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The Official 2025 NY Jets thread

ShakyTheMohel said:
AG and Mougey now get a free pass for this year..and it’s almost like their tenure starts next year…and then they get 3 years to get their own guys. It’s disappointing that they couldn’t figure out how to add pieces to the existing team and create a winner. They didn’t have cap issues and needed to clear room by trading players on big contracts. And it wasn’t like Gardner and QW were bad guys.

Well…on the bright side….the new QB shouldn’t come into as bad of a situation as Darnold and WIlson came into. The OL is decent..with good young tackles…they have a star WR and a good TE. Now all they need to do is not whiff on the QB…again. And then maybe 5 years down the road they can make a wildcard playoff game. Sigh.
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do you trust the Jets with selecting a QB?
 
Deepster said:
Most outlets give the Jets an "A" grade for today and I can see why. They just don't have to live with the next 3 years on top of the last 50 like I do. It gets tough being patient after a few decades, you know?
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From my outsider perspective, I think that this is a positive development that needed to be done. The Jets needed a reset. It looks like they read the market perfectly and maximized their return. The question now is, do the people in charge now have the ability to continue the rebuild intelligently? The Jet fans can answer that better than me but the GM got step 1 correct, imo. And done right you could have a contender in less than 3 years.
 
Waquoit said:
From my outsider perspective, I think that this is a positive development that needed to be done. The Jets needed a reset. It looks like they read the market perfectly and maximized their return. The question now is, do the people in charge now have the ability to continue the rebuild intelligently? The Jet fans can answer that better than me but the GM got step 1 correct, imo. And done right you could have a contender in less than 3 years.
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Regardless of GM, the selling off is the easier part and much more likely to look good when you say "Well, you needed to rip it all down". The hard part is the successful use of those draft picks and no Jets GM has ever shown the ability to do that.

When they traded Jamal Adams in 2020, they ended up getting Alijah Vera Tucker and Garrett Wilson. Wilson has obviously been a great pick, however, he has yet to maximize anything, play with a competent QB or make the offense any better. Tucker has missed half of 2022, 75% of 2023, played all of 2024 and will miss all of 2025. So, I "guess" that was a good trade for them but so what?
 
Deepster said:
Regardless of GM, the selling off is the easier part and much more likely to look good when you say "Well, you needed to rip it all down". The hard part is the successful use of those draft picks and no Jets GM has ever shown the ability to do that.

When they traded Jamal Adams in 2020, they ended up getting Alijah Vera Tucker and Garrett Wilson. Wilson has obviously been a great pick, however, he has yet to maximize anything, play with a competent QB or make the offense any better. Tucker has missed half of 2022, 75% of 2023, played all of 2024 and will miss all of 2025. So, I "guess" that was a good trade for them but so what?
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It's so hard without quality QB play. Don't need a star, but you need competence. In hindsight, obviously they shouldn't have given up on Darnold and perhaps instead looked for a better OC. Darnold's backup Flacco would even have been serviceable, yet he was behind White the next year right? Zach Wilson was a gamble. Rodgers a desperation move. Fields a very reasonable gamble. I won't even mention Geno Smith as I really can't blame any GM for not seeing a future with him becoming a totally different player.

You've got two drafts in a row coming up now with ammunition to solve the QB position. Plenty of cap space too.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It's so hard without quality QB play. Don't need a star, but you need competence. In hindsight, obviously they shouldn't have given up on Darnold and perhaps instead looked for a better OC. Darnold's backup Flacco would even have been serviceable, yet he was behind White the next year right? Zach Wilson was a gamble. Rodgers a desperation move. Fields a very reasonable gamble. I won't even mention Geno Smith as I really can't blame any GM for not seeing a future with him becoming a totally different player.

You've got two drafts in a row coming up now with ammunition to solve the QB position. Plenty of cap space too.
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Or use those picks to trade for a established QB.
 
