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Palatine said:
The coaching staff didn't drop easy fly balls, or drop throws or cause catcher interference. Judge is more responsible for the loss than the coaches.
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The team has played sloppy, undisciplined, lazy and fundamentally unsound the entire season, not just in the playoffs. That is on the coaching if they have done it for the entire season, as if they aren't being held accountable. This isn't limited to a single game or a single series. How often were people dropped from the lineup or taken out for mistakes? Only a handful of times this year. Not to mention that the team has been probably the worst baserunning team in all of baseball all year, without even getting into the terrible decisions to send by the third base coach.
 
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ihatepants said:
The team has played sloppy, undisciplined, lazy and fundamentally unsound the entire season, not just in the playoffs. That is on the coaching if they have done it for the entire season, as if they aren't being held accountable. This isn't limited to a single game or a single series. How often were people dropped from the lineup or taken out for mistakes? Only a handful of times this year. Not to mention that the team has been probably the worst baserunning team in all of baseball all year, without even getting into the terrible decisions to send by the third base coach.
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Yes to all of this but this is why baseball is dumb. You rarely see any player being "dropped" or "benched" anymore especially veteran guys. I mean Gleybar has made stupid errors and not run hard for 6-7 years. It means next to nothing.

And lets say we did bench him to prove a point. Who are you putting in? The Yankees have had atrocious depth for years. We legit started a journeyman utility guy at first base- the first time he's ever played a major league inning at 1B mind you - in the playoffs. And our other option was another utility guy. The four bench players who had more than 100 ABs this year hit 215 (Trevino,) 204 (DJ,) 190 (Grisham,) and 171 (Rice.) I mean JD Davis was our cleanup hitter for multiple games this year.
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
ihatepants- - you're right, but the organization relying on analytics to teach baseball is insane!
That's why they suck at fundamentals!
As long as Steinbrenner owns the Yankees they'll never win a World Series again!
They over achieved this season!
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Let me get this straight, the Yankees lost because analytics caused them to suck at fundamentals? Yet they lost to the team that relies more on analytics than anyone else in baseball?
 
navery12 said:
Let me get this straight, the Yankees lost because analytics caused them to suck at fundamentals? Yet they lost to the team that relies more on analytics than anyone else in baseball?
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All data on launch angles is analytics. Not all analytics pertain to launch angles.
 
The Yankees are just soft and undisciplined. Dodgers wanted it more their front office wanted it more so did their players.
 
Palatine said:
An all time classic meltdown by the Yanks.

The coaching staff didn't drop easy fly balls, or drop throws or cause catcher interference. Judge is more responsible for the loss than the coaches.
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Boone never visited the mound during the 5th inning. The David's sunflower seeds were just too tasty.
 
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Game 5 was a microcosm of the season. Really hot start, then a meltdown. Sad thing is, each of the 4 games they lost was a close one -- winnable. The Dodgers took advantage of all the breaks, and the Yanks didn't. Good teams tend to win those games.

Still haven't won a WS in a year ending in 4. (I don't think I'll be around for the next opportunity.) The same goes for 5, but without Soto, they'd be a mediocre team.

With both NY football teams disappearing, it's time to turn our attention to the only winners around here -- UConn basketball.
 
OldSchooler said:
Game 5 was a microcosm of the season. Really hot start, then a meltdown. Sad thing is, each of the 4 games they lost was a close one -- winnable. The Dodgers took advantage of all the breaks, and the Yanks didn't. Good teams tend to win those games.

Still haven't won a WS in a year ending in 4. (I don't think I'll be around for the next opportunity.) The same goes for 5, but without Soto, they'd be a mediocre team.

With both NY football teams disappearing, it's time to turn our attention to the only winners around here -- UConn basketball.
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If you only will watch winners there's a team sitting at 5-3 right now..... plays Friday night......
 
This should settle the judge vs. ohtani debate

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One thing the above clearly illustrates is the difference in perception an individual can receive in a team sport based on that team winning or losing.
 
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Gerrit Cole opts out of his contract with the Yanks. The team has a way to keep him by adding a year at 36M.
 
Cashman in ESPN article……..wow……blah, blah , blah…..stuff happens. I am a big fan of Boone we are lucky to have him.

Oh well good bye Soto and good bye to any chance we had to win a World Series for the next few years.

He is already talking about who else might be available kind of like just in case.

Should have never razed the old stadium. Should have just refurbished who cares about the cost it is New York. That old stadium was on hollowed ground.

We are just another meddling organization.

I understand I am being very dramatic. Just how I feel.