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Deepster said:
It’s a one year deal. I wonder if they are not in contention, if they can deal him to a contender and recover something anywhere close to what they gave up.
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In your scenario..thats a bad deal. THere is no way they get a third round pick back for him.

But what do you think this means for McDonald?
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
In your scenario..thats a bad deal. THere is no way they get a third round pick back for him.

But what do you think this means for McDonald?
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I don't know what it speaks to McDonald...even if he could round into something at some point, Reddick is elite NOW and it's clear they're pushing all their chips in for this season as the big run.
 
Deepster said:
I don't know what it speaks to McDonald...even if he could round into something at some point, Reddick is elite NOW and it's clear they're pushing all their chips in for this season as the big run.
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i would rather they push their chips in on a backup swing tackle or WR. This team always puts its focus on the DL….when they continue to struggle on offense.
 
ok….I think I have changed my position on the draft.

I still think Bowers is the right call (assumes top 3 WR are gone). I really think the OL is good enough and Warren and maybe Bakhtiari could be the swing tackles. I love the idea of a non-traditional TE being a weapon for Rodgers. Creative utilization of Bowers would be a nightmare for DCs to gameplan for.

But…the more I think about Hackett being counted on to be creative with a unique weapon, I realize it would be a wasted pick. The only way this pick would work is if Rodgers himself declares he has an idea how to use Bowers. Hackett is not the guy to take a unique weapon and make it work.

So…i think they should either trade back and try to recoup their second round pick…or just pick the best OL.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
ok….I think I have changed my position on the draft.

I still think Bowers is the right call (assumes top 3 WR are gone). I really think the OL is good enough and Warren and maybe Bakhtiari could be the swing tackles. I love the idea of a non-traditional TE being a weapon for Rodgers. Creative utilization of Bowers would be a nightmare for DCs to gameplan for.

But…the more I think about Hackett being counted on to be creative with a unique weapon, I realize it would be a wasted pick. The only way this pick would work is if Rodgers himself declares he has an idea how to use Bowers. Hackett is not the guy to take a unique weapon and make it work.

So…i think they should either trade back and try to recoup their second round pick…or just pick the best OL.
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I think Bowers should be the pick. As a Pats fan, I hope he's not. An impact TE teams have to game plan around is probably the rarest thing in the NFL. They don't come around often. I think they have a bigger impact than a WR because the gap between the top and even the middle tier in the league is huge. OL is hard to project, tons of good ones always come on day 2-3 and take time to develop.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I think Bowers should be the pick. As a Pats fan, I hope he's not. An impact TE teams have to game plan around is probably the rarest thing in the NFL. They don't come around often. I think they have a bigger impact than a WR because the gap between the top and even the middle tier in the league is huge. OL is hard to project, tons of good ones always come on day 2-3 and take time to develop.
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i agree…but my point is that Hackett won’t utilize Bowers’ unique skillset…so why pick him. i guess you fan pick him for the next OC.
 
Two hours before the draft?

I’m hoping they take one of the top 3 OL.

If they don’t? I hope it’s to get Marvin Harrison Jr if he falls. If they end up with Bowers? I won’t cry but for now? I think an OL helps the team more all day, every play.
 
Deepster said:
Two hours before the draft?

I’m hoping they take one of the top 3 OL.

If they don’t? I hope it’s to get Marvin Harrison Jr if he falls. If they end up with Bowers? I won’t cry but for now? I think an OL helps the team more all day, every play.
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i think this was the right call. if they had a better OC and a healthier OL, i would have picked Bowers. now they should feel confident in the OL this year.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
i think this was the right call. if they had a better OC and a healthier OL, i would have picked Bowers. now they should feel confident in the OL this year.
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And he could/should be the next Mangold/Mawae type legacy guys even beyond Rodgers.
 
The Jets could have taken Rodgers' heir apparent. So in that regard, they may have blown it.

OTOH, who knows what the Jets will look like in 2025 in terms of head coach, QB coach, OC, etc? Any QB going to the Jets this year has a legit chance to blow up, and not in a good way with multiple regime changes (Darnold, Wilson).

O-Line was probably the safest bet.
 
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Husky25 said:
The Jets could have taken Rodgers' heir apparent. So in that regard, they may have blown it.

