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The Official 2024 New York Yankees Thread

Obviously having a great, totally reliable
closer is a big deal in the post season, or any time The starting rotation is usually very different in the post season, rarely going 5 deep. Yankees went without Cole the first half and were still in great shape. Slow start for Judge to boot and it hardly mattered.

Judge is ridiculous right now and Soto ain’t too shabby. I’m guessing that there is some chance that he might accept even a little less to stay with NYY if they make the right offer. They are doing fine and he must be in heaven batting in front of a guy who is approaching all time great status if he isn’t there already.



The Yankee swoon pretty much coincided with Stanton’s injury. He had been hitting pretty well and has been doing well since his return. He is getting fooled by outside sliders way less so far this year. He does run like an elephant is on his back, but i’ll take it if he keeps making contact.

Verdugo historically is better than his last 45 days and maybe showing signs of coming around. Wells is looking like the real deal. If Torres and Volpe can bat even around .250 that would be ok, ditto Chisholm. DJ, who knows, and Rizzo will be back fairly soon although i don’t get too excited about that. And then there is Cabrera. Anyone else like him ? I do and think he could fit in at 1st. Switch hitter, often hard contact especially batting lefty. Maybe they are paying DJ too much to sit.

While @Scoe and I might have a semantic difference over what equals “tanking” it wouldn’t trouble me if they can add a strike out artist closer even if it bruises Holmes’s ego. He is the shakiest part of the team. The other relievers have been pretty good lately.

Why do i think of all the teams. Houston is the one AL team that I would like to avoid.
 
Obviously having a great, totally reliable
closer is a big deal in the post season, or any time The starting rotation is usually very different in the post season, rarely going 5 deep. Yankees went without Cole the first half and were still in great shape. Slow start for Judge to boot and it hardly mattered.

Judge is ridiculous right now and Soto ain’t too shabby. I’m guessing that there is some chance that he might accept even a little less to stay with NYY if they make the right offer. They are doing fine and he must be in heaven batting in front of a guy who is approaching all time great status if he isn’t there already.



The Yankee swoon pretty much coincided with Stanton’s injury. He had been hitting pretty well and has been doing well since his return. He is getting fooled by outside sliders way less so far this year. He does run like an elephant is on his back, but i’ll take it if he keeps making contact.

Verdugo historically is better than his last 45 days and maybe showing signs of coming around. Wells is looking like the real deal. If Torres and Volpe can bat even around .250 that would be ok, ditto Chisholm. DJ, who knows, and Rizzo will be back fairly soon although i don’t get too excited about that. And then there is Cabrera. Anyone else like him ? I do and think he could fit in at 1st. Switch hitter, often hard contact especially batting lefty. Maybe they are paying DJ too much to sit.

While @Scoe and I might have a semantic difference over what equals “tanking” it wouldn’t trouble me if they can add a strike out artist closer even if it bruises Holmes’s ego. He is the shakiest part of the team. The other relievers have been pretty good lately.

Why do i think of all the teams. Houston is the one AL team that I would like to avoid.
DJ is cooked.
 
Obviously having a great, totally reliable
closer is a big deal in the post season, or any time The starting rotation is usually very different in the post season, rarely going 5 deep. Yankees went without Cole the first half and were still in great shape. Slow start for Judge to boot and it hardly mattered.

Judge is ridiculous right now and Soto ain’t too shabby. I’m guessing that there is some chance that he might accept even a little less to stay with NYY if they make the right offer. They are doing fine and he must be in heaven batting in front of a guy who is approaching all time great status if he isn’t there already.



The Yankee swoon pretty much coincided with Stanton’s injury. He had been hitting pretty well and has been doing well since his return. He is getting fooled by outside sliders way less so far this year. He does run like an elephant is on his back, but i’ll take it if he keeps making contact.

Verdugo historically is better than his last 45 days and maybe showing signs of coming around. Wells is looking like the real deal. If Torres and Volpe can bat even around .250 that would be ok, ditto Chisholm. DJ, who knows, and Rizzo will be back fairly soon although i don’t get too excited about that. And then there is Cabrera. Anyone else like him ? I do and think he could fit in at 1st. Switch hitter, often hard contact especially batting lefty. Maybe they are paying DJ too much to sit.

While @Scoe and I might have a semantic difference over what equals “tanking” it wouldn’t trouble me if they can add a strike out artist closer even if it bruises Holmes’s ego. He is the shakiest part of the team. The other relievers have been pretty good lately.

Why do i think of all the teams. Houston is the one AL team that I would like to avoid.
Gleyber actually looks surprisingly good in the leadoff spot as of now anyways. I think Stanton and Volpe are the key to the lineup. Amazing how much better a pen looks when your starters are going 6 innings 5 at a minimum.
 
Because of Soto and Judge geez.
  • Chisholm has a .966 OPS w/ the Yankees.
  • Stanton has a .801 OPS, his highest since 2021.
  • Wells has a .815 OPS since the All-Star break.
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  • Chisholm has a .966 OPS w/ the Yankees.
  • Stanton has a .801 OPS, his highest since 2021.
  • Wells has a .815 OPS since the All-Star break.
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Right which is why Wells should be the starting catcher and it's obviously key for Stanton and Jazz to be healthy, like I said all the pieces need to be glued together. Your right Cashman is perfect.
 