Mike75 said:
Or use those picks to trade for a established QB.
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They could do the Falcon approach…sign or trade for an established starter AND draft a QB in the first round. That way you have a backup plan.

But…that heasn’t worked out that great for Atlanta.

Everything….everything…hinges on their ability to actually draft a decent QB.
 
Mike75 said:
Or use those picks to trade for a established QB.
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Has that worked for anybody but the Rams in recent history? Even they already had a good young QB who had taken them to the Super Bowl. Russ Wilson - dud. Watson - mega flop. Matt Ryan - dud. Rodgers to Jets - meh. Geno Smith - meh. Very few hits really. Bledsoe to Bills, Hasselback to Seattle, Tannehill to Titans. If I were a Jets fan I would be very worried if they start talking about reviving Cousins' corpse. It also wouldn't make much sense as part of a rebuild.

You should be able to get Mendoza or Simpson.
 
One of the jets radio guys said it well… forget who it was but it came across my reels:

This is the EASY part. The jets front office deserves no credit for executing trades with teams who are better than us and are light years further than us on their way to a Super Bowl. The picks they gave up are well worth it.

The part that actually matters, and where New York does not trust this team, is turning that into field success. If being an NFL team is about winning trades, then the jets are world champions, aren’t we? Remember how we “fleeced” the Seahawks for Jamal Adams? Well… look at the records for these two teams since we won that trade, supposedly.

So, talking heads, stop telling us we fleeced anyone. The point is WINNING GAMES, not friggin trades… and everyone seems to be doing it except us. I’d say we lost this trade because of the mere fact it happened at all. Only losers sell the house for lottery tickets, which we seem to have gotten a little too good at.

I hate this team.
 
The New York jets are the UMass of the NFL.

We make winning football games look wayyyyyy harder than it is. And it IS hard. But not THIS hard.
 
There's so much nonsense buzzing around but someone mentioned something I thought was a fun discussion.

We have the picks, $ and capacity to discuss it....and if Cincy was open to it, would you trade for Joe Burrow in the offseason? He's 29, appears injury prone BUT the Cincy OL is awful and it appears we have a good young nucleus there. Cincy could draft a young QB they like and they have Chase/Higgins locked up to provide him talent. Would you?
 
Jetskies said:
Remember how we “fleeced” the Seahawks for Jamal Adams? Well… look at the records for these two teams since we won that trade, supposedly.
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i had to look it up. Sweet mother of Mary.
But oh yeahhhh "wE wOn ThAt TrAdE!!!"



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Deepster said:
There's so much nonsense buzzing around but someone mentioned something I thought was a fun discussion.

We have the picks, $ and capacity to discuss it....and if Cincy was open to it, would you trade for Joe Burrow in the offseason? He's 29, appears injury prone BUT the Cincy OL is awful and it appears we have a good young nucleus there. Cincy could draft a young QB they like and they have Chase/Higgins locked up to provide him talent. Would you?
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Maybe…if you can trade for him AND draft a QB in round 1. I think when Burrow is healthy, he is the best in the NFL. And as I said earlier…the Jets have a decent core for a QB to work with.

But….putting all your eggs in the Burrow basket is probably not a wise idea without a strong backup plan.
 
Well…I do like coaches being bold…I guess AG and Mougey really hated the defense Saleh put together. I thought Williams would be a good fit for Welks defense. AG doesn’t think so. It’s interesting that WIlliams shared the specific reasons they are benching him.

I am surprised that since they were benching him, they weren’t able to get something out of Saleh and Ulbrich for him.

www.espn.com

Jets demote LB Williams amid defensive shakeup

In addition to trading cornerstone players Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams, the Jets have demoted former All-Pro linebacker Quincy Williams.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
Benching Quincy Williams?

That tells me the locker room hasn't been sunshine and roses. To trade two leaders then bench another guy who had been a leader in year's past? I would guess the losing has had an impact on the culture and maybe credit to Glenn and staff for keeping it out of the media.
 
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