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Seems appropriate to start this one up the day after locking down Pete.

Projected Opening Day Lineup
SS Lindor
RF Soto
1B Alonso
3B Vientos
Dan Hurley Winker
LF Nimmo
CF Siri/Taylor/Marte
2B McNeil/Acuna
C Alvarez

Rotation: Manaea, Senga, Montas, Petersen, Holmes (w. Megill, Canning, Blackburn)

Pen: Diaz, Stanek, Minter, Butto, Garrett

Not a lot of holes anywhere. I feel like the lineup can get back to working pitchers into long counts and getting into the pen early. I’m curious on Montas to see if Hefner can pull a magic trick with him. I’d also love to see Acuna over McNeil all season.
 
Just grabbed tickets to The 7 Line Army section at Fenway on 5/19. I've never sat with them before and I'm fired up about it. Has anyone ever sat in their section and what's it like?
 
Where is everyone? Thoughts on Manaea? I never really counted on Montas. With all the money we spent, is our staff already in big trouble? I would treat Senga with kid gloves all spring.
 
Deepster said:
Where is everyone? Thoughts on Manaea? I never really counted on Montas. With all the money we spent, is our staff already in big trouble? I would treat Senga with kid gloves all spring.
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Killing time before the Hoya game tonight. Better blow those effers away early.

That said, I’m waiting for my Mets spring training cap delivery. That is pretty sharp.
And to answer, yes we are in big trouble pitching wise, and yes, we cannot have nice things. Suddenly we Are going to need Megill, and may need Butto to start.
They were kidding themselves thinking they would not need a 6 man with softy Senga, and now with Montas and Manaea out into April? Yikes.
 
Well, the injuries they keep a coming…. Alvarez now out 6-8 weeks. Tough break, literally. That leaves Torrens to start with non roster invitees in camp to fight it out for back-up. They’ll need To go outside the org, could they get Nido or Narvaez back? I believe they’re under minor league contracts with other clubs.
Paging Mackey Sasser….LOL.
 
On one hand, it’s early. I’m not concerned long term or about the season and I feel like they’ll pick up a stop gap.

On the other hand? Part of me worries about Alvarez and injuries. Is he snakebit?
 
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Deepster said:
On one hand, it’s early. I’m not concerned long term or about the season and I feel like they’ll pick up a stop gap.

On the other hand? Part of me worries about Alvarez and injuries. Is he snakebit?
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He seems to be. He was swinging the bat, not even hit. Then last year injures his hand sliding into second. He’s out until June. That’s a long time. Torrens is better defensively but an auto out. The bottom of the line up, with him and (Mendoza Line) Winker is very shaky.
 
Deepster said:
On one hand, it’s early. I’m not concerned long term or about the season and I feel like they’ll pick up a stop gap.

On the other hand? Part of me worries about Alvarez and injuries. Is he snakebit?
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Their lineup 1-6 is good enough to hopefully cover for him and I think Torrens can hold the fort until June. Having McNeil, Siri, Torrens 7-9 is a scary thought though, hopefully by the time Alvarez comes back the guys at AAA have replaced Siri and McNeil

But I think they need to expect injuries from Alvarez and have a good backup going forward.
 
Well, Huskies season over. With a pit in my stomach spring is here and Mets baseball to console us. Then you look up and see Megill starting game 2, & they’re holding back the fragile china doll Senga (ha) until the second series.
 
I am giving Mendoza and Hefner the benefit of the doubt with the pitching staff until they prove otherwise. Supposedly Megill has been working with Senga on a version of the ghost fork and looked good in the spring (18 Ks/4 BB in 17 IP, 1.16 WHiP).

I also wonder if they struck gold with Holmes and moving him into the rotation. And I'm thinking big season for Petersen. He was great at the end of last season.

Ahhh, the optimism of spring!
 
Deepster said:
I am giving Mendoza and Hefner the benefit of the doubt with the pitching staff until they prove otherwise. Supposedly Megill has been working with Senga on a version of the ghost fork and looked good in the spring (18 Ks/4 BB in 17 IP, 1.16 WHiP).