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Do u think Flaherty is the difference between a playoff spot and a WS Title? I don’t think there was anybody (outside of Skubal) who might’ve been the difference before the deadline. I agree with a lot of what u said, I’m not sure it would’ve been worth the cost.
Maybe, maybe not Flaherty isn't an ace but he sure as hell is a solid 3 he would've bolstered the rotation and strengthened the pen for the playoffs.

Dodgers dealt Trey Sweeney and their 8th ranked prospect, Cashman let it be known he wasn't gonna deal a top 10 prospect that's just not negotiating in good faith. Cashman tries to win a trade add all cost even if it's a trade that could win him a World Series, it feels he cares more about winning a trade then winning a World Series. I give him a ton of credit for the Jazz trade you don't get that lucky on those trades too often.
 
Maybe, maybe not Flaherty isn't an ace but he sure as hell is a solid 3 he would've bolstered the rotation and strengthened the pen for the playoffs.

Dodgers dealt Trey Sweeney and their 8th ranked prospect, Cashman let it be known he wasn't gonna deal a top 10 prospect that's just not negotiating in good faith. Cashman tries to win a trade add all cost even if it's a trade that could win him a World Series, it feels he cares more about winning a trade then winning a World Series. I give him a ton of credit for the Jazz trade you don't get that lucky on those trades too often.
The pen is his major trade deadline flop.
 
DJ is cooked.
So i suggested Cabrera. Any thoughts? He is versatile and has played a little 1st. I trust him more than DJ and probably Rizzo who undoubtedly will be given 1st when he returns.
 
Another wasted opportunity to create distance with Baltimore. No sweep in Chi no sweep vs Colo, lose 2 of 3 to the tigers, lose 2 of 3 to the Nats, all while Balt is facing a tough part of the schedule and remain a game or so out. Doesn’t bode well for the Yankees. Win the div by a game, it won’t matter…but these losses hurt. Should have 3-4 game lead going into the Cardinals series.
 
Another wasted opportunity to create distance with Baltimore. No sweep in Chi no sweep vs Colo, lose 2 of 3 to the tigers, lose 2 of 3 to the Nats, all while Balt is facing a tough part of the schedule and remain a game or so out. Doesn’t bode well for the Yankees. Win the div by a game, it won’t matter…but these losses hurt. Should have 3-4 game lead going into the Cardinals series.
Throwing games has become a Cashman-Boone specialty. Finally start Wells over Trevino and what do you know he hits 2 hrs in a game Judge goes 0-4 with 3 ks. I like Trevino but he should not be playing over Wells.

Adam Warren is starting again, games in September get treated like spring training games.
 
So i suggested Cabrera. Any thoughts? He is versatile and has played a little 1st. I trust him more than DJ and probably Rizzo who undoubtedly will be given 1st when he returns.
Definitely
 
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Throwing games has become a Cashman-Boone specialty. Finally start Wells over Trevino and what do you know he hits 2 hrs in a game Judge goes 0-4 with 3 ks. I like Trevino but he should not be playing over Wells.

Adam Warren is starting again, games in September get treated like spring training games.
Wells has come on of late. I was confused why they couldn’t hold on to Higashioka in the King deal, I thought rushing Wells might be unnecessary. Contract details aside, Higgy is producing with SD in the ideal part time role. Although he’s gotten more AB bc of injuries this yr.

Win the division. I’ll always take a deciding game at the Stadium rather on the road regardless of how they are playing there that particular season.
 
So i suggested Cabrera. Any thoughts? He is versatile and has played a little 1st. I trust him more than DJ and probably Rizzo who undoubtedly will be given 1st when he returns.
I see the path similar to Bernie back in the early n mid 90s…it took him a minute to really see if he could be that player. A switching hitting lethal bat and a great CF. That’s a high bar for Cabrera and I’m not suggesting he’s gonna be Bernie but I think he’s shown some signs of maybe becoming an everyday productive player in the lineup.
 
I don't typically follow the players when they're in the minors, outside of the top guys. Was Wells a highly regarded prospect? Is the hitting we're seeing lately what folks always expected from him or are we seeing him playing above his level?
 
I don't typically follow the players when they're in the minors, outside of the top guys. Was Wells a highly regarded prospect? Is the hitting we're seeing lately what folks always expected from him or are we seeing him playing above his level?
Yes. Per mlb.com, Wells was the Yankees 4th best prospect in 2022 and 2023 after being a first round pick in 2020. Had the pleasure to watch him play against the Yardgoats last year.

Now that Rizzo is back, fingers cross he can be at least replacement level. At least his K% and whiff rate has been in the 80th percentile, so in the playoffs we just need the ball in play.
 
