The Official 2024 NY Jets Thread

[ShakyTheMohel]

Keep him for what? Dress 3 QB's? Put him on the practice squad? Overpay him to not dress and be a non-medical DNP every week? I'd rather draft someone in the 3-4th rd and do that on the cheap.

and do what with zach….eat his $5.5mm salary? I think Johnson doesn’t want to draft or sign a 3rd qb and pay zach $5.5mm to play for someone else.

They probably should just move on…but I get Johnson’s logic.

 

[HuskyHawk]

and do what with zach….eat his $5.5mm salary? I think Johnson doesn’t want to draft or sign a 3rd qb and pay zach $5.5mm to play for someone else.

They probably should just move on…but I get Johnson’s logic.

Unless you can trade him, I'd keep him. He's got tools, he just hasn't learned how to play QB. At some point the QBs will start getting hurt and somebody will trade for him (like Dobbs to Minnesota last year).

 

[Deepster]

Mark my words. If they keep him he WILL be their starting quarterback somehow before Halloween.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

not sure how I feel about the Reddick trade. First…does this mean they don‘t think McDonald can be a starter? he was a questionable pick…if he doesn’t pan out…this will just be another reason Douglas should be unemployed. Second….does this limit their cap room to sign a decent OT backup? Third…this could end up costing them a third round pick a couple years from now.

Reddick is a good player…but I assumed when they let Huff go that they felt comfortable with who they had a DE. I guess not.

 

[Deepster]

not sure how I feel about the Reddick trade. First…does this mean they don‘t think McDonald can be a starter? he was a questionable pick…if he doesn’t pan out…this will just be another reason Douglas should be unemployed. Second….does this limit their cap room to sign a decent OT backup? Third…this could end up costing them a third round pick a couple years from now.

Reddick is a good player…but I assumed when they let Huff go that they felt comfortable with who they had a DE. I guess not.

It’s a one year deal. I wonder if they are not in contention, if they can deal him to a contender and recover something anywhere close to what they gave up.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

It’s a one year deal. I wonder if they are not in contention, if they can deal him to a contender and recover something anywhere close to what they gave up.

In your scenario..thats a bad deal. THere is no way they get a third round pick back for him.

But what do you think this means for McDonald?

 

[Deepster]

In your scenario..thats a bad deal. THere is no way they get a third round pick back for him.

But what do you think this means for McDonald?

I don't know what it speaks to McDonald...even if he could round into something at some point, Reddick is elite NOW and it's clear they're pushing all their chips in for this season as the big run.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I don't know what it speaks to McDonald...even if he could round into something at some point, Reddick is elite NOW and it's clear they're pushing all their chips in for this season as the big run.

i would rather they push their chips in on a backup swing tackle or WR. This team always puts its focus on the DL….when they continue to struggle on offense.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

ok….I think I have changed my position on the draft.

I still think Bowers is the right call (assumes top 3 WR are gone). I really think the OL is good enough and Warren and maybe Bakhtiari could be the swing tackles. I love the idea of a non-traditional TE being a weapon for Rodgers. Creative utilization of Bowers would be a nightmare for DCs to gameplan for.

But…the more I think about Hackett being counted on to be creative with a unique weapon, I realize it would be a wasted pick. The only way this pick would work is if Rodgers himself declares he has an idea how to use Bowers. Hackett is not the guy to take a unique weapon and make it work.

So…i think they should either trade back and try to recoup their second round pick…or just pick the best OL.

 

[Deepster]

One of my good friends is a Packers fan and he said Bahktiari’s knee is shot. I’d love him if he could contribute but I’m not sure he can.

 

[HuskyHawk]

ok….I think I have changed my position on the draft.

I still think Bowers is the right call (assumes top 3 WR are gone). I really think the OL is good enough and Warren and maybe Bakhtiari could be the swing tackles. I love the idea of a non-traditional TE being a weapon for Rodgers. Creative utilization of Bowers would be a nightmare for DCs to gameplan for.

But…the more I think about Hackett being counted on to be creative with a unique weapon, I realize it would be a wasted pick. The only way this pick would work is if Rodgers himself declares he has an idea how to use Bowers. Hackett is not the guy to take a unique weapon and make it work.

So…i think they should either trade back and try to recoup their second round pick…or just pick the best OL.

I think Bowers should be the pick. As a Pats fan, I hope he's not. An impact TE teams have to game plan around is probably the rarest thing in the NFL. They don't come around often. I think they have a bigger impact than a WR because the gap between the top and even the middle tier in the league is huge. OL is hard to project, tons of good ones always come on day 2-3 and take time to develop.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

I think Bowers should be the pick. As a Pats fan, I hope he's not. An impact TE teams have to game plan around is probably the rarest thing in the NFL. They don't come around often. I think they have a bigger impact than a WR because the gap between the top and even the middle tier in the league is huge. OL is hard to project, tons of good ones always come on day 2-3 and take time to develop.

i agree…but my point is that Hackett won’t utilize Bowers’ unique skillset…so why pick him. i guess you fan pick him for the next OC.

 

[Deepster]

Two hours before the draft?

I’m hoping they take one of the top 3 OL.

