development that a Rs. Jr. or Senior would have.

SOMETIMES I wish you could like some comments twice....

 

[Chief00]

Edsall gets paid the big bucks to answer that question — he should have stood and delivered.

That said, I really don’t like how the question was asked. The journalist shouldn’t have approached it sideways via Wake Forest. He should have asked, straight on:

“The defense has really struggled. Do you still stand behind Betty Crocker?”

That would have put Edsall in a better position to give the answer you knew he was going to give, anyways.

An interviewee doesn’t get to choose how the questions are worded.

 

[Chief00]

I virtually walk out in every Chief post so just get his reaction. This is a Jimmy and Joes issue with defense n.

3,230 views and 107 replies later this thread has really been hurt by your walkout.

 

[Chief00]

Smh
Clearly you didn’t read my post.
They are getting coached- each and every day. There are guys on our coaching staff that have legit NFL experience either coaching or playing.
Young kids take a while to develop consistency.
But the reality is, football across all levels have players that blow assignments, fail to get low and miss tackles.
Receivers drop balls, miss blocks, etc.
it happens.
But when you’re as young as us, it happens more frequently.
It’s like blind leading the blind out there. We don’t have veteran leaders to mask some of these mistakes that tend to happen during a game.
Corner gets beat and safety comes over and makes an outstanding play- you’re talking about the safety and not as much about that corner on the play.
Lineman can’t get off a block but LB gap fits and blows a play up for no gain. You’re not talking about that lineman as much as the great run fit by the LB

You are generally talking about results above and not the detailed techniques that Chief is referring to. Perfectly, understandable mistake yet there’s a World of difference.

 

[huskymedic]

An interviewer doesn’t get to choose how the questions are worded.

You sure about that?

 

[Hornet22]

You are generally talking about results above and not the detailed techniques that Chief is referring to. Perfectly, understandable mistake yet there’s a World of difference.

The results come from the techniques that aren’t being implemented on a consistent basis due to youth and inexperience.
How do you explain any of the good plays that these young men have made? Or does Chief believe no good plays have been made all year?
If so, was it luck?

 

[Chief00]

You sure about that?

LOL - auto typo on phone - I corrected. Thanks.

 

[Chief00]

The results come from the techniques that aren’t being implemented on a consistent basis due to youth and inexperience.
How do you explain any of the good plays that these young men have made? Or does Chief believe no good plays have been made all year?
If so, was it luck?

My understanding is we are dead last in the country per key defensive metrics - what more do you need to know?
Yeah, we sprinkle in a few good plays but not nearly enough.

 

[Purple Stein]

An interviewee doesn’t get to choose how the questions are worded.

Chief. You know I love Chief, but this is a weird response.

I had two points. First, I didn’t like the approach to the question. Seems like you didn’t either, and that’s cool beans.

Second, Edsall makes a gob-ton of dollars and should stand and answer what he’s asked.

Of course he doesn’t get to choose how questions are worded. But he does get to choose how he responds, and Edsall made a poopy choice in his response here, IMHO.

 

[Husky68]

HCRE2.0 took a rather poor strategy to the questioned asked if his intent was to not encourage more questions about his DC.

As a coach who once or twice won a super bowl said "you are what your record says you are". In 2018 UConn is (in terms of defensive yardage given up per game) by far the worst team of the 129 teams in FBS.

I thought I'd look at this same category of total defensive yardage for years 2017 and 2016. I know all the stuff about youth, inexperience, etc. that makes each year different; but should they be that different. You can decide.

2018 UConn #129 at 664 ypg
Best #1 at 204 ypg
Middle #64 at 366 ypg
Worst UConn

2017 UConn #126 at 519 ypg
Best #1 at 260 ypg
Middle #64 at 390 ypg
Worst # 129 at 541 ypg

2016 UConn # 65 at 410 ypg
Best #1 at 262 ypg
Middle # 65 UConn
Worst #129 at 554 ypg

UConn went from middle of the pack defensive stats in 2106 to bottom in 2017 and the very bottom so far in 2018. Sure some was personnel and many other factors but really 2016 to 2017 was quite the drop, before we even get to 2018. RI gained 550 yards against UConn in 2018, against its 2 other non FBS opponents it averaged 360 yards per game (we're talking Delaware and Albany); put that in your thinking hat!

I'm actually expecting improvement through rest of the year for the defense, HCRE2.0 has tried the wrong strategy playing slower guys on the line and even in the RI game saying he was waiting for 3rd down to put his speed/rush package in. Earth to HCRE2.0, UConn's opponents hardly ever need a 3rd down before converting a 1st down!

 

[BlueDogs]

With all due respect for the guys who play FCS. It’s really a different game. The speed and QB’s, especially in the top tier AAC teams, make it unfair to compare the two.

Lineman speed is vastly different too. They are both big and quick. At 1AA, the lineman are big but slower and less athletic. That’s why you need linebackers with some size, stength and quickness at 1A. The tween backer works at 1AA because you can advantage the speed difference. Not so much at big boy level.

 

[Nostical]

Earth to Edsall 2.0, UConn's opponents hardly ever need a 3rd down before converting a 1st down!

That’s actually not a bad measure of our improvement. We did better with that stat in Syracuse.

 

[Chief00]

HCRE2.0 took a rather poor strategy to the questioned asked if his intent was to not encourage more questions about his DC.

As a coach who once or twice won a super bowl said "you are what your record says you are". In 2018 UConn is (in terms of defensive yardage given up per game) by far the worst team of the 129 teams in FBS.

I thought I'd look at this same category of total defensive yardage for years 2017 and 2016. I know all the stuff about youth, inexperience, etc. that makes each year different; but should they be that different. You can decide.

2018 UConn #129 at 664 ypg
Best #1 at 204 ypg
Middle #64 at 366 ypg
Worst UConn

2017 UConn #126 at 519 ypg
Best #1 at 260 ypg
Middle #64 at 390 ypg
Worst # 129 at 541 ypg

2016 UConn # 65 at 410 ypg
Best #1 at 262 ypg
Middle # 65 UConn
Worst #129 at 554 ypg

UConn went from middle of the pack defensive stats in 2106 to bottom in 2017 and the very bottom so far in 2018. Sure some was personnel and many other factors but really 2016 to 2017 was quite the drop, before we even get to 2018. RI gained 550 yards against UConn in 2018, against its 2 other non FBS opponents it averaged 360 yards per game (we're talking Delaware and Albany); put that in your thinking hat!

I'm actually expecting improvement through rest of the year for the defense, HCRE2.0 has tried the wrong strategy playing slower guys on the line and even in the RI game saying he was waiting for 3rd down to put his speed/rush package in. Earth to HCRE2.0, UConn's opponents hardly ever need a 3rd down before converting a 1st down!

Good research, essentially supporting Chief’s eye test.