Shouldn’t write while watching - and granted Yanks are still,in 1st place - but how is it there are 1000 pitchers who throw strike out level fast balls as relievers and NY has none. All junk pitchers who have to be perfect. I”m not totally down on Cashman although he is average at best , but striking out at the trade deadline for shut down relievers was horrible.
 
The pitching and especially the bullpen has been terrible. No trade deadline move was made to upgrade the pen.
 
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I joke about this organization throwing games and then you see this


It's no big deal it's only September, Dominguez only needs a week before the postseason. So what if Verdugo is batting under .200 and we're a .5 game ahead of Baltimore now.
 
This is definitely a flawed Yankee team, but the whole league seems to be filled with flawed teams. Doesn't look like there will be a single 100-game winner this season. The key will be which team gets hot during the playoffs. The Yankees have shown that they can get on that type of run and have pitchers capable of it. Doesn't mean that they will as who knows what to expect from this staff outside of Cole, but they've got as good a shot as any of the teams likely to make the playoffs.
 
The division may be decided this week. Asking the White Sox to get one game in Baltimore is a lot and 3 in Texas for NY is a tough ask as well. The series losses to St. Louis Det and Wash may doom em’
 
If Boone ever uses Holmes again as a closer he is incompetent. He is unwatchable.

One thing you can say about Holmes. You know what you will get when he gets the ball. Very reliable
You already know he will still close games. Common sense doesn't apply to this organization. A winning season is the only priority for Hal.
 
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You already know he will still close games. Common sense doesn't apply to this organization. A winning season is the only priority for Hal.
I literally stop watching when he comes in. I am usually not that kind of fan, don’t take sports that seriously. But I am a very senior citizen and don’t want to die of Holmes failure. So when he comes in, I look at my Yes app to check on game progress. It should make no difference, but somehow seems more tolerable. :rolleyes:
 
Wasting one of Judge’s best years and Soto’s rental.

I can’t believe Holmes was on the All-Star team. Notice the phrasing…he happened to be on the team. Certainly nowhere near being an all-star.
 
I had the feeling back in January & February that the Yankees would never make the World Series!
Hal and Cashman said "we're all in!"
Which to me means they will do EVERYTHING humanly possible to get a WS winning team for 2024, but the Soto deal was great and the pickup of Jazz was also great but the Yanks in February needed a 3rd baseman, LF, Catcher, 1st baseman, 2 starting pitchers and at least 2 relief pitchers! So I guess both weren't ALL IN!
Their 2 relief pitchers picked up at the trade deadline really, really stink!
And September 1st they bring up Duke Ellis not Jasson Dominguez! They must see dreams in Verdugo!
Thanks Cashman!
If George were alive since 2009 NY would have won at least 3 to 4 WS and Bryce Harper and JT Realimuto would be Yankees not Phillies!
Disgusting!
And I'll bet the ranch Hal won't really try to sign Soto and let him go to the Mets or Dodgers because he doesn't have the $!
 
Need some help from Tampa this weekend. I doubt Balt loses today. 3 of 4 losses for the yanks this week and Balt might be tough take catch up even 3 games with 18-20 left by then.
 
I had the feeling back in January & February that the Yankees would never make the World Series!
Hal and Cashman said "we're all in!"
Which to me means they will do EVERYTHING humanly possible to get a WS winning team for 2024, but the Soto deal was great and the pickup of Jazz was also great but the Yanks in February needed a 3rd baseman, LF, Catcher, 1st baseman, 2 starting pitchers and at least 2 relief pitchers! So I guess both weren't ALL IN!
Their 2 relief pitchers picked up at the trade deadline really, really stink!
And September 1st they bring up Duke Ellis not Jasson Dominguez! They must see dreams in Verdugo!
Thanks Cashman!
If George were alive since 2009 NY would have won at least 3 to 4 WS and Bryce Harper and JT Realimuto would be Yankees not Phillies!
Disgusting!
And I'll bet the ranch Hal won't really try to sign Soto and let him go to the Mets or Dodgers because he doesn't have the $!
It’s all pretty odd especially the totally erratic relievers. Starters seem mostly to have gotten back to early season good form. I thought Verdugo was a decent pick up and he has mostly disappointed. Stanton has actually been pretty steady but of course his usual 6 weeks absence due to a sore pinky. I won’t be surorised one way or the other with Soto’s future. I’m sure batting in front of Judge must be heaven for him. The sparse use of a pretty decent Cabrera, especially in Rizzo’s absence and DJ a shadow of himself is also weak management.

But to the point of closers, Boone has to use what is available and that is on Cashman. To me, the best closers come in thinking guys can’t hit them. The best have live fast balls with maybe one decent other weapon. Holmes is a contact pitcher with too often lousy command of the zone. To me it looks more like he is fishing around to get guys out rather than knowing he will own them. Absent a late acquisition, i don’t know who on the staff can be a regular closer. A few guys are more consistent than Holmes, but closer mentality who knows. But it sure can’t hurt to try one of them like Weaver or Hill to see. Holmes has had way too much rope.
 
Any chance that Gil will return soon enough to try out as closer? He certainly has the stuff to make hitters miss.
 
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