If they don’t? I hope it’s to get Marvin Harrison Jr if he falls. If they end up with Bowers? I won’t cry but for now? I think an OL helps the team more all day, every play.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Two hours before the draft?

I’m hoping they take one of the top 3 OL.

If they don’t? I hope it’s to get Marvin Harrison Jr if he falls. If they end up with Bowers? I won’t cry but for now? I think an OL helps the team more all day, every play.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

i think this was the right call. if they had a better OC and a healthier OL, i would have picked Bowers. now they should feel confident in the OL this year.

 

[Deepster]

i think this was the right call. if they had a better OC and a healthier OL, i would have picked Bowers. now they should feel confident in the OL this year.

And he could/should be the next Mangold/Mawae type legacy guys even beyond Rodgers.

 

[Husky25]

The Jets could have taken Rodgers' heir apparent. So in that regard, they may have blown it.

OTOH, who knows what the Jets will look like in 2025 in terms of head coach, QB coach, OC, etc? Any QB going to the Jets this year has a legit chance to blow up, and not in a good way with multiple regime changes (Darnold, Wilson).

O-Line was probably the safest bet.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The Jets could have taken Rodgers' heir apparent. So in that regard, they may have blown it.

OTOH, who knows what the Jets will look like in 2025 in terms of head coach, QB coach, OC, etc? Any QB going to the Jets this year has a legit chance to blow up, and not in a good way with multiple regime changes (Darnold, Wilson).

O-Line was probably the safest bet.

You'll probably think I'm a Pats fan trolling, but Spencer Rattler really is a pretty high upside QB option later in the draft. He's one of those guys who could actually be pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints target him to develop behind Carr. But with no 2nd round pick, Jets probably need something else in round 3.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

The Jets could have taken Rodgers' heir apparent. So in that regard, they may have blown it.

OTOH, who knows what the Jets will look like in 2025 in terms of head coach, QB coach, OC, etc? Any QB going to the Jets this year has a legit chance to blow up, and not in a good way with multiple regime changes (Darnold, Wilson).

O-Line was probably the safest bet.

That would make no sense. This is a win now team. They don’t have the luxury of drafting a top quarterback and hoping he pans out. They will probably pick a qb in the later rounds.

They needed insurance this year on the OL and it gives them options next year.

I would say they look WR for their next pick and then QB. But with all the qbs going so early there may not be any decent options left.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

That would make no sense. This is a win now team. They don’t have the luxury of drafting a top quarterback and hoping he pans out. They will probably pick a qb in the later rounds.

They needed insurance this year on the OL and it gives them options next year.

I would say they look WR for their next pick and then QB. But with all the qbs going so early there may not be any decent options left.

i like the WR pick….seems Gipson-esque…but love the YAC. Next….a qb probably.

 

[Deepster]

i like the WR pick….seems Gipson-esque…but love the YAC. Next….a qb probably.

No complaints with this roster heading into camp.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

i like the WR pick….seems Gipson-esque…but love the YAC. Next….a qb probably.

Travis is A perfect fit for the Jets. He seems like a Tyrod Taylor type….so he should have two good mentors as he recovers from his injury and deveops.

I think Douglas has done a good job this draft. It was a little painful having to trade JFM, but hey needed the cap room after trading for Reddick.

 

[Husky25]

That would make no sense. This is a win now team. They don’t have the luxury of drafting a top quarterback and hoping he pans out. They will probably pick a qb in the later rounds.

They needed insurance this year on the OL and it gives them options next year.

I would say they look WR for their next pick and then QB. But with all the qbs going so early there may not be any decent options left.

Pete Prisco from CBS thinks Fashanu is going to sit for a year as well. I'm sure he'll get worked in and may start if an injury claims their aging free-agent tackles, but that doesn't necessarily sound like a win-now pick either.

You were correct with them picking Corley and Travis, but Travis probably won't be ready until mid/late season at the earliest and he has a number of drawbacks. With Tyrod being not too much younger than Rodgers, The Jets next fulltime answer at QB may not be on the 2024 roster.

 

[Husky25]

You'll probably think I'm a Pats fan trolling, but Spencer Rattler really is a pretty high upside QB option later in the draft. He's one of those guys who could actually be pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints target him to develop behind Carr. But with no 2nd round pick, Jets probably need something else in round 3.

I didn't think you were trolling, nor would I have cared. Nice call on the Saints, at any rate.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Pete Prisco from CBS thinks Fashanu is going to sit for a year as well. I'm sure he'll get worked in and may start if an injury claims their aging free-agent tackles, but that doesn't necessarily sound like a win-now pick either.

You were correct with them picking Corley and Travis, but Travis probably won't be ready until mid/late season at the earliest and he has a number of drawbacks. With Tyrod being not too much younger than Rodgers, The Jets next fulltime answer at QB may not be on the 2024 roster.

i hope Fashanu sits for the year….but watching the Jets OL the last couple years, makes me think otherwise. THey played something like 11 linemen in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Of course with Becton and Brown gone, that should get better. But even AVT has gone down twice now for season ending injuries.

Do I think they could have picked someone else who was more impactful this season…probably…and if one of the big 3 receivers was there at 10…they would have picked them. If they had a creative OC…..they may have considered Bowers.

Rodgers says he is playing at least two more years. They don’t need the next qb on the roster right now.