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not 1 post after the TG loss. How empty will MetLife be for the 3 Dec. home games?
 
Good for Tim Boyle, but it's never a good thing for a team to be on their 4th QB.

Elsewhere around the NFC East...The Eagles keep rolling with Saquon and Hurts, The refs did their best to give the Commanders win to the Saints, and the Cowboys kept their slim playoff hopes (which I believe will be dashed by the Bucs next weekend) alive.
 
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Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
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Pats fan here, but I agree. Was a little surprised they didn't take McCarthy. I'm not sold on those two as top 5 picks. My guess is somebody else from this class will end up the best QB. Carson Beck won't be a star but could be a Derek Carr level QB. Lots of experience. Knows how to play. Milroe is a great athlete but has Justin Fields level accuracy and processing. Drew Allar is a pocket passer, but honestly a damned good one. Fifteen years ago he'd go first.

If the board sets up that Allar or Beck are second day guys, wait and take one. Worst case you have a solid young backup for the guy you take in 26.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
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No you’re taking a qb with a top 2 pick, Sanders or Ward it is, you could sign a stop gap qb to a 1 year deal. How long does it take to build a team 50 years. Allar and Beck don’t intrigue me. Sanders and Ward are better then Allar and Beck.

Just address the Oline, the line is improved while not very good, losing your franchise tackle Andrew will make your line significantly worse.
 
You tell teams you are willing to listen and you see if anyone goes nuts while keeping your pick somewhere in the top 10.
Unless you think the two QBs are almost guaranteed to be your franchise qbs for 10 years but man you never know with these qbs sometimes.
I still remember that story that Elway was gonna give us a haul to move up just a few spots and gettleman wouldn't pick up the phone because he was locked into Barkley.
Maddening.
 
The Viking said:
You tell teams you are willing to listen and you see if anyone goes nuts while keeping your pick somewhere in the top 10.
Unless you think the two QBs are almost guaranteed to be your franchise qbs for 10 years but man you never know with these qbs sometimes.
I still remember that story that Elway was gonna give us a haul to move up just a few spots and gettleman wouldn't pick up the phone because he was locked into Barkley.
Maddening.
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Well ya who doesn’t listen to offers everyone does except Gettleman, a quarterback vs a running back not a good comparison not to mention there is no qb in the plans on the current roster. Any move is a risk so pass on a qb and they become franchise qbs then what. It shouldn’t take decade to find a qb.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
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You'll need a trade partner willing to give up a massive haul and all the other teams probably feel the same about the QBs as the Giants do.

Maybe another team who already has a QB wants to move up for a cornerstone LT or DE or CB, but I haven't really heard of any to that caliber.
 
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Husky25 said:
You'll need a trade partner willing to give up a massive haul and all the other teams probably feel the same about the QBs as the Giants do.

Maybe another team who already has a QB wants to move up for a cornerstone LT or DE or CB, but I haven't really heard of any to that caliber.
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This is a defense first draft. I do think Ward and Sanders probably go 1-2 in some order but the best players are mostly on defense. Hunter is likely top 5 as an elite WR and very good CB.
 
Well we now have a QB that can throw TDs! Unfortunately today two of them were to the other team
 
I am hoping the pick gets traded. Build an offensive line before you bring in a stud QB. First are Schoen and Daboll gone?
 
Edward Sargent said:
I am hoping the pick gets traded. Build an offensive line before you bring in a stud QB. First are Schoen and Daboll gone?
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lol let's build an offensive line for the next 5 years then draft a qb, no your drafting a qb. You never pass on a stud qb.
 
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I do hope I am wrong (as I believe they will draft one of Sanders/Ward) but I don't see either of the projected first round QBs as an NFL QB.

My belief is that drafting a QB early who doesn't work out sets a franchise back 3-4 years so unless you are convinced he's the right guy, you're better off picking the best player on your board and delaying the QB pick.

I also believe that if you are in a position where a QB will most likely fail (where the Giants have been for too long) it wont matter what QB you chose as you will ruin him.

We do have some linemen now (not enough yet) and a weapon at WR finally so we may be able to get a QB to succeed, but again, I'm not sure he's available in this draft.

We almost definitely will draft Watd or Sanders and possible end up on the three year treadmill the Jets saw with Darnold and Wilson.
 
Scoe said:
lol let's build an offensive line for the next 5 years then draft a qb, no your drafting a qb. You never pass on a stud qb.
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Do you think the stud is in this years draft? If not trade the pick and draft O line.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
I do hope I am wrong (as I believe they will draft one of Sanders/Ward) but I don't see either of the projected first round QBs as an NFL QB.

My belief is that drafting a QB early who doesn't work out sets a franchise back 3-4 years so unless you are convinced he's the right guy, you're better off picking the best player on your board and delaying the QB pick.

I also believe that if you are in a position where a QB will most likely fail (where the Giants have been for too long) it wont matter what QB you chose as you will ruin him.

We do have some linemen now (not enough yet) and a weapon at WR finally so we may be able to get a QB to succeed, but again, I'm not sure he's available in this draft.

We almost definitely will draft Watd or Sanders and possible end up on the three year treadmill the Jets saw with Darnold and Wilson.
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Darnold wasn’t the problem With the Jets
 
Edward Sargent said:
Do you think the stud is in this years draft? If not trade the pick and draft O line.
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Yes I do, I want Shedeur Sanders he's everything this franchise needs. They need a leader who will force change and who can handle the spotlight. The line isn't good but it has improved you can still address the line the rest of the draft.

Erick Flowers and Evan Neal were 1st rd busts btw, any move you make is a risk. You have a top 2 pick you need to take a qb, it's not a reach Sanders and Ward are projected to be in the top 2, and a Raiders win today puts Giants in very good position for the number 1 pick.
 
Scoe said:
Yes I do, I want Shedeur Sanders he's everything this franchise needs. They need a leader who will force change and who can handle the spotlight. The line isn't good but it has improved you can still address the line the rest of the draft.

Erick Flowers and Evan Neal were 1st rd busts btw, any move you make is a risk. You have a top 2 pick you need to take a qb, it's not a reach Sanders and Ward are projected to be in the top 2, and a Raiders win today puts Giants in very good position for the number 1 pick.
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Sanders and Ward would not be top 10 picks in last years draft. I think they should tank another year and go to 26
 
FfldCntyFan said:
We almost definitely will draft Watd or Sanders and possible end up on the three year treadmill the Jets saw with Darnold and Wilson.
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The Giants and Jets have the same problem and it's not even at field level on Sundays. Both of their problems sit above the mezzanine.
 
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I hate professional sports it's just so stupid to be in this position. NFL really does need a lottery system more then any other sport.
 
Scoe said:
I hate professional sports it's just so stupid to be in this position. NFL really does need a lottery system more then any other sport.
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Nah. NBA needs it most because no one football player has close to the impact as a star In the NBA. There’s no obvious guy this year anyway. Pats currently at #1 and there isn’t anybody in this draft worth the pick.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Nah. NBA needs it most because no one football player has close to the impact as a star In the NBA. There’s no obvious guy this year anyway. Pats currently at #1 and there isn’t anybody in this draft worth the pick.
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NFL needs it the most because it's fewer games, one week has huge implications on the draft and playoff picture, if let's say a team who loses in week 17 gets the number 1 pick vs a team who needs to win getting homefield in playoffs or a team needing to win to get into the playoffs.

Think of the ratings if you had the draft lottery on let's say a Thursday or Friday night the week of the pro bowl.
 
Giants cant even tank!! So now Giants think they have their QB of the future in Drew Lock and offer him Daniel Jones money. God awful team from top to bottom
 
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