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ShakyTheMohel said:
Ok…time for a doom post.

After 2 preseason games, the Jets QB situation doesn’t look good….short term or long term. Unless Glenn is just being super cautious in pre-season, Fields isn’t throwing the ball more than 10 yards. Wilson hasn’t caught a pass in either game. And…Taylor is out for the rest of pre-season. Considering it’s the Jets…who knows when he will actually be available.

The Jets are one hard tackle from having their below average QB knocked out and Adrian Martinez being their starting quarterback.

I was concerned when they didn’t use a draft pick for a QB and now that looks really bad. UFA Cook has not looked good at all.

Before the draft, I heard Charlie Weis with Cimini saying that Jaxson Dart was the real deal and the Jets should consider drafting him. At the time, the idea of drafting Dart that high in the first round seemed crazy. People also thought drafting Nix in 2024 that high was crazy, but apparently Payton knows how to spot a QB. Dart looks like the real deal.

Unfortunately the Jets don’t know how to spot a qb…let’s hope Fields is not as bad as he has looked so far. What I fear is that they will just give up on the passing game completely and start running Fields more and more. Then…he gets injured…and the Jets starter will be someone like Trevor Siemian…again.
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I’m right with you. This week they have worked out a few real retread bums and I just know one of them will be the starting quarterback by week 3 or 4.

They’re going to 16-13 themselves to a 8-10 record and out of range for a franchise qb next draft so you’re looking at least two seasons of Justin Fields.
 
Deepster said:
I’m right with you. This week they have worked out a few real retread bums and I just know one of them will be the starting quarterback by week 3 or 4.

They’re going to 16-13 themselves to a 8-10 record and out of range for a franchise qb next draft so you’re looking at least two seasons of Justin Fields.
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That’s exactly what they will do…play well enough to not get a good draft pick. I can see Fields getting injured and missing the first half of the season…then he comes back and looks “ok” and wins enough games to get them to 6 wins and the #12 pick in the draft. Not high enough to draft a top QB…so they run it back with Fields again.

I do like what Glenn and Mougey have done so far to fix the culture, I just worry that once again they have failed in fixing the QB issue..both short term and long term. Right now, I think the Giants have 3 quarterbacks better than any Jets QB…and all 3 were picked up this offseason. How does that happen?
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
That’s exactly what they will do…play well enough to not get a good draft pick. I can see Fields getting injured and missing the first half of the season…then he comes back and looks “ok” and wins enough games to get them to 6 wins and the #12 pick in the draft. Not high enough to draft a top QB…so they run it back with Fields again.

I do like what Glenn and Mougey have done so far to fix the culture, I just worry that once again they have failed in fixing the QB issue..both short term and long term. Right now, I think the Giants have 3 quarterbacks better than any Jets QB…and all 3 were picked up this offseason. How does that happen?
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I’m not going to give any credit towards fixing the culture until I see a .500+ season and a playoff appearance. Every new regime gets the preseason hype from the media on changing the culture.
 
As I have said….I like Glenn…I think he has the right attitude to be the Jets coach. But, I am disappointed with his response to questions about Fields and the passing game. He conveniently forgets that Fields has a historically shaky track record as a passer. There is a reason he is on his third team. So when he looks bad against a bad secondary, it’s fair to ask questions. This isn’t a one time thing with Fields.

Hopefully this isn’t a sign that Glenn is going to be thin skinned. That won’t work well in NY.

www.espn.com

Aaron Glenn 'very confident' in Justin Fields, Jets' passing attack

Jets coach Aaron Glenn on Tuesday sounded both amused and annoyed by the reaction to quarterback Justin Fields' two preseason performances.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
As I have said….I like Glenn…I think he has the right attitude to be the Jets coach. But, I am disappointed with his response to questions about Fields and the passing game. He conveniently forgets that Fields has a historically shaky track record as a passer. There is a reason he is on his third team. So when he looks bad against a bad secondary, it’s fair to ask questions. This isn’t a one time thing with Fields.