OTOH, who knows what the Jets will look like in 2025 in terms of head coach, QB coach, OC, etc? Any QB going to the Jets this year has a legit chance to blow up, and not in a good way with multiple regime changes (Darnold, Wilson).

O-Line was probably the safest bet.
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You'll probably think I'm a Pats fan trolling, but Spencer Rattler really is a pretty high upside QB option later in the draft. He's one of those guys who could actually be pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints target him to develop behind Carr. But with no 2nd round pick, Jets probably need something else in round 3.
 
Husky25 said:
The Jets could have taken Rodgers' heir apparent. So in that regard, they may have blown it.

OTOH, who knows what the Jets will look like in 2025 in terms of head coach, QB coach, OC, etc? Any QB going to the Jets this year has a legit chance to blow up, and not in a good way with multiple regime changes (Darnold, Wilson).

O-Line was probably the safest bet.
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That would make no sense. This is a win now team. They don’t have the luxury of drafting a top quarterback and hoping he pans out. They will probably pick a qb in the later rounds.

They needed insurance this year on the OL and it gives them options next year.

I would say they look WR for their next pick and then QB. But with all the qbs going so early there may not be any decent options left.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
That would make no sense. This is a win now team. They don’t have the luxury of drafting a top quarterback and hoping he pans out. They will probably pick a qb in the later rounds.

They needed insurance this year on the OL and it gives them options next year.

I would say they look WR for their next pick and then QB. But with all the qbs going so early there may not be any decent options left.
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i like the WR pick….seems Gipson-esque…but love the YAC. Next….a qb probably.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
i like the WR pick….seems Gipson-esque…but love the YAC. Next….a qb probably.
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Travis is A perfect fit for the Jets. He seems like a Tyrod Taylor type….so he should have two good mentors as he recovers from his injury and deveops.

I think Douglas has done a good job this draft. It was a little painful having to trade JFM, but hey needed the cap room after trading for Reddick.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
That would make no sense. This is a win now team. They don’t have the luxury of drafting a top quarterback and hoping he pans out. They will probably pick a qb in the later rounds.

They needed insurance this year on the OL and it gives them options next year.

I would say they look WR for their next pick and then QB. But with all the qbs going so early there may not be any decent options left.
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Pete Prisco from CBS thinks Fashanu is going to sit for a year as well. I'm sure he'll get worked in and may start if an injury claims their aging free-agent tackles, but that doesn't necessarily sound like a win-now pick either.

You were correct with them picking Corley and Travis, but Travis probably won't be ready until mid/late season at the earliest and he has a number of drawbacks. With Tyrod being not too much younger than Rodgers, The Jets next fulltime answer at QB may not be on the 2024 roster.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
You'll probably think I'm a Pats fan trolling, but Spencer Rattler really is a pretty high upside QB option later in the draft. He's one of those guys who could actually be pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints target him to develop behind Carr. But with no 2nd round pick, Jets probably need something else in round 3.
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I didn't think you were trolling, nor would I have cared. Nice call on the Saints, at any rate.
 
Husky25 said:
Pete Prisco from CBS thinks Fashanu is going to sit for a year as well. I'm sure he'll get worked in and may start if an injury claims their aging free-agent tackles, but that doesn't necessarily sound like a win-now pick either.

You were correct with them picking Corley and Travis, but Travis probably won't be ready until mid/late season at the earliest and he has a number of drawbacks. With Tyrod being not too much younger than Rodgers, The Jets next fulltime answer at QB may not be on the 2024 roster.
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i hope Fashanu sits for the year….but watching the Jets OL the last couple years, makes me think otherwise. THey played something like 11 linemen in 2022 and 12 in 2023. Of course with Becton and Brown gone, that should get better. But even AVT has gone down twice now for season ending injuries.

Do I think they could have picked someone else who was more impactful this season…probably…and if one of the big 3 receivers was there at 10…they would have picked them. If they had a creative OC…..they may have considered Bowers.

Rodgers says he is playing at least two more years. They don’t need the next qb on the roster right now.
 
Husky25 said:
Pete Prisco from CBS thinks Fashanu is going to sit for a year as well. I'm sure he'll get worked in and may start if an injury claims their aging free-agent tackles, but that doesn't necessarily sound like a win-now pick either.

