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The Official 2025 New York Mets thread

If I were a Mets fan, I'd be pissed that they went 3Y/51M for Devin Williams when they could have resigned Diaz for 3Y/69M.
I think every Mets fan had hopes the Williams signing was the precursor to resigning Diaz. Seeing the Diaz deal, I can't think anything but Stearns completely screwed the pooch on this entire situation.
 
If they follow this up by trading for Trevor Megill and signing Robert Suarez, that's fine. But it's gonna be tough to replace Diaz
 
I think every Mets fan had hopes the Williams signing was the precursor to resigning Diaz. Seeing the Diaz deal, I can't think anything but Stearns completely screwed the pooch on this entire situation.
It is incredibly frustrating because I think Stearns is a good baseball mind, but his moves generally feel much more forward looking than trying to compete now. For a smaller market team this makes sense, but with Cohen's backing I do not think that is necessary. I could see a world where there is a separation before his vision is fully realized and then the next GM seems like a genius because a lot of the groundwork Stearns laid.
 
Coming here to voice all the same frustrations you guys laid out. Can not believe that Diaz only got 3 year and it wasn't with the Mets. With the richest owner in the sport and only costing you 3 years, I can't fathom how the Mets didn't top that offer. He has been fantastic for the Mets, is a fan favorite, has been reliable, he's only 32...I just don't get why you wouldn't give him 3 years. If they got him at 5 years, I totally get it. But 3?

Feels like now we need another reliable arm in the pen, a 1B, a CF and/or LF, a top line starter and probably a Dan Hurley.
 
It is incredibly frustrating because I think Stearns is a good baseball mind, but his moves generally feel much more forward looking than trying to compete now. For a smaller market team this makes sense, but with Cohen's backing I do not think that is necessary. I could see a world where there is a separation before his vision is fully realized and then the next GM seems like a genius because a lot of the groundwork Stearns laid.
Not saying you're wrong, but these comments do feel a little strange to me when he made the NLCS year 1 and then had a huge payroll year 2. It shouldn't be surprising that there's a big shakeup to a roster that showed it can't win. It seems like 90% of fans want Stearns gone when he's one of the best front office executives in baseball
 
Not saying you're wrong, but these comments do feel a little strange to me when he made the NLCS year 1 and then had a huge payroll year 2. It shouldn't be surprising that there's a big shakeup to a roster that showed it can't win. It seems like 90% of fans want Stearns gone when he's one of the best front office executives in baseball
I definitely do not want Sterns gone, but he made the NLCS with a roster mostly in place. I will give him credit that he did a great job building a pitching staff for 2024.
 
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Mets offer was 3/$66M seems insane they let him go for $3M, is what it is
 
Mets offer was 3/$66M seems insane they let him go for $3M, is what it is
And the Mets said they'd go higher. Seems pretty clear that this was a Diaz choice not a Mets choice. So I have no complaints anymore, time to build a bullpen without him
 
With Diaz and formerly with the Nimmo trade, there's a sentiment out there of "They didn't win with this nucleus. Let Stearns do his thing and build the winner his way".

I don't know where I land with that. I know part of my reactions are emotional because I like guys like Nimmo and Diaz (and love Pete) but do I need to disconnect my thinking that way and be a little more blind in just letting them do what they need to do?
 
With Diaz and formerly with the Nimmo trade, there's a sentiment out there of "They didn't win with this nucleus. Let Stearns do his thing and build the winner his way".

I don't know where I land with that. I know part of my reactions are emotional because I like guys like Nimmo and Diaz (and love Pete) but do I need to disconnect my thinking that way and be a little more blind in just letting them do what they need to do?
With Nimmo yes. I think putting aside the fan attachment it was a logical move to make. His contract is not great and only getting worse as his defense declines. You also have Soto locked into a corner OF spot with subpar defense and Benge coming up who are both LH hitters as well. Semien, Lindor, Baty is now a very good defensive infield which should help.

Pete and Diaz, the plan is far less clear so I don't think it's crazy to question the logic. Williams is an elite closer but without adding another elite arm it feels like a step back in the bullpen. The only alternative to Pete I was OK with was Schwarber and he's off the market now so would be disappointed if he's not back
 
I was hoping they would keep Diaz and jettison Petey.
Now they lost Diaz over 1M a year over 3. And with Schwarber gone I am certain this nimrod org will overpay for Alonso. Guaranteed.
 
