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ShakyTheMohel said:
This was expected. The only way he could stay would be if he agreed to a restructured contract. Hopefully Lazard is next.

I liked Adams but I think the Jets are trying to change their culture and Wilson is their future.

But…this is a mostly financial decision.
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You called it. The Rogers appeasement players are being shown the door.

 
HuskyHawk said:
You called it. The Rogers appeasement players are being shown the door.

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Who would sign this guy? He has shown that unless Rodgers is his quarterback, he is an uproductive player. Also…the drops.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Who would sign this guy? He has shown that unless Rodgers is his quarterback, he is an uproductive player. Also…the drops.
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He had a good year with the Raiders and Carr. He won't get a big contract.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
I am talking about Lazard..not Adams. I actually think Adams is still a quality reciever.
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I don't know. WR's hit a wall pretty clearly whether it's injuries or Father Time. AJ Green, Deandre Hopkins, Julio Jones, etc, etc. When you factor in the price tag? I'm not sure there are a ton of teams banging down his door.
 
Deepster said:
I don't know. WR's hit a wall pretty clearly whether it's injuries or Father Time. AJ Green, Deandre Hopkins, Julio Jones, etc, etc. When you factor in the price tag? I'm not sure there are a ton of teams banging down his door.
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He was very good at the end of last year. He probably isn’t a 1 anymore…but he would be a great complement to strong 1.
 
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LIstening to Cimini’s podcast today and he was talking with Charlie Weiss whose son is the OC at Ole Miss. Weiss was raving about Jaxson Dart and saying he is this year’s Bo Nix. A QB who people are ignoring who are actually deserving of a high draft pick.

Other than his physical attributes and the fact he has had like 40 starts at high major programs. he was raving about Dart having ”it”. This made me think back to what evaluators were saying about Zach WIlson. The knock on Zach was his limited starts, especially against top competition. The other knock on Zach was questionable leadership.

So maybe he is onto something with Dart. I also like that as opposed to Nix, Dart is only 21.

I wonder it the Jets will consider taking him at 7.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
LIstening to Cimini’s podcast today and he was talking with Charlie Weiss whose son is the OC at Ole Miss. Weiss was raving about Jaxson Dart and saying he is this year’s Bo Nix. A QB who people are ignoring who are actually deserving of a high draft pick.

Other than his physical attributes and the fact he has had like 40 starts at high major programs. he was raving about Dart having ”it”. This made me think back to what evaluators were saying about Zach WIlson. The knock on Zach was his limited starts, especially against top competition. The other knock on Zach was questionable leadership.

So maybe he is onto something with Dart. I also like that as opposed to Nix, Dart is only 21.

I wonder it the Jets will consider taking him at 7.
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I’m starting to gravitate towards this one.
 
HuskyHawk said:
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I don‘t hate this idea…but if they get Fields…I doubt they draft a QB at 7. You get Fields and you go with him, Taylor and Travis. Then draft a DT, OT or CB at 7 and maybe a QB like McCord in a later round.

If you don’t sign a veteran QB, you draft Dart at 7 and go with Taylor, Dart and Travis.


Either way it’s a crap shoot. And..the Jets usually don‘t win crap shoots.
 
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So here’s a question.

Wilson played in college with Fields. Rodgers brought his guy Adams in last year.

Can Fields improve Wilson’s stats this year over last year with the chemistry and Wilson as the clear #1 option now?
 
IMO, The Jets will need a 2nd or 3rd Rd QB, and hope they hit on a diamond. Fields will probably need a strong running game and defense, which were not exactly strengths last season. I don't think he should have been benched in favor for Russell Wilson, but the Steelers obviously thought Wilson had more to offer than game manager.

I think Fields has a known ceiling, and it's not Franchise QB. Having a history with his college WR certainly helps and he could end up being a late bloomer like Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield, but they didn't have to come of age in the fish bowl of Greater New York City. What this does more than anything is not having to overreach for a QB at #7.

This may seem like a negative post, but I think it's a net positive for the Jets.
 
Husky25 said:
IMO, The Jets will need a 2nd or 3rd Rd QB, and hope they hit on a diamond. Fields will probably need a strong running game and defense, which were not exactly strengths last season. I don't think he should have been benched in favor for Russell Wilson, but the Steelers obviously thought Wilson had more to offer than game manager.

