The Official 2025 NY Jets thread

[ShakyTheMohel]

No offense, but a) you're not that realistic sometimes and b) you're not a Jets fan.

Put yourself in my shoes. Since 2000....

2000 – New Coach in Al Groh. 1 season. 9-7. Testeverde at QB.
2001-2005 – New Coach in Herm Edwards. 39-41. 2 years of Vinny, 3 years of Pennington and 1 year of Brooks Bollinger.
2006-2008 – New Coach in Eric Mangini. 23-25. 2 years Pennington, 1 year of Favre.
2009-2014 – New Coach in Rex Ryan. 46-50. 4 years of Sanchez, 2 years of Geno Smith.
2015-2018 – New Coach in Todd Bowles. 24-40. A mix of Fitzgerald, McCown and rookie Darnold.
2019-2020 – New Coach in Adam Gase. 23-25. He ruined poor Sam Darnold.
2021-2024 – New Coach in Robert Saleh. 20-36. Zach Wilson and one year+3 snaps of Rodgers.

24 seasons for a combined 184/224 (.451). Every coach is a former DC other than Gase. A litany of has been QB's, backups or high draft pick failures. 14 seasons without a playoff appearance.

Why should I be excited about Glenn, no QB, no good QB's in the Draft or FA and a moron owner?

I feel your pain. Sadly…looking back, I was generally optimistic entering each of those eras. Only to be disappointed.

I guess that’s part of being a fan…ignoring history and remaining optimistic.

 

[Deepster]

Clean slate, but you are not incorrect. The "moron owner" is a biggest negative going against the franchise.

See, you don't get it.

It's not a clean slate. It's the same slate it's been every 3-5 years for a quarter century. Nothing's different.

 

[LIUCHusky]

I feel your pain. Sadly…looking back, I was generally optimistic entering each of those eras. Only to be disappointed.

I guess that’s part of being a fan…ignoring history and remaining optimistic.

It could be worse. I have been a Jet fan since attending opening night at Shea against Denver in 1964.

 

[Deepster]

It could be worse. I have been a Jet fan since attending opening night at Shea against Denver in 1964.

You got me by 5 years. God bless you.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

The latest Kiper mock has Sanders dropping down to the Jets. I find that hard to believe. Every year as we get closer to the draft, QBs move higher and higher up the draft board. I think he will be gone…but to be honest, I am not sure he is the answer anyway.

Maybe it’s because I have PTSD from Rodgers, but I just don’t want a celebrity QB. I know that Glenn is a Parcells disciple and Parcells also was not a fan of QBs who were bigger than the team.

This may be an unfair judgement on Sanders…but because of his father, there will be additional pressure and attention on his development. But on the other hand..beggars can’t be choosers.

 

[Husky25]

Rodgers thinks he is still the MVP version of himself from 3 years ago and thinks he can set conditions for a team to have the honor of him playing for them.

Good on the Jets for cutting him loose.

 

[Deepster]

The latest Kiper mock has Sanders dropping down to the Jets. I find that hard to believe. Every year as we get closer to the draft, QBs move higher and higher up the draft board. I think he will be gone…but to be honest, I am not sure he is the answer anyway.

Maybe it’s because I have PTSD from Rodgers, but I just don’t want a celebrity QB. I know that Glenn is a Parcells disciple and Parcells also was not a fan of QBs who were bigger than the team.

This may be an unfair judgement on Sanders…but because of his father, there will be additional pressure and attention on his development. But on the other hand..beggars can’t be choosers.

I am not sure I could watch Sanders as our qb. That might be the end of me. He’s the epitome of a guy who is down 24-0, throws a td and struts around like a peacock at his own personal greatness. Cam Newton Lite.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I am not sure I could watch Sanders as our qb. That might be the end of me. He’s the epitome of a guy who is down 24-0, throws a td and struts around like a peacock at his own personal greatness. Cam Newton Lite.

I have a feeling he will be suiting up in MetLife. Just not in green. Count your blessings. Dart will probably be better.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I have a feeling he will be suiting up in MetLife. Just not in green. Count your blessings. Dart will probably be better.

I agree…i don’t see how he drops to 7.

