The Official 2024 NY Giants Thread

[CCSUblue]

My brother and I are both love long Giants fans and went to our first ever game at the Meadowlands yesterday. Was such a fun game to watch in person. Giants scored in a variety of ways and showed that they are capable. Nabers and Tracy becoming one of a few rookie pairs to gain 1000yds from scrimmage was cool to see.

Not bothered by the win as there are several capable veteran QBs poised to hit the open market that can be a stop gap until a viable young QB is brought in.

 

[Husky25]

Not bothered by the win as there are several capable veteran QBs poised to hit the open market that can be a stop gap until a viable young QB is brought in.

Curious as to who. Cap casualties notwithstanding, nearly every 2025 FA is a back-up, and while I can't see Cleveland re-signing Winston, slim pickings remain otherwise. None of whom scare DCs worth their salt. Also, I don't think anyone wants to play in metro New York just because it's New York.

Darnold is rumored to be re-signed in MN. Trey Lance couldn't beat out Cooper Rush once Dak went down (Both of whom are FA). Brissette will be working in his 4th offense in as many years and is not a viable bridge for more than a month or so...if that.

It looks to me that the Giants' options are basically re-sign Drew Lock, Marcus Mariota (unless he reups with WSH), Justin Fields, Jameis Winston, or Mac Jones.

Draftwise, the Giants are now in a draft slot where picking a QB is not a wild notion. NE is set at QB and there is a lot of smoke around Travis Hunter. I could also see them picking a tackle or trying to trade back. On the other hand, Will Levis has demonstrated that he is probably not the guy in Tenn. CLE is also in the market for a young QB as they attempt to reset their salary cap. So the Giants are still 3rd in line. If Cam Ward PFF-19) and Shedeur Sanders (PFF-29) are off the board, would the Giants overdraft Jalen Milroe or Dillon Gabriel by a round and a half? They have a lot of holes, but (like the Patriots) need a trading partner to move back. If they stay where they are I see them taking an OT.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Curious as to who. Cap casualties notwithstanding, nearly every 2025 FA is a back-up, and while I can't see Cleveland re-signing Winston, slim pickings remain otherwise. None of whom scare DCs worth their salt. Also, I don't think anyone wants to play in metro New York just because it's New York.

Darnold is rumored to be re-signed in MN. Trey Lance couldn't beat out Cooper Rush once Dak went down (Both of whom are FA). Brissette will be working in his 4th offense in as many years and is not a viable bridge for more than a month or so...if that.

It looks to me that the Giants' options are basically re-sign Drew Lock, Marcus Mariota (unless he reups with WSH), Justin Fields, Jameis Winston, or Mac Jones.

Draftwise, the Giants are now in a draft slot where picking a QB is not a wild notion. NE is set at QB and there is a lot of smoke around Travis Hunter. I could also see them picking a tackle or trying to trade back. On the other hand, Will Levis has demonstrated that he is probably not the guy in Tenn. CLE is also in the market for a young QB as they attempt to reset their salary cap. So the Giants are still 3rd in line. If Cam Ward PFF-19) and Shedeur Sanders PFF-29 are off the board, would the Giants overdraft Jalen Milroe or Dillon Gabriel by a round and a half? They have a lot of holes, but (like the Patriots) need a trading partner to move back. If they stay where they are I see them taking an OT.

If Darnold signs with Minnesota, there's a chance they put JJ McCarthy on the market (my guess is they won't until he comes back healthy). Fields may still be worth a shot. We Patriots fans are hoping one of Giants/Titans/Browns/Raiders is willing to trade up. Hunter is good, but not at #1. Jets need a QB too. Going to be interesting. Carson Beck is worth a day two gamble.

 

[navery12]

Draftwise, the Giants are now in a draft slot where picking a QB is not a wild notion.

Couldn't disagree more. Taking a QB at 4 would be certifiably insane

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Many may disagree but (as long as they don't trade back into the top spot and give up additional premium draft picks) I am not upset about yesterday's outcome.

I have serious reservations on the two QBs (who are the only QBs projected to be first round picks) and I don't believe the situation with the Giants at the moment can develop someone who would be thrown into the fire immediately.