You were correct with them picking Corley and Travis, but Travis probably won't be ready until mid/late season at the earliest and he has a number of drawbacks. With Tyrod being not too much younger than Rodgers, The Jets next fulltime answer at QB may not be on the 2024 roster.
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So the Pats nailed the entire draft even when Mayes fundamentals have glaring holes per the pundits.

And the Jets flopped.

Got it.
 
Deepster said:
So the Pats nailed the entire draft even when Mayes fundamentals have glaring holes per the pundits.

And the Jets flopped.

Got it.
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Said by me, nowhere.

But now that you brought the red herring up, it's absolutely a matter of perspective.

I did say that the Jets may have stepped in it by allowing the Vikings to select a potential Rodgers replacement in front of them, but as @ShakyTheMohel mentioned, the Jets are in "Win-now" mode and the current brain trust went all in by acquiring Rodgers before last season. If it doesn't work out, who knows what the next regime would think of JJM, had they picked him. Given that, Fashanu was the better (if not sexy) call, even considering the various "pundits" noting that he may not play starters' snaps in year one.

The Corley pick fills a need and they got their QB project. Not sure how crazy I'd be selecting two running backs for a win-now franchise, particularly with Breece Hall in the backfield and a handful of affordable free agents still available. The Jets did okay, but it remains to be seen if their draft satisfies win-now. They really need their 40 year old starting QB, coming off a serious leg injury and possible (more than a) touch of CTE, to return to his former MVP caliber self.

The Patriots are in Improve-now mode and that begins on the offense. Drake Maye spent the last five months by being talked about as the 2nd QB off the board. The Patriots needed a QB and even if he sits for a portion (large or small) in 2024, it doesn't matter. They have a quality bridge in Jacoby Brissett. They still don't have a go-to receiver, let alone a #1, who scares DCs, but the two receivers selected should compete for snaps right away and should improve with experience, as well as offensive linemen. The Patriots' offense failed to find the endzone in 5 games last season. The D will be serviceable again, if only because they won't be asked to pitch shutouts, which is a near impossibility in today's NFL.

TL : DR? The Jets did not flop, but I believe the Patriots did better at this particular time and place, and with the respective resources at their disposal. Non of the three area teams approached Washington, who killed it.
 
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So Rodgers and Reddick aren’t attending mandatory mini camp. That’s annoying.

They say Rodgers has another commitment that was important to him. I thought he said the Jets need to eliminate distractions?

Reddick’s failure to attend is puzzling. Douglas had to know that there were contract issues when they traded for him. Trading for him instead of signing Huff was a mystery to start with. Then they trade JFM. I hope Douglas knows what he is doing.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
So Rodgers and Reddick aren’t attending mandatory mini camp. That’s annoying.

They say Rodgers has another commitment that was important to him. I thought he said the Jets need to eliminate distractions?

Reddick’s failure to attend is puzzling. Douglas had to know that there were contract issues when they traded for him. Trading for him instead of signing Huff was a mystery to start with. Then they trade JFM. I hope Douglas knows what he is doing.
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I always feel like these mini camp things aren't an issue until later on when there's an issue? You point back and say "I knew something was wrong when he missed mini camp". I'm far less worried about Rodgers. He is basically running the team and doing whatever he wants. Just keep him upright.
 
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Deepster said:
I always feel like these mini camp things aren't an issue until later on when there's an issue? You point back and say "I knew something was wrong when he missed mini camp". I'm far less worried about Rodgers. He is basically running the team and doing whatever he wants. Just keep him upright.
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Yeah….i agree Rodger’s absence is probably ok. He has done the other offseason stuff. And the team has said good things about his leadership.

From what I have read…it appears the Jets thought they were on the same page as Reddick and that they would play out the season and figure out his contract then. But something changed. Not a good start for his tenure with the Jets.
 
I have stated my displeasure with Aaron Rodger’s actions off the field…but when it comes to salary…he is a team guy. As opposed to Reddick. It’s hard to believe that Daniel Jones has a higher salary than him.

 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Sounds like someone is giving him bad advice…

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two weeks later and still no Reddick. Douglas is looking like a fool here. Reddick knows the Jets are all in for this season. He is rolling the dice that they will cave.

Jets are saying they won’t negotiate until he gets to camp…Reddick says he isn’t reporting without a new deal.

Who blinks first.
 
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