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10-2 in the 4th. All the laggards have come alive.
Need to just throw strikes now. Stop the nibbling.

Pre game Quote of the night by the announcers….If the Dodgers are going back to L.A. we’re (Mets) going with them.
 
Walks kill. 10-5……. This game will be 4 plus hours.
 
Well Alvarez came to life!

Still incredibly difficult to trust anyone from the pen. Hope Manaea can give us 6 or 7 tomorrow.

At this point I’m playing Winker over JD regardless of lefty or righty I think. Maybe Alvy will get it rolling after having a positive night. Taylor’s the man that is due for a big hit now …
 
If Manaea pitches like he has the last few months I like our chances tomorrow night. Especially since we're probably going to get to face their worst relievers.
 
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Sad Ben Affleck GIF
 
Yep. sucks. Knew it was over when they rolled out Senga down 3 in the 8th. Any chance of a miracle comeback ballooned to 6 runs. Good season. Never expected this run.
 
Man, I really need to savor this one. I'll never forget talking about a "dynasty" in 1986, then having Scioscia and Hershiser break my heart. And all these years later, you just don't get many opportunities to feel like we felt the last month.

And you have Pete, Manaea, JD Martinez, Winker and I believe Quintana all question marks.

This one sure did sting.
 
Walks and strands. That team was not nibbling, they were patient and it led to soooo many walks. That led to excess base runners and disaster. And the RISP failure by us especially with < 2 cost us.
The ‘86 team’s run happened in my senior year at UConn. I too, thought many more were coming. Conversely, never, ever, thought the Huskies men would win a natty, let alone 6.
And That is why you have to win it when you get this close.
 
Alum86 said:
Walks and strands. That team was not nibbling, they were patient and it led to soooo many walks. That led to excess base runners and disaster. And the RISP failure by us especially with < 2 cost us.
The ‘86 team’s run happened in my senior year at UConn. I too, thought many more were coming. Conversely, never, ever, thought the Huskies men would win a natty, let alone 6.
And That is why you have to win it when you get this close.
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Look at the bright side - can't blame this on your stars being on drugs and alcohol like '88.
 
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Nice season. Was supposed to be a rebuild year waiting for Scherzer and Ver Landers money to come off the books.

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Of all the pending free agents, I hope Alonso and Manaea are re-signed. Winker would be nice, but he may want a bigger role than the Mets can offer. Let Severino, Martinez, Quintana walk. I'd bring back Stanek and Maton in the bullpen
 
navery12 said:
Of all the pending free agents, I hope Alonso and Manaea are re-signed. Winker would be nice, but he may want a bigger role than the Mets can offer. Let Severino, Martinez, Quintana walk. I'd bring back Stanek and Maton in the bullpen
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How much for Acuna or Gilbert? We have a ton of SP (not Skenes or Jones though).
 
storrsroars said:
How much for Acuna or Gilbert? We have a ton of SP (not Skenes or Jones though).
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Acuna will be the starting 2B opening day and Gilbert will be the CF by July, so sorry not available
 
navery12 said:
Acuna will be the starting 2B opening day and Gilbert will be the CF by July, so sorry not available
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You thinking Vientos 1b, Acuna 2b, Lindor SS, and Mauricio 3b?
 
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Deepster said:
You thinking Vientos 1b, Acuna 2b, Lindor SS, and Mauricio 3b?
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In a perfect world Alonso is at 1B again next year, and then some combination of Mauricio, Vientos, Alonso is at Dan Hurley most days. But I'm not sure how likely that is
 
I think whether Alonso comes back or not depends on what happens with Juan Soto. Cohen clearly has had him on his radar.
 
navery12 said:
Of all the pending free agents, I hope Alonso and Manaea are re-signed. Winker would be nice, but he may want a bigger role than the Mets can offer. Let Severino, Martinez, Quintana walk. I'd bring back Stanek and Maton in the bullpen
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Q and Manaea yes. No Severino. And Alonso has peaked and it’s all downhill from here. But Cohen is an emotional owner, and will pander and throw gobs of money and years at Petey and we’ll have another Bonilla on our hands. Look at JD, that is what Alonso will be shortly. Agree on Stanek and Maton.
 