Hopefully this isn’t a sign that Glenn is going to be thin skinned. That won’t work well in NY.

www.espn.com

Aaron Glenn 'very confident' in Justin Fields, Jets' passing attack

Jets coach Aaron Glenn on Tuesday sounded both amused and annoyed by the reaction to quarterback Justin Fields' two preseason performances.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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The NY media is going to put him to the test because this offense, specifically the passing offense, is going to be pretty boring and low scoring. As Saleh found out you can only say “We are working on it. We have to do better” for so long.

And I can’t help thinking we should have made a move to get Jaxson Dart.
 
Deepster said:
The NY media is going to put him to the test because this offense, specifically the passing offense, is going to be pretty boring and low scoring. As Saleh found out you can only say “We are working on it. We have to do better” for so long.

And I can’t help thinking we should have made a move to get Jaxson Dart.
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That’s what I said a few posts ago. Maybe push to re-sign Moses for RT, pass on Membou, and pick Dart.

That would probably be too aggressive of a move for a first time GM. Payton did it with Nix, but he had people’s trust.

Of course if Dart came to the Jets…he would have torn his achilles by now…lol.
 
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ShakyTheMohel said:
That’s what I said a few posts ago. Maybe push to re-sign Moses for RT, pass on Membou, and pick Dart.

That would probably be too aggressive of a move for a first time GM. Payton did it with Nix, but he had people’s trust.

Of course if Dart came to the Jets…he would have torn his achilles by now…lol.
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Obviously! LOL
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
That’s what I said a few posts ago. Maybe push to re-sign Moses for RT, pass on Membou, and pick Dart.

That would probably be too aggressive of a move for a first time GM. Payton did it with Nix, but he had people’s trust.

Of course if Dart came to the Jets…he would have torn his achilles by now…lol.
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Nobody knows how to ruin QBs quite like the Jets. It does look like a good QB draft next year.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Nobody knows how to ruin QBs quite like the Jets. It does look like a good QB draft next year.
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I will add they also just have bad luck with injuries..Pennington, Testaverde, Favre, Geno Smith, Rodgers.

I was looking at ESPN’s 2026 mock…and you are right…lots of qbs in the first round. Much better QB draft than this year.

I guess the Jet’s logic…low risk contract with Fields…probably won’t work out with him, but it sets them up to draft a qb in 2026 who will play behind an OL with 3 #1 picks and a #2 pick. Fields can hang around as backup in 2026…or start the season and phase in #1 pick.

Of course I am rooting for Fields to surprise us all.

It just sucks that this season can quickly turn into another”playing for a draft pick” year.
 
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Through my 50 years of torture and misery and disappointment, I see the next 3-5 years as....

1) Fields is a below average (cheap) stopgap answer. He is either hurt in spots (and we have Taylor or worse starting a good chunk of games) or he is a game manager in a low scoring RPO offense.
2) If their OL and defense can flourish and they do better than expectations, then Glenn is safe and they roll the dice drafting a 1st rd QB. That QB then has 3 years to prove himself (a la Darnold or Z Wilson).
3) If Glenn isn't the guy and doesn't last past 3 years? That new young QB has to learn a new HC and OC after 1-2 years in the league. That's been the issue with a lot of young Jets QBs.

If I had to bet? Glenn lasts 4-5 years. They don't draft the franchise QB they need and we're back to right here in the same spot in 2030 and I'm 63 at that point.
 
Deepster said:
Through my 50 years of torture and misery and disappointment, I see the next 3-5 years as....

1) Fields is a below average (cheap) stopgap answer. He is either hurt in spots (and we have Taylor or worse starting a good chunk of games) or he is a game manager in a low scoring RPO offense.
2) If their OL and defense can flourish and they do better than expectations, then Glenn is safe and they roll the dice drafting a 1st rd QB. That QB then has 3 years to prove himself (a la Darnold or Z Wilson).
3) If Glenn isn't the guy and doesn't last past 3 years? That new young QB has to learn a new HC and OC after 1-2 years in the league. That's been the issue with a lot of young Jets QBs.

