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The Official 2025 New York Mets thread

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I've been pretty patient and open to seeing the plan play out, but if the rumors of moving Lindor are true then that's out the window
 
Edward Sargent said:
So far it seems that defense and clubhouse are drivers for this years overhaul
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That’s definitely what’s been insinuated but also we just signed Polanco to play defense at a position he’s played 1 game at his entire career. Now maybe he is more Dan Hurley and we sign someone else at 1B but if he’s the everyday 1B it’s a gamble on what his defense is like.

And clubhouse - idk what the dynamics have been but I can’t imagine Alonso, Diaz or Nimmo were bad apples in the clubhouse.
 
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I think Alonso and Nimmo saw further dips in their defense this past year. Diaz I don't know. Wonder if bringing in Soto at such a big number had a negative impact on the other alphas in the clubhouse including Diaz and maybe Lindor
 
lol sorry I realized when I put Dee H it makes it Dan Hurley automatically.

I’m curious to see how it shakes out. Right now for infielders we have :

Polanco
Vientos
Baty
Acuna
McNeil
Semien
Lindor
Mauricio
And Jett Williams waiting in the wings … feels like that’s about 2 or 3 too many. A couple of those guys have to be dealt right ?
 
FanInNC said:
lol sorry I realized when I put Dee H it makes it Dan Hurley automatically.

I’m curious to see how it shakes out. Right now for infielders we have :

Polanco
Vientos
Baty
Acuna
McNeil
Semien
Lindor
Mauricio
And Jett Williams waiting in the wings … feels like that’s about 2 or 3 too many. A couple of those guys have to be dealt right ?
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Vientos to Dan Hurley , Baty, Lindor, Semien and Polanco starting and McNeil roving between OF and IF that leaves Acuna, Mauricio and Williams. I doubt they move Williams so its Acuna and Mauricio and I think maybe Mauricio gets moved - you're right we will see. Note I tried to edit this but it kept converting Dan Hurley to Dan Hurley
 
Crap, I really like Weaver as a player, teammate and guy. Wishing him good luck w/ the Mets.
 
Weaver is a great move, hopefully one more good RP is coming and the bullpen will be a strength
 
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Edward Sargent said:
Vientos to Dan Hurley , Baty, Lindor, Semien and Polanco starting and McNeil roving between OF and IF that leaves Acuna, Mauricio and Williams. I doubt they move Williams so its Acuna and Mauricio and I think maybe Mauricio gets moved - you're right we will see. Note I tried to edit this but it kept converting Dan Hurley to Dan Hurley
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Vientos and Mauricio seem like locks to be moved at some point with all the rumors, and McNeil has no role on this team so I imagine he's gone to anyone who will take that contract
 
navery12 said:
Vientos and Mauricio seem like locks to be moved at some point with all the rumors, and McNeil has no role on this team so I imagine he's gone to anyone who will take that contract
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I think they still like McNeil's versatility
 
lavuuk153 said:
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Question: Is Luke Weaver better than Tyler Rogers? The money and years are negligible and I feel like Rogers might be more consistent.

I recognize I'm overly critical right now, but:

1) Nimmo gone for Semian. Hard to see the overall gain for the next 2-3 years.
2) Alonso getting no offer and signing Polanco supposedly to play 1B.
3) Not wanting Pete or Nimmo paid at 35-36 but paying Semian and Polanco for less production at 35-36.
4) Devin Williams for Diaz.
5) Luke Weaver for Tyler Rogers.

There better be a really big freaking move coming to make this all make sense to me. Right now, we're just not better short term or long term.
 
Deepster said:
Question: Is Luke Weaver better than Tyler Rogers? The money and years are negligible and I feel like Rogers might be more consistent.

I recognize I'm overly critical right now, but:

1) Nimmo gone for Semian. Hard to see the overall gain for the next 2-3 years.
2) Alonso getting no offer and signing Polanco supposedly to play 1B.
3) Not wanting Pete or Nimmo paid at 35-36 but paying Semian and Polanco for less production at 35-36.
4) Devin Williams for Diaz.
5) Luke Weaver for Tyler Rogers.

There better be a really big freaking move coming to make this all make sense to me. Right now, we're just not better short term or long term.
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Weaver is not better, Rogers has been one of the best RPs over the past few years. But he also got 2 years and $26M more than Weaver which I wouldn't call negligible even if I would have paid it.

The rest I think is a little hyper critical, especially this early in the off-season when by all accounts there at least 2-3 big moves and a number of smaller trades still to come.

Semien is a huge upgrade defensively over Nimmo which is what they wanted to do this offseason. It's also 2 less years, opens up LF for their top prospect, and they moved off their worst contract in the process

Alonso not being offered a contract I still don't like. I thought his defensive issues were overblown. But from all the talk Polanco will be the primary Dan Hurley and they're still adding a 1B so that's still TBD.

Semien sure, but Polanco is a 2 year deal for his age 32 and 33 seasons, and he's a very good hitter who can play a bunch of positions when he's not the Dan Hurley.

The bullpen moves are downgrades, there's no denying that. But going from a top 2 closer to a top 5 closer is not the disaster everyone is making it out to be. Weaver to Williams is a more than capable backend combo and better than all but a few teams will have. That's still 2 of the top 20-30 RPs in baseball
 
I guess I feel like this. If I’m going to lose Alonso and Diaz, I hope to feel better about the quality of team on the field in the end.

They’re not close to me feeling like that.
 
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Deepster said:
I guess I feel like this. If I’m going to lose Alonso and Diaz, I hope to feel better about the quality of team on the field in the end.

They’re not close to me feeling like that.
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I think that's premature but a fair opinion right now. But I'll also say that the bar to be better than last year's team is very low and I think they're already there even without other moves. By the end of the offseason they should be the clear #2 to the Dodgers
 
My concern with last years team was starting pitching. We still don't have a front of the rotation starter.
 
David Peterson and Lindor are now the two longest tenured Mets. The core of the team as you knew it is gone.
 
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