Kinda feels like a trade or two has to be coming. I don’t really see the make over of this team on the free agent list out there. I’ve seen rumors that we’ve listened to offers about Peterson, McNeil and Senga - I think someone has to go between Vientos, Baty, Acuna and Mauricio as well. Can Stearns cook something up via a trade or two to bring back a big fish that changes the vibe?
 
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Alonso to the Orioles. 5 yrs, 150m.

I’m heartbroken and there’s simply nothing Stearns can do to make up for letting Diaz and Pete go in a 24 hr period. Pete, Diaz and Nimmo? The heart is gutted right out of this franchise.
 
Alonso to the Orioles. 5 yrs, 150m.

I’m heartbroken and there’s simply nothing Stearns can do to make up for letting Diaz and Pete go in a 24 hr period. Pete, Diaz and Nimmo? The heart is gutted right out of this franchise.
If they want to blow it up and reshape the roster in the image of youth then fine I get it. It sucks, but I can understand the vision. However, if they are going to commit to a youth movement why trade Nimmo for aging Semien instead of prospects? Tough offseason so far.
 
If they want to blow it up and reshape the roster in the image of youth then fine I get it. It sucks, but I can understand the vision. However, if they are going to commit to a youth movement why trade Nimmo for aging Semien instead of prospects? Tough offseason so far.

Nah. Why rebuild with Lindor in his prime and paying Soto what you’re paying him to be mediocre for the next 2-3 years?

They don’t have a better offense. Or rotation. Or bullpen. You don’t know if they have a better defense because right now Vientos is replacing Alonso at 1b and we don’t even have a CF outside Taylor. We are better nowhere as of today.
 
If they want to blow it up and reshape the roster in the image of youth then fine I get it. It sucks, but I can understand the vision. However, if they are going to commit to a youth movement why trade Nimmo for aging Semien instead of prospects? Tough offseason so far.
The answer is that nobody was touching Nimmo's contract without sending another big contract back
 
Definitely not better as of today, but luckily it's only December and 95% of the free agents haven't signed. I'm not sure what the plan is but if they go out and sign Bellinger, King/Valdez and Suarez I suddenly feel a lot better about the team. And there's going to be a bunch of trades being made with guys who have no role anymore like McNeil, Mauricio, Acuna
 
Definitely not better as of today, but luckily it's only December and 95% of the free agents haven't signed. I'm not sure what the plan is but if they go out and sign Bellinger, King/Valdez and Suarez I suddenly feel a lot better about the team. And there's going to be a bunch of trades being made with guys who have no role anymore like McNeil, Mauricio, Acuna
Well let's see ONE of those because right now we got bubkus.
 
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Nah. Why rebuild with Lindor in his prime and paying Soto what you’re paying him to be mediocre for the next 2-3 years?

They don’t have a better offense. Or rotation. Or bullpen. You don’t know if they have a better defense because right now Vientos is replacing Alonso at 1b and we don’t even have a CF outside Taylor. We are better nowhere as of today.
I agree that you can not spend 3 years on a rebuild and are worse across the board right now, but can get behind an approach of a reset year. Spend the year to really evaluate the prospects in the majors and then know what your gaps will be going forward and spend a bit more emphatically next offseason.
 
Well let's see ONE of those because right now we got bubkus.
So do 28 other teams. Nobody looks like they have a good team right now except the Dodgers, it's December 10th
 
Ranger Suarez to the Braves. Check another player the Mets were "interested in" off the list. And to a divisional foe.

Wake up, Dollar Store David!
 
Goldschmidt will be signed and platoon with McNeil.
 
Let's not overlook this one. The Blue Jays just signed Rogers.

We gave the Giants RHP José Buttó, RHP Blade Tidwell, and OF Drew Gilbert for him and Rogers pitched 27 innings for us.
 
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Let's not overlook this one. The Blue Jays just signed Rogers.

We gave the Giants RHP José Buttó, RHP Blade Tidwell, and OF Drew Gilbert for him and Rogers pitched 27 innings for us.
Was hoping we'd bring him back but none of those guys are MLB players
 

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