There are a couple (not Beck) kids who should last until the third round who may develop, but if greater importance, the Giants aren't in a position where they can take a stab, using a premium pick to hope they get a QB. Build out the defense, get a couple more players on offense this year, bring in a short term vet QB, then look at next year's QB class.

Having basically nothing to show for ten of their last twelve first round draft picks is why they are at the bottom of the league.

 

[husky8273]

maybe a blessing but Cox all week showed Giants-Eagles on CBS at 1pm but just changed to the Patriots-Bills.

 

[Scoe]

Eagles are gonna let the Giants win today, they are scumbags like that. It's the Giants own damn fault though for being so stupid screwing up prime position to getting the number 1 pick. Giants also would've had the top pick in every round I believe.

 

[navery12]

 

[HuskyHawk]

Dan O approves

 

[Scoe]

How could anybody be optimistic that the Giants are gonna get this right.

 

[Waquoit]

Good way to start the new season

Ended up setting the tone

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Looks like it’s gonna be best player available at 3, Tennessee and Cleveland both need QBs. Would be happy with Hunter, elite talent on both sides of the ball. Hopefully we can sign a decent QB.

 

[Husky25]

How could anybody be optimistic that the Giants are gonna get this right.

And now it comes out that the Shedeur Sanders may not even be a 1st round level QB, let alone top 5 pick material.

Then again, even though he won the Heisman, Jayden Daniels seemingly came out of nowhere to be the 2nd pick and probably ORoY.

The draft is still a long way off.

 

[Deepster]

Why would the Giants want Hunter with Nabers already in the fold? Wouldn’t that be an awful lot of money invested in a WR and WR/CB?

 

[Husky25]

Why would the Giants want Hunter with Nabers already in the fold? Wouldn’t that be an awful lot of money invested in a WR and WR/CB?

I think it depends on where he's rated as a CB (Pratty darned good, so I hear). Getting a lockdown corner can transform a pass defense. On the other hand, rare is the rookie corner who comes into the league as a shutdown. It typically takes a season or two. If he's going to primarily be split out wide, I agree. Look somewhere else. The Giants have the "luxury" of having needs all over the field.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Why would the Giants want Hunter with Nabers already in the fold? Wouldn’t that be an awful lot of money invested in a WR and WR/CB?

Because whoever is QB is gonna need weapons. Nabers is great, Tracy looks to be a steal, but we have like no one else on offense. Our TE’s are mediocre, Slayton is gone, Wandale is fine, no other WR talent to speak of.

 

[Deepster]

Because whoever is QB is gonna need weapons. Nabers is great, Tracy looks to be a steal, but we have like no one else on offense. Our TE’s are mediocre, Slayton is gone, Wandale is fine, no other WR talent to speak of.

I get that but once the rookie deals are up you’re going to have a large percent of salary invested at WR. Look at how cincy can’t keep Higgins and Chase and had to let mixon go. Or the cowboys with Dak and Lamb and now struggling to sign Parsons.

 

[navery12]

Why would the Giants want Hunter with Nabers already in the fold? Wouldn’t that be an awful lot of money invested in a WR and WR/CB?

I have no problem investing that much money into WR. I don't want Hunter but not for that reason. I think the chances of him playing both sides of the ball are very slim. And if you take that out of the equation he's neither the best WR or best CB available

 

[Deepster]

I have no problem investing that much money into WR. I don't want Hunter but not for that reason. I think the chances of him playing both sides of the ball are very slim. And if you take that out of the equation he's neither the best WR or best CB available

That's fine, but with no QB right now, that means if you wanted to keep Hunter and Nabers:

a) You can't sign a good FA QB,
b) You have to find someone you could potentially start 1-2 years down the road after the 1st rd of this draft.

You couldn't say, gave Sam Darnold a 5 year deal.

I guess my whole point of this is, it's going to be very tricky and telling of your future to get the pick right....and the QB situation right so it meshes well 3+ years from now.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

That's fine, but with no QB right now, that means if you wanted to keep Hunter and Nabers:

a) You can't sign a good FA QB,
b) You have to find someone you could potentially start 1-2 years down the road after the 1st rd of this draft.