I think Fields has a known ceiling, and it's not Franchise QB. Having a history with his college WR certainly helps and he could end up being a late bloomer like Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield, but they didn't have to come of age in the fish bowl of Greater New York City. What this does more than anything is not having to overreach for a QB at #7.

This may seem like a negative post, but I think it's a net positive for the Jets.
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There are some scouts that think teams are sleeping on Milroe. He needs polish, but they think the talent is there. If I were running the Jets, I'd draft Milroe in round 2 and pair him with Fields who has similar skills. You've now got two guys and you can build an offense that either one can run. Add designed runs, RPOs, roll outs and take advantage of what they can do.

It's weird to me that the league forgets that Lamar needed a custom offense his first few years and couldn't really execute a standard passing offense until two years ago. Fields is a smart gamble with upside and Milroe is a great complement to that.
 
Husky25 said:
IMO, The Jets will need a 2nd or 3rd Rd QB, and hope they hit on a diamond. Fields will probably need a strong running game and defense, which were not exactly strengths last season. I don't think he should have been benched in favor for Russell Wilson, but the Steelers obviously thought Wilson had more to offer than game manager.

I think Fields has a known ceiling, and it's not Franchise QB. Having a history with his college WR certainly helps and he could end up being a late bloomer like Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield, but they didn't have to come of age in the fish bowl of Greater New York City. What this does more than anything is not having to overreach for a QB at #7.

This may seem like a negative post, but I think it's a net positive for the Jets.
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I think the run game is better than you think it might be. The OL is decent with Fashanu as a young foundation. Allen and Hall are as good a 1-2 as most teams can send out. And you shift to more of a RPO type offense with Fields' legs as a weapon they didn't have last year. I think they can actually be a really good running team this year (and Glenn saw Montgomery/Gibbs in Detroit do their thing).
 
Deepster said:
I think the run game is better than you think it might be. The OL is decent with Fashanu as a young foundation. Allen and Hall are as good a 1-2 as most teams can send out. And you shift to more of a RPO type offense with Fields' legs as a weapon they didn't have last year. I think they can actually be a really good running team this year (and Glenn saw Montgomery/Gibbs in Detroit do their thing).
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O-Line health, score, subpar OC, and nutcase for a QB contributed to it, but the Jets run game was ranked #31 or 32 last year in terms of yards, attempts, and Yds/gm, and rushing TDs.

Detroit's o-line was darned good. The running game starts in the trenches, not the backfield.
 
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Deepster said:

Fields signs for 2 years, 40m total, 30m guaranteed. I have NO issues with one. Relatively cheap, high draft pedigree, hopefully a late bloomer and if he's not, move on after 2 years.
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Love this deal for the Jets.

At worst, it's a reasonable bridge deal that wouldn't be hard to move on. At best, the Jets will field an offense similar to the Eagles and Fields develops into the guy. I wanted the Giants to acquire Fields prior to he was traded to Pittsburgh.
 
Deepster said:
So here’s a question.

Wilson played in college with Fields. Rodgers brought his guy Adams in last year.

Can Fields improve Wilson’s stats this year over last year with the chemistry and Wilson as the clear #1 option now?
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they need a solid number number two receiver to help Wilson, but having Fields as his qb has to be a good thing. Hopeully this makes Wilson want to commit long term.
 
Husky25 said:
O-Line health, score, subpar OC, and nutcase for a QB contributed to it, but the Jets run game was ranked #31 or 32 last year in terms of yards, attempts, and Yds/gm, and rushing TDs.

Detroit's o-line was darned good. The running game starts in the trenches, not the backfield.
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# of rushes would impact the yds and yds per game. And the OC or whoever called the plays clearly let Rodgers dictate the run/pass split. Again, I said I'd see more of an RPO focus from Fields leading things and I think you'll see it's better than you thought. Yds per RUSH they were middle of the pack (4.3 and 16th in the NFL - right there with the Bills, Texans, Pats and Bengals).
 
Deepster said:
# of rushes would impact the yds and yds per game. And the OC or whoever called the plays clearly let Rodgers dictate the run/pass split. Again, I said I'd see more of an RPO focus from Fields leading things and I think you'll see it's better than you thought. Yds per RUSH they were middle of the pack (4.3 and 16th in the NFL - right there with the Bills, Texans, Pats and Bengals).
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No question, the Jets will be an improving team f only because the inmates will presumably not be running the asylum.

