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The Official 2024 NY Giants Thread

Husky25 said:
Mac Jones was a pro bowl rookie. Then 3 OCs later he, and he is backing up Trevor Lawrence. Patriots did him dirty too.
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Because a bunch of guys ranked higher didn't go, wasn't it? Mac was a clubhouse lawyer. He was never any good either. The future will tell. The Jets did Geno Smith dirty and now he's a top QB. I doubt these two guys ever become starters again.
 
Waquoit said:
Because a bunch of guys ranked higher didn't go, wasn't it? Mac was a clubhouse lawyer. He was never any good either. The future will tell. The Jets did Geno Smith dirty and now he's a top QB. I doubt these two guys ever become starters again.
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Mac would have developed further under another year of Josh McDaniels. He was hired by the Raiders and Belichick brought back two non-offensive coaches to coordinate the offense. Mac regressed. Surprise, Surprise.

BTW, say what you will about how Mac made the Pro Bowl, DJ never "went to Honalulu (modestly showing my age)." Replacement or otherwise.
 
Husky25 said:
Mac would have developed further under another year of Josh McDaniels. He was hired by the Raiders and Belichick brought back two non-offensive coaches to coordinate the offense. Mac regressed. Surprise, Surprise.

BTW, say what you will about how Mac made the Pro Bowl, DJ never "went to Honalulu (modestly showing my age)." Replacement or otherwise.
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Mac regressed under Bill O'Brien too, he was good as a rookie then the league figured him out when there was more film on him. Rick Mirer had a good rookie year then the league figured him out. Daniel Jones was also a better teammate and leader than Mac Jones.

The Mara's had this notion that Daniel Jones and they stupidly continued believing he could be Eli.
 
Ouch:

Daniel Jones to the Vikings makes sense for both sides. It’s also kinda funny bc they’re arguably the reason why he got paid in New York (the playoff win).- Mina Kimes

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Daniel Jones to the Vikings makes sense for both sides. It’s also kinda funny bc they’re arguably the reason why he got paid in New York (the playoff win).
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not 1 post after the TG loss. How empty will MetLife be for the 3 Dec. home games?
 
Good for Tim Boyle, but it's never a good thing for a team to be on their 4th QB.

Elsewhere around the NFC East...The Eagles keep rolling with Saquon and Hurts, The refs did their best to give the Commanders win to the Saints, and the Cowboys kept their slim playoff hopes (which I believe will be dashed by the Bucs next weekend) alive.
 
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
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Pats fan here, but I agree. Was a little surprised they didn't take McCarthy. I'm not sold on those two as top 5 picks. My guess is somebody else from this class will end up the best QB. Carson Beck won't be a star but could be a Derek Carr level QB. Lots of experience. Knows how to play. Milroe is a great athlete but has Justin Fields level accuracy and processing. Drew Allar is a pocket passer, but honestly a damned good one. Fifteen years ago he'd go first.

If the board sets up that Allar or Beck are second day guys, wait and take one. Worst case you have a solid young backup for the guy you take in 26.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
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No you’re taking a qb with a top 2 pick, Sanders or Ward it is, you could sign a stop gap qb to a 1 year deal. How long does it take to build a team 50 years. Allar and Beck don’t intrigue me. Sanders and Ward are better then Allar and Beck.

Just address the Oline, the line is improved while not very good, losing your franchise tackle Andrew will make your line significantly worse.
 
You tell teams you are willing to listen and you see if anyone goes nuts while keeping your pick somewhere in the top 10.
Unless you think the two QBs are almost guaranteed to be your franchise qbs for 10 years but man you never know with these qbs sometimes.
I still remember that story that Elway was gonna give us a haul to move up just a few spots and gettleman wouldn't pick up the phone because he was locked into Barkley.
Maddening.
 
The Viking said:
You tell teams you are willing to listen and you see if anyone goes nuts while keeping your pick somewhere in the top 10.
Unless you think the two QBs are almost guaranteed to be your franchise qbs for 10 years but man you never know with these qbs sometimes.
I still remember that story that Elway was gonna give us a haul to move up just a few spots and gettleman wouldn't pick up the phone because he was locked into Barkley.
Maddening.
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Well ya who doesn’t listen to offers everyone does except Gettleman, a quarterback vs a running back not a good comparison not to mention there is no qb in the plans on the current roster. Any move is a risk so pass on a qb and they become franchise qbs then what. It shouldn’t take decade to find a qb.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Anyone else on the "trade the first round pick" train like I am?

I like Sanders/Ward, but not as a top-three draft pick. There are so many holes anyways and I like the QBs more in the 2026 draft...what about trade the pick, get a massive haul and then focus on 2026 first round QBs, if we need. Not stopping us from drafting a '25 QB with this idea.
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You'll need a trade partner willing to give up a massive haul and all the other teams probably feel the same about the QBs as the Giants do.

Maybe another team who already has a QB wants to move up for a cornerstone LT or DE or CB, but I haven't really heard of any to that caliber.
 
Husky25 said:
You'll need a trade partner willing to give up a massive haul and all the other teams probably feel the same about the QBs as the Giants do.

Maybe another team who already has a QB wants to move up for a cornerstone LT or DE or CB, but I haven't really heard of any to that caliber.
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This is a defense first draft. I do think Ward and Sanders probably go 1-2 in some order but the best players are mostly on defense. Hunter is likely top 5 as an elite WR and very good CB.
 
Well we now have a QB that can throw TDs! Unfortunately today two of them were to the other team
 
I am hoping the pick gets traded. Build an offensive line before you bring in a stud QB. First are Schoen and Daboll gone?
 
Edward Sargent said:
I am hoping the pick gets traded. Build an offensive line before you bring in a stud QB. First are Schoen and Daboll gone?
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lol let's build an offensive line for the next 5 years then draft a qb, no your drafting a qb. You never pass on a stud qb.
 
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I do hope I am wrong (as I believe they will draft one of Sanders/Ward) but I don't see either of the projected first round QBs as an NFL QB.

My belief is that drafting a QB early who doesn't work out sets a franchise back 3-4 years so unless you are convinced he's the right guy, you're better off picking the best player on your board and delaying the QB pick.

I also believe that if you are in a position where a QB will most likely fail (where the Giants have been for too long) it wont matter what QB you chose as you will ruin him.

We do have some linemen now (not enough yet) and a weapon at WR finally so we may be able to get a QB to succeed, but again, I'm not sure he's available in this draft.

We almost definitely will draft Watd or Sanders and possible end up on the three year treadmill the Jets saw with Darnold and Wilson.
 
Scoe said:
lol let's build an offensive line for the next 5 years then draft a qb, no your drafting a qb. You never pass on a stud qb.
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Do you think the stud is in this years draft? If not trade the pick and draft O line.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I do hope I am wrong (as I believe they will draft one of Sanders/Ward) but I don't see either of the projected first round QBs as an NFL QB.

My belief is that drafting a QB early who doesn't work out sets a franchise back 3-4 years so unless you are convinced he's the right guy, you're better off picking the best player on your board and delaying the QB pick.

I also believe that if you are in a position where a QB will most likely fail (where the Giants have been for too long) it wont matter what QB you chose as you will ruin him.

We do have some linemen now (not enough yet) and a weapon at WR finally so we may be able to get a QB to succeed, but again, I'm not sure he's available in this draft.

We almost definitely will draft Watd or Sanders and possible end up on the three year treadmill the Jets saw with Darnold and Wilson.
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Darnold wasn’t the problem With the Jets
 
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