You couldn't say, gave Sam Darnold a 5 year deal.

I guess my whole point of this is, it's going to be very tricky and telling of your future to get the pick right....and the QB situation right so it meshes well 3+ years from now.

Well we likely aren’t getting Sanders or Ward no matter what. So we gotta draft someone else.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

That's fine, but with no QB right now, that means if you wanted to keep Hunter and Nabers:

a) You can't sign a good FA QB,
b) You have to find someone you could potentially start 1-2 years down the road after the 1st rd of this draft.

You couldn't say, gave Sam Darnold a 5 year deal.

I guess my whole point of this is, it's going to be very tricky and telling of your future to get the pick right....and the QB situation right so it meshes well 3+ years from now.

You have us there.

Sadly, we haven't had the success of say, the Jets, so unlike the Jets, getting our picks right in this draft is important for our future.

 

[Deepster]

You have us there.

Sadly, we haven't had the success of say, the Jets, so unlike the Jets, getting our picks right in this draft is important for our future.

This isn’t a Jets thread. There is one though and I’m quite honest on it if you want to talk about them.

I like the Giants. And their path out of this mess isn’t an easy one. It’s even worse if Dabol isn’t the guy, gets canned next year and wasted another year of you trying to build something.

 

[Deepster]

Well we likely aren’t getting Sanders or Ward no matter what. So we gotta draft someone else.

You could go with Hunter, get a one year stop gap FA QB and blow the wad to either move up in next years draft for your QB or throw a bag of money at a good FA QB next year.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

This isn’t a Jets thread. There is one though and I’m quite honest on it if you want to talk about them.

I like the Giants. And their path out of this mess isn’t an easy one. It’s even worse if Dabol isn’t the guy, gets canned next year and wasted another year of you trying to build something.

In all candor I personally don't believe that Daboll is the guy, nor do I believe that Schoen is the guy. If necessary I can elaborate later, but in a nutshell, about six minutes into his second season with the Giants, Daboll began running schemes that highlighted the team's weaknesses, in contrast to year one where the MO was to protect them.

I'm not sure if Hunter can be something special. If the plan is to play him primarily at CB, with a handful of plays at WR each game, I would want to be sure that he is the top CB in this draft (he may not be). If they want him as a WR, I wouldn't spend a top five pick on a WR.

One thing I'm currently happy about (although I fear it could be a smokescreen) is the Giants don't appear to be looking to draft a QB early solely because some think you have to. If a mediocre QB is what you want, there are plenty on the scrap heap, you don't need to waste a top three pick to get one.

I still maintain that the reason the Giants are where we are at the moment (this applies to a few teams) is due to far too many first round picks turning into busts over the past dozen plus years. We can claim we drafted well in the first round (only counting players we still have) with Thomas & Lawrence, Nabors appears great, the jury is still out on Thibodaux while both Neal and Banks each need a major turnaround to avoid being busts. That isn't a lot to show for a lot of first round picks since we beat the Pats in Indianapolis.

 

[navery12]

You could go with Hunter, get a one year stop gap FA QB and blow the wad to either move up in next years draft for your QB or throw a bag of money at a good FA QB next year.

They won't even need to trade up. The Giants will be lucky to win more than 3 games next year, they'll be in prime position to take a QB

 

[Deepster]

In all candor I personally don't believe that Daboll is the guy, nor do I believe that Schoen is the guy. If necessary I can elaborate later, but in a nutshell, about six minutes into his second season with the Giants, Daboll began running schemes that highlighted the team's weaknesses, in contrast to year one where the MO was to protect them.

I'm not sure if Hunter can be something special. If the plan is to play him primarily at CB, with a handful of plays at WR each game, I would want to be sure that he is the top CB in this draft (he may not be). If they want him as a WR, I wouldn't spend a top five pick on a WR.

One thing I'm currently happy about (although I fear it could be a smokescreen) is the Giants don't appear to be looking to draft a QB early solely because some think you have to. If a mediocre QB is what you want, there are plenty on the scrap heap, you don't need to waste a top three pick to get one.