Alum86 said:
Q and Manaea yes. No Severino. And Alonso has peaked and it’s all downhill from here. But Cohen is an emotional owner, and will pander and throw gobs of money and years at Petey and we’ll have another Bonilla on our hands. Look at JD, that is what Alonso will be shortly. Agree on Stanek and Maton.
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Nah, Alonso is the face of the franchise. I'm not saying you write him a blank check, but offer him 6/$140M and get him back in the middle of the lineup with Juan Soto
 
navery12 said:
Nah, Alonso is the face of the franchise. I'm not saying you write him a blank check, but offer him 6/$140M and get him back in the middle of the lineup with Juan Soto
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He turned down 150 million.
 
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I mean Pete is 29 - JD was 37 - I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. Theoretically Pete’s best years should be happening right now and over the next 3ish years.

My theory on Pete is he puts too much pressure on himself. You see it in something as light hearted as the home run derby, stands to reason in a walk year that he had that lemon booty all season knowing it was a big year for him personally and he struggled under that pressure. I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see him sign a multi year deal, feel relaxed and bounce back to 40-45 home run Pete.

Now I don’t think we need to just sign him to some 10 year deal or something insane, but I know he’s a bit bat to replace. When he is up in the post season you know he can change the game in one swing. That’s a quality few guys have
 
Stearns just talked to the media today to wrap up the season. Big takeaways are they want Alonso back (at the right price), they'll look to add multiple starting pitchers this offseason

  • Want Alonso back (at the right price)
  • Will look to add multiple SPs (TBD whether it's guys already here or external options)
  • TBD where Peterson, Megill, Butto fall in terms of SP or bullpen
  • Mauricio's rehab slower than expected
  • Heavily implies they'll be active in the FA market for Soto
  • There's mutual interest in a reunion with Sean Manaea
  • Will stay in touch with Jesse Winker about a return
 
Alonso for me comes down to how much money Cohen wants to spend this year. If the budget is still 300M, then I don't overly care if he wants to overpay him. If the team is staying near the luxury tax and is closer to 230M then I think there are better ways to allocate the funds. I'd also let him go out and test FA and ask him to come back with his best offer. If it's 8/240, then wish him well. If it's 6/150 then sure bring him back.

I took a look at an article in the Athletic that ranks FA and gives a contract prediction. A few of them and my thoughts.

1. Soto 15/622 - Yes. HoF talents don't hit FA going into their age 26 season.
2. Burnes 7/247 - Probably yes...that feels steep but if they want an ace this seems like the way to go
3. Fried 6/174 - Depends on how his medicals check out but I don't hate this.
4. Alonso 7/204 - I don't think he's worth this and wouldn't be upset if the Mets passed.
5. Snell 3/105 - I love this type of deal. If Snell pitches a full season, he's a Cy Young threat. A bit of a gamble but only 3 years.
6. Manaea and Flaherty 3/68 - putting both here because the prediction is the same. I like both of these.

Semi-related, but I'd give the QO to Alonso, Manaea, and Severino. I don't think Severino is really worth the 21M or so but for 1 year it's fine and if he declines we get a pick back and, again, an overpay of a few million isn't going to hurt Cohen. He paid like 15M total to two catchers who aren't here anymore, not to mention Verlander and Scherzer.
 
I wouldn't touch Burnes or Fried with a 40 foot pole at that price. I trust Stearns to spend wisely and end us up in the same spot for a lot less.
 
Deepster said:
I wouldn't touch Burnes or Fried with a 40 foot pole at that price. I trust Stearns to spend wisely and end us up in the same spot for a lot less.
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Fried I agree with, curious what makes you say that about Burnes. No injury issues and is coming off 5 straight Cy Young caliber seasons
 
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