If I had to bet? Glenn lasts 4-5 years. They don't draft the franchise QB they need and we're back to right here in the same spot in 2030 and I'm 63 at that point.
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I can see that…but I really do think they are set up well to draft a QB first in the draft next year.

- They shouldn’t need OL help…They already have 3 #1 picks on the line
-THey shouldn’t need DL help…Williams, McDonald and Johnson aren’t a perfect group…. but they are solid
- They don’t have a drafted QB on the roster.
- The stink of drafting ZW should have dissipated.
- Mougey hasn’t drafted a QB…he will be given a shot to build his own team
- While they need a WR to pair with GW, it doesn’t make sense to add another top WR if they don’t have a QB.
- Lastly…it’s a strong QB class…there will be many options throughout the first round.

I think unless Fields surprises this year they are heading toward drafting a QB in the first round….and even if Fields is decent, they will still probably draft one.

That all being said…even if they do draft a qb…it won’t work out…lol.
 
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OK…first game on Sunday…I still can’t believe it’s the Steelers of all teams. Word is that the Steelers fans have bought half the tickets. So much for home field.

This game feels like an ugly one. I can’t imagine either offense will look good. While it’s entirely possible that Rodgers puts up 300 yards and 3 tds...it’s more probable that he puts up 200 yards and 2 tds. While it’s entirely possible Fields throws for 225 yrds and 2 TDs. It’s more probable that he puts up 175 yds and 1 TD.

I really don’t like the TJ Watt/Membou matchup. It just feels like they will need another TE in to block and Fields has one less passing option.

I see the Jets struggling to score at all..and the Steelers doing just enough to win the game.

Maybe 20-13 Steelers? I hope I’m wrong…but it’s just hard to be optimistic. But…I am all for being pleasantly surpised by the offense.
 
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After watching today’s UConn debacle…I am hoping the Jets give me some hope tomorrow that this will not be another lost year for me with my football teams.

Alas..I am not optimistic.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
After watching today’s UConn debacle…I am hoping the Jets give me some hope tomorrow that this will not be another lost year for me with my football teams.

Alas..I am not optimistic.
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Glass half full? Field looks composed. Doesn't get hurt. We actually move the ball to drive and score 2-3 TDs. Defense looks fast and mean and Rodgers has a mediocre day (185 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT).

Glass half empty? Offense is 3 and out all day. Fields looks erratic. Breece Hall is invisible. Rodgers picks us apart all day (275 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INT).

It would be nice to be 1-0 with Buffalo on deck. I'll take 0-1 IF they look really prepared and that Glenn has them ready and they play hard all game without mistakes.
 
I hate football.

I will say…the team looked prepared and Fields did more than I thought he would.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
OK…first game on Sunday…I still can’t believe it’s the Steelers of all teams. Word is that the Steelers fans have bought half the tickets. So much for home field.

This game feels like an ugly one. I can’t imagine either offense will look good. While it’s entirely possible that Rodgers puts up 300 yards and 3 tds...it’s more probable that he puts up 200 yards and 2 tds. While it’s entirely possible Fields throws for 225 yrds and 2 TDs. It’s more probable that he puts up 175 yds and 1 TD.

I really don’t like the TJ Watt/Membou matchup. It just feels like they will need another TE in to block and Fields has one less passing option.

I see the Jets struggling to score at all..and the Steelers doing just enough to win the game.

Maybe 20-13 Steelers? I hope I’m wrong…but it’s just hard to be optimistic. But…I am all for being pleasantly surpised by the offense.
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well this was quite the failed prediction. This was not the low scoring defensive battle that people predicted.

I was very disappointed in the Jets defense…especially the secondary other than Sauce.
 
Fields looked great. Very composed. Hall looked great.