They took a solid first step by jettisoning Rodgers. If only now they can keep the owner from interfering. A meddling owner who treating his franchise like a game of Madden is constantly searching for the reset button.
 
I think Rodgers retires. If he is smart he will. The only team that really wants him is the Giants. Why would he go to another bad situation like the Jets? He got his 500 tds. a good team doesn't want his baggage. Just retire dude.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
I think Rodgers retires. If he is smart he will. The only team that really wants him is the Giants. Why would he go to another bad situation like the Jets? He got his 500 tds. a good team doesn't want his baggage. Just retire dude.
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I don’t think his ego lets him retire. I think at this point he sits around and waits for a Burrow or Goff to get hurt in the preseason and leeches on to a winner.
 
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Who are they going to draft? It feels like the safe pick is the OT from Missouri. But…using a top 10 pick on a right tackle feels high. I like the idea of drafting TE Warren of PSU. GIves Fields a good outlet when he scrambles and the TE room needs help.

BTW…i love that Glenn and Mougey didn’t kiss Rodgers butt when they met with him. Are the Steelers really gonna want to deal with this guy? I would insist that he stop doing the MacAfee show at least.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Who are they going to draft? It feels like the safe pick is the OT from Missouri. But…using a top 10 pick on a right tackle feels high. I like the idea of drafting TE Warren of PSU. GIves Fields a good outlet when he scrambles and the TE room needs help.

BTW…i love that Glenn and Mougey didn’t kiss Rodgers butt when they met with him. Are the Steelers really gonna want to deal with this guy? I would insist that he stop doing the MacAfee show at least.
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They'd be smart to take a long look at Mason Graham. Why would the Jets kiss Rodgers' butt? They don't owe him anything and he gave them less.

I heard the Steelers are zeroing in on Milroe, who would compete immediately for a starting position in the Steelers' current QB room. I don't think he is a 1st round pick, but it's all relative. Cam Ward may not have been a 1st rounder last season. If the Steelers sign Rodgers and draft Milroe, at least one of Mason Rudolph or Skylar Thompson won't be in the Black and Gold next season. However, Rodgers may also not be open to going to Pittsburgh if they draft Milroe. He is not mentor material and it is a known quantity from his Green Bay days that he is insecure enough to not help but to look over his shoulder.

There is also a positive non-zero percent chance that Rodgers gets Tomlin fired.
 
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Husky25 said:
They'd be smart to take a long look at Mason Graham. Why would the Jets kiss Rodgers' butt? They don't owe him anything and he gave them less.

I heard the Steelers are zeroing in on Milroe, who would compete immediately for a starting position in the Steelers' current QB room. I don't think he is a 1st round pick, but it's all relative. Cam Ward may not have been a 1st rounder last season. If the Steelers sign Rodgers and draft Milroe, at least one of Mason Rudolph or Skylar Thompson won't be in the Black and Gold next season. However, Rodgers may also not be open to going to Pittsburgh if they draft Milroe. He is not mentor material and it is a known quantity from his Green Bay days that he is insecure enough to not like looking over his shoulder.

There is also a positive non-zero percent chance that Rodgers gets Tomlin fired.
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The mocks that I have seen have Graham getting picked before the Jets pick.

I don’t think Rodgers cares anymore about having a top prospect behind him. I can’t imagine him playing beyond a season.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
The mocks that I have seen have Graham getting picked before the Jets pick.

I don’t think Rodgers cares anymore about having a top prospect behind him. I can’t imagine him playing beyond a season.
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He'll care if the prospect has a chance of playing ahead of him. Rodgers is not a team player...like Marcus Mariota for example.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
The mocks that I have seen have Graham getting picked before the Jets pick.

I don’t think Rodgers cares anymore about having a top prospect behind him. I can’t imagine him playing beyond a season.
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If Graham isn’t there, Jalon Walker will be. Jets can improve. Not sure I’d take Membou that high.
 
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Husky25 said:
He'll care if the prospect has a chance of playing ahead of him. Rodgers is not a team player...like Marcus Mariota for example.
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I don’t think anyone thinks Milroe is an instant starter…most think he needs time to learn..like Jordan Love did in GB.

Rodgers is a weird dude..and I am very happy he is gone. But..if you asked Jet players they would say he was a great teammate.
 
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