The knock on Dart is that he might be a system qb who benefitted from playing for Kiffin. But I like his personality and aggressiveness.

 

[HuskyHawk]

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

This was expected. The only way he could stay would be if he agreed to a restructured contract. Hopefully Lazard is next.

I liked Adams but I think the Jets are trying to change their culture and Wilson is their future.

But…this is a mostly financial decision.

 

[HuskyHawk]

This was expected. The only way he could stay would be if he agreed to a restructured contract. Hopefully Lazard is next.

I liked Adams but I think the Jets are trying to change their culture and Wilson is their future.

But…this is a mostly financial decision.

You called it. The Rogers appeasement players are being shown the door.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

You called it. The Rogers appeasement players are being shown the door.

Who would sign this guy? He has shown that unless Rodgers is his quarterback, he is an uproductive player. Also…the drops.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Who would sign this guy? He has shown that unless Rodgers is his quarterback, he is an uproductive player. Also…the drops.

He had a good year with the Raiders and Carr. He won't get a big contract.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

He had a good year with the Raiders and Carr. He won't get a big contract.

I am talking about Lazard..not Adams. I actually think Adams is still a quality reciever.

 

[Deepster]

I am talking about Lazard..not Adams. I actually think Adams is still a quality reciever.

I don't know. WR's hit a wall pretty clearly whether it's injuries or Father Time. AJ Green, Deandre Hopkins, Julio Jones, etc, etc. When you factor in the price tag? I'm not sure there are a ton of teams banging down his door.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I don't know. WR's hit a wall pretty clearly whether it's injuries or Father Time. AJ Green, Deandre Hopkins, Julio Jones, etc, etc. When you factor in the price tag? I'm not sure there are a ton of teams banging down his door.

He was very good at the end of last year. He probably isn’t a 1 anymore…but he would be a great complement to strong 1.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

LIstening to Cimini’s podcast today and he was talking with Charlie Weiss whose son is the OC at Ole Miss. Weiss was raving about Jaxson Dart and saying he is this year’s Bo Nix. A QB who people are ignoring who are actually deserving of a high draft pick.

Other than his physical attributes and the fact he has had like 40 starts at high major programs. he was raving about Dart having ”it”. This made me think back to what evaluators were saying about Zach WIlson. The knock on Zach was his limited starts, especially against top competition. The other knock on Zach was questionable leadership.

So maybe he is onto something with Dart. I also like that as opposed to Nix, Dart is only 21.

I wonder it the Jets will consider taking him at 7.

 

[Deepster]

LIstening to Cimini’s podcast today and he was talking with Charlie Weiss whose son is the OC at Ole Miss. Weiss was raving about Jaxson Dart and saying he is this year’s Bo Nix. A QB who people are ignoring who are actually deserving of a high draft pick.

Other than his physical attributes and the fact he has had like 40 starts at high major programs. he was raving about Dart having ”it”. This made me think back to what evaluators were saying about Zach WIlson. The knock on Zach was his limited starts, especially against top competition. The other knock on Zach was questionable leadership.

So maybe he is onto something with Dart. I also like that as opposed to Nix, Dart is only 21.

I wonder it the Jets will consider taking him at 7.

I’m starting to gravitate towards this one.

 

[HuskyHawk]

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I don‘t hate this idea…but if they get Fields…I doubt they draft a QB at 7. You get Fields and you go with him, Taylor and Travis. Then draft a DT, OT or CB at 7 and maybe a QB like McCord in a later round.

If you don’t sign a veteran QB, you draft Dart at 7 and go with Taylor, Dart and Travis.


Either way it’s a crap shoot. And..the Jets usually don‘t win crap shoots.

 

[HuskyHawk]

 

[Deepster]

https://x.com/snyjets/status/1899168524649542025

Fields signs for 2 years, 40m total, 30m guaranteed. I have NO issues with one. Relatively cheap, high draft pedigree, hopefully a late bloomer and if he's not, move on after 2 years.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

https://x.com/snyjets/status/1899168524649542025

Fields signs for 2 years, 40m total, 30m guaranteed. I have NO issues with one. Relatively cheap, high draft pedigree, hopefully a late bloomer and if he's not, move on after 2 years.

I agree…I am ok with this. Draft a QB in a later round also.