And of course they gave up 4 TDs to Rodgers and lost on a 60 yd FG. I hate being a Jets fan.
 
Deepster said:
Fields looked great. Very composed. Hall looked great.

And of course they gave up 4 TDs to Rodgers and lost on a 60 yd FG. I hate being a Jets fan.
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This Pats fan was impressed with Fields. This is the best he's looked as pro. I was a bit surprised the Steelers put up so many points. Didn't see that game as an offensive shootout. Should be encouraging for Jets fans.
 
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I was most impressed with his pocket presence. I thought he'd be a lot more tuck and run and he was not. He is very comfortable in traffic in the pocket with footwork to slide up and let plays develop. And they rushed for 183 yds against a Steeler D that is no pushover.

And, of course, being a true Jets fan I now think the Bills are ripe for a letdown. LOL.

And I didn't want to open a can of worms on the Pats thread, but what were your thoughts on Maye? I didn't watch any of it but was surprised how little they did offensively against LV. And Stevenson/Henderson looks like a true timeshare after 1 week in the box score.
 
Deepster said:
I was most impressed with his pocket presence. I thought he'd be a lot more tuck and run and he was not. He is very comfortable in traffic in the pocket with footwork to slide up and let plays develop. And they rushed for 183 yds against a Steeler D that is no pushover.

And, of course, being a true Jets fan I now think the Bills are ripe for a letdown. LOL.

And I didn't want to open a can of worms on the Pats thread, but what were your thoughts on Maye? I didn't watch any of it but was surprised how little they did offensively against LV. And Stevenson/Henderson looks like a true timeshare after 1 week in the box score.
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Maye made some bad throws (mostly high) and bad decisions (mostly out of frustration). The run blocking was awful. People getting on Mondre, but he was regularly touched behind the LOS. Henderson didn't do anything with his chances either and every pass wide to him was smothered. They have to do better.

My main concern with the offense was Josh. I think that was validated. I love what Vrabel brings, but I wanted some creativity on offense and Josh's game plan was awful. Once we abandoned the run, Maye was seeing double coverage on almost every receiver, nobody got open and hence the bad throws. On defense, the run D was excellent. The pass D really missed Gonzalez and the two TEs (best TE group in football by far, Mayer would start for a lot of teams) torched us.
 
Ok…this was the first game for a head coach and the first game for the OC….so I have decided that a near win is a good thing and not “Same old Jets”.

The Jets offensive scheme looked great…Fields, Hall and Wilson looked comfortable in the scheme…and there is no reason to not believe that they will only get better. The oline looked great..Membou did a great job on Watts.

Still at lot of work to do in the secondary…but I feel that is one place I have confidence that Glenn can make an impact.

Now UConn on the other hand..I am still cranky about that one.
 
Yikes.

Bad offense…bad defense.

Let’s see what Glenn does this week to change things up.
 
1940 to 1994 was only 34 years (NYR). 1986 to whenever is at least 49 years (NYM). 1969 is an eternity, Cubs/Red Sox like, but at least those curses were broken. I'm thinking Joe Namath's attempt to kiss Suzie Kober was the Babe Ruth trade/Billy Goat. May the memory of the Super Bowl III be a blessing . . .
 
dvegas said:
1940 to 1994 was only 34 years (NYR). 1986 to whenever is at least 49 years (NYM). 1969 is an eternity, Cubs/Red Sox like, but at least those curses were broken. I'm thinking Joe Namath's attempt to kiss Suzie Kober was the Babe Ruth trade/Billy Goat. May the memory of the Super Bowl III be a blessing . . .
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Your math is horrendous. LOL
 
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I'm 48 and was alive when McNamara cost the 'Sox the '86 World Series.
 
For whatever it's worth, and I realize I'm trying to find silver linings two weeks in, Membou and Fasano are drawing rave reviews. It sure would be nice to have a couple strong anchors for the next decade, all the while realizing they'll probably drink into each other next week and both need season ending surgeries.

And, is ANYONE surprised that Ty Taylor is starting a game before October 1st?
 
Deepster said:
For whatever it's worth, and I realize I'm trying to find silver linings two weeks in, Membou and Fasano are drawing rave reviews.
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I heard that after the first game…are you hearing that after the second game? If they had a great game against Buffalo…does it make sense that the skil players all got shut down?

I do think that Engstrand got outcoached…and hopefully he learns from this. I knew the offense would struggle with a new OC and a shaky QB. But I am surprised at the D. WIlks and Glenn have a lot of experience and somehow the D looks worse than when Ulbrich was there.
 
Analysis
  • Membou's overall Pro Football Focus (PFF) grade saw a significant decrease from Week 1 (89.1) to Week 2 (63.3), indicating a less effective performance against the Bills.
  • He allowed three pressures and a quarterback hit against the Bills, whereas he allowed zero pressures and zero quarterback hits in Week 1.
  • While his run-blocking performance was initially elite in Week 1, ranking second among all tackles with a 90.3 PFF run-blocking grade, it dipped to 6.3% impact run-block rate in Week 2.
Sep 16, 2025 — Membou saw a sharp decline from Week 1 (89.1 PFF overall grade), recording a 63.3 PFF overall grade against the Bills in Week 2. He had a particularly rough day...

Despite the dip in performance, Membou still ranks highly among rookie tackles in pressure rate allowed (5.4%), PFF run-blocking grade (86.9%), impact run-block rate (18.9%), and defeated rate (5.7%) after Week 2.

My notes: I'll look past the numbers a little. They were down 10-0 before the offense really tied their shoes. In the first 10 minutes of the game, they had 4 plays for 0 yds total. Down 20-3 at the half, the Bills just pinned their ears back. They knew there was no chance of losing that game.

Also, they ran Hall and Allen 12 times....for a team that is supposedly built around the run. Allen has 8 attempts through 2 games after hearing how he stole the spotlight in the preseason. So, I place this more on the coaching staff for being unprepared on both sides of the ball over blaming a rookie executing in a "normal" game.
 
Deepster said:
Analysis
  • Membou's overall Pro Football Focus (PFF) grade saw a significant decrease from Week 1 (89.1) to Week 2 (63.3), indicating a less effective performance against the Bills.
  • He allowed three pressures and a quarterback hit against the Bills, whereas he allowed zero pressures and zero quarterback hits in Week 1.
  • While his run-blocking performance was initially elite in Week 1, ranking second among all tackles with a 90.3 PFF run-blocking grade, it dipped to 6.3% impact run-block rate in Week 2.
Sep 16, 2025 — Membou saw a sharp decline from Week 1 (89.1 PFF overall grade), recording a 63.3 PFF overall grade against the Bills in Week 2. He had a particularly rough day...

Despite the dip in performance, Membou still ranks highly among rookie tackles in pressure rate allowed (5.4%), PFF run-blocking grade (86.9%), impact run-block rate (18.9%), and defeated rate (5.7%) after Week 2.

My notes: I'll look past the numbers a little. They were down 10-0 before the offense really tied their shoes. In the first 10 minutes of the game, they had 4 plays for 0 yds total. Down 20-3 at the half, the Bills just pinned their ears back. They knew there was no chance of losing that game.

Also, they ran Hall and Allen 12 times....for a team that is supposedly built around the run. Allen has 8 attempts through 2 games after hearing how he stole the spotlight in the preseason. So, I place this more on the coaching staff for being unprepared on both sides of the ball over blaming a rookie executing in a "normal" game.
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I was responding to your comment that Membou and Fashanu were drawing rave reviews. Your data shows that in the second game Membou came down to earth. I was in no way blaming the o line for this game.

As I mentioned a couple times now…I put this on the coaching staff. Buffalo watched the Steeler film and adjusted their defense to address. Engstrand couldn’t adjust to those changes and as a result we look inept. It’s his second game as an OC…he can only get better from here.
 
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