I still maintain that the reason the Giants are where we are at the moment (this applies to a few teams) is due to far too many first round picks turning into busts over the past dozen plus years. We can claim we drafted well in the first round (only counting players we still have) with Thomas & Lawrence, Nabors appears great, the jury is still out on Thibodaux while both Neal and Banks each need a major turnaround to avoid being busts. That isn't a lot to show for a lot of first round picks since we beat the Pats in Indianapolis.

Hunter as a CB is interesting.

He has maybe the best CB of all time as a coach. He’s also on a team that is built on hype and not on results. In the last two years, Colorado has 0 wins against ranked teams.

I could probably see him being a top 10 NFL CB and used like Deebo Samuel as a gadget. But going back to a prior post, is that worth investing a top picks contract on when you have Nabers too.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Well we likely aren’t getting Sanders or Ward no matter what. So we gotta draft someone else.

You never know. Reports are that several teams do not have Sanders with a 1st round grade and some have Jaxson Dart ahead of him. Senior Bowl and Combine coming up and the names will shuffle a bit. There will be some big risers.

While I think Hunter probably is the best WR in this draft (not sold on Tet at all) he's probably the #2 CB behind Johnson (especially for teams needing an outside CB, Hunter is probably the better slot CB). It is possible Hunter goes #2 to Cleveland. If not, then the Giants can perhaps trade back.

Good news for Giants is the draft is loaded at RB.

 

[Husky25]

You never know. Reports are that several teams do not have Sanders with a 1st round grade and some have Jaxson Dart ahead of him. Senior Bowl and Combine coming up and the names will shuffle a bit. There will be some big risers.

While I think Hunter probably is the best WR in this draft (not sold on Tet at all) he's probably the #2 CB behind Johnson (especially for teams needing an outside CB, Hunter is probably the better slot CB). It is possible Hunter goes #2 to Cleveland. If not, then the Giants can perhaps trade back.

Good news for Giants is the draft is loaded at RB.

Saw one particular mock that predicts Las Vegas trade up with Cleveland for Sanders. Have not seen anything that doesn't have Ward going to Tennessee. Hunter to the Giants is on quite a few boards. I've heard that he would primarily play CB but have a package of 20 plays on offense.

The Giant taking an early RB again while they are in the shape they are would be such a Mara move. For the Giants' sake, I would hope Schoen is smarter than to allow Mara to force him into a Gettleman. Which RB would you think sells enough jerseys to make such a move worth while (Yes, I believe the Barkley pick was a business decision over a football one.)?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Saw one particular mock that predicts Las Vegas trade up with Cleveland for Sanders. Have not seen anything that doesn't have Ward going to Tennessee. Hunter to the Giants is on quite a few boards. I've heard that he would primarily play CB but have a package of 20 plays on offense.

The Giant taking an early RB again while they are in the shape they are would be such a Mara move. For the Giants' sake, I would hope Schoen is smarter than to allow Mara to force him into a Gettleman. Which RB would you think sells enough jerseys to make such a move worth while (Yes, I believe the Barkley pick was a business decision over a football one.)?

Yes, I think Ward goes #1. Browns trading back would be smart. Hunter is expected to be full time CB and part time WR, but really could be a fairly elite slot WR with Nabers on the outside. So he could work nicely for the Giants.

I don't expect a high pick at RB, just that the depth is there. Guys like Bucky Irving who went round 4 last year and were great will be available late. I expect Jaxson Dart to slide up into round1, but if he doesn't the Giants pick 2nd in round 2. Milroe will probably be round 2.

 

[navery12]

Yes, I think Ward goes #1. Browns trading back would be smart. Hunter is expected to be full time CB and part time WR, but really could be a fairly elite slot WR with Nabers on the outside. So he could work nicely for the Giants.

I don't expect a high pick at RB, just that the depth is there. Guys like Bucky Irving who went round 4 last year and were great will be available late. I expect Jaxson Dart to slide up into round1, but if he doesn't the Giants pick 2nd in round 2. Milroe will probably be round 2.

Giants don't need a RB and have a ton of other needs so I'd be surprised if they even draft one. If they do it won't be before round 5 or 6