I also wonder if they struck gold with Holmes and moving him into the rotation. And I'm thinking big season for Petersen. He was great at the end of last season.

Ahhh, the optimism of spring!
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The pitching is one thing I'm not concerned about. Mendoza/Hefner and their new pitching lab has earned them the benefit of the doubt. Even guys like Max Kranick and Griffin Canning who looked like they should be out of the league last year have made huge improvements
 
Knee jerk reactions from Game 1.

I'm gonna fanboy Soto right out of the gates. Other than the last pitch, the guy's command of the strike zone is not human.

With Lindor and Soto in front of Alonso? Buy stock in Alonso now. I don't see how he can't possibly put up monster numbers.

I thought Holmes looked fine. A little wild but battled through most of it. His 3rd run was a horrible DP turn by Acuna so he really would have had a decent line on the day.
 
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Manaea with a setback. I now expect him to not give much, if anything, this season.

Tough start so far. Astros are tough. All road games. Close game losses. Pitching has been okay. But don’t want to somehow dig a hole like last year.
 
An 8-4 start and a 5-1 homestand. Pitching has been great top to bottom and I think both Senga and Holmes will be better as the season goes on. Soto and Lindor in front of Pete is potentially a match for Betts-Freeman-Ohtani.

My one nitpick? Demote Baty. Release Baty. Please do something to get him off the roster and never to return. I cannot take him any more. He's not a major league player.
 
Deepster said:
An 8-4 start and a 5-1 homestand. Pitching has been great top to bottom and I think both Senga and Holmes will be better as the season goes on. Soto and Lindor in front of Pete is potentially a match for Betts-Freeman-Ohtani.

My one nitpick? Demote Baty. Release Baty. Please do something to get him off the roster and never to return. I cannot take him any more. He's not a major league player.
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Luckily McNeil will be back soon and can take Baty's spot and move Acuna into the utility role off the bench. I suspect 2B is the spot they look to add a big bat at the deadline, not sure who's gonna be available there yet though
 
Is Hefner the hidden key to this team? Jesus. He's getting the best out of Megill and Peterson, helped reclimate Manaea, the bullpen is untouchable so far, including guys like Butto and Brazoban. Best pitching stats in the MLB across the board and really no big ticket long contracts like other teams are saddled with right now.
 
Was looking around at lunch and pulled up deGrom's stats.

The last 2 seasons, he started 9 games total, 6 in 2023, 3 in 2024. 2 wins total, both in 2023 with 0 in 2024. Total salary paid over that period? 70 million. He's on the hook with them for this season and 3 more after that at 40m a year.

He's made 3 starts so far this season.
4.0 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 2 HR, 4 BB, 4K
5.2 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 2 HR, 0 BB, 3 K
5.0 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
Total so far = 14.2 IP, 13 H, 7 ER, 4 HR, 6 BB, 13 K, 4.30 ERA

I loved him more than any Mets pitcher ever, but wow did we dodge a bullet with that contract.
 
Deepster said:
I loved him more than any Mets pitcher ever, but wow did we dodge a bullet with that contract.
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I actually watched his first game. He was dealing, a very enjoyable watch. But he's a "stuff" pitcher now.
 
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It’s befitting our manager’s Mendoza as half this squad is hitting below the
“Mendoza Line.” Nice to see Vientos finally do something yesterday.
The pitching has carried us. Diaz is still an adventure, though.
 
Deepster said:
My one nitpick? Demote Baty. Release Baty. Please do something to get him off the roster and never to return. I cannot take him any more. He's not a major league player.
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LOL. YEP. He can drive off in the truck Soto gave him. Let him keep his City Connect NYC uniform. God I hate those.
 
As a lifelong fan of NY sports, I still don’t get the amount of “Soto is unhappy”, “Soto isn’t worth the money” vitriol. They’re in first. They’ve had exciting wins. CitiField is sold out and electric. No Mets fan believes any of that nonsense. How does this have so many legs? So stupid.
 
Jeff McNeil is back for 1 game, and has already cost the Mets 1 win. He cannot be a starting player for this team
 
navery12 said:
Jeff McNeil is back for 1 game, and has already cost the Mets 1 win. He cannot be a starting player for this team
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Unappreciated move by Mendy. He starts McNeil in CF for the first time in a long while. With Holmes pitching. All ground balls. I don’t think McNeil had a single chance in the OF.

And on that note, there was some Yankees chirp about Holmes first outing. Now he’s 3-1 with a 2.60 ERA. Manaea, Senga and Holmes don’t look so bad 1-2-3 and Boone and the Yankees seem to have missed out on a quality starter.
 
Soto thought.

I've watched 95% of the games and Soto's at bats so far. His eye for balls and strikes is super human. He gets on base at an insane rate.

That said? I feel like he misses out on potential hits (and potential doubles or HRs...and yes, potential outs) by not swinging at ANYTHING even an inch off the plate. Like a 3-1 pitch, it's a smidge down and in and he lays off it....then maybe he walks or then grounds out on the 3-2 pitch.

If you look at a guy like Strawberry, he lived off some pitches a little low and in, clubbing them 440 ft. But, you also look at a guy like Bonds who just waited for the one mistake and he hit a HR off it.

Just something I've been thinking when I watch him.
 
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deGrom Update:

His last 3 starts have been more in line with the old Jake.

18.1 IP, 13 H, 1 BB, 20 K, 1.49 ERA, 0.77 WHiP.

On the season he's now 3-3, 26 H, 7 BB, 33 K, 2.79 ERA, 1.02 WHiP
 
Went to the game last night with the 7 Line Army. Obviously not the outcome I wanted (I think I’m on a four game losing streak in person) but if you get the chance to go to a 7 Line event, you gotta go.

They had the whole third floor of Lucky Strike reserved. They sold 1,000 tickets and it was bizzare seeing all those Mets fan in a Boston bar. Around 6:00, we gathered outside for a group picture with a really loud “Let’s go Mets” chant, then we all marched over to the park. The looks and comments from the Boston fans was hilarious. No idea what was going on.

Everyone is super friendly and love sharing 7 Line stories or talking Mets. My daughter was blown away. And the “Let’s go Mets”, “Pete A-Lon-so” chants and signing “My Girl” was really loud. Anytime the Boston fans got ticked we started a “Yankees suck” chant and that pulled us together every time.

As for Fenway? Wow. I hadn’t been there in a long time and it really needs to be rebuilt. It’s so uncomfortable and outdated it’s almost sad. I don’t want to hear about “nostalgia”. It’s not a good fan experience. See the picture attached of where our seats actually point. It’s ridiculous.

All in all, even with the loss, it was a ton of fun and well well worth it.

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Looks like a good time. See those animals on tv and wonder if they behave. LOL.
I can barely fit in the seats at Fenway. I’m Not meant for the 1910 era stadiums.
I was at old Comiskey, that was roomier. Wrigley too.

Can we officially end the Bruce Baty Experience/Experiment? Yeessh…
And top of the lineup did not look so good last night. Wasted a nice start by Senga.
 
Very well behaved. Respectful of the other team but good natured chants and cheering. The one time I winced was a guy in a Jason Tatum jersey walked by and they started a pretty loud "Jalen Brunson" chant. LOL

My buddy recently said it best. Baty is a AAAA player.
 
What’s up with Alvarez?
I bashed him last year. Was never a fan of him, but he came around.
This year, besides his improvement throwing runners out, he has totally regressed to an auto-out. 7 RBIs so far with 3 XBH is abysmal. He should be relegated to back-up to Torrens, no 50/50 split.
 
Alum86 said:
What’s up with Alvarez?
I bashed him last year. Was never a fan of him, but he came around.
This year, besides his improvement throwing runners out, he has totally regressed to an auto-out. 7 RBIs so far with 3 XBH is abysmal. He should be relegated to back-up to Torrens, no 50/50 split.
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He's still recovering from the surgery, the hamate bone takes a long time to recover from even after you're "cleared". It takes away basically all your power, and in most cases takes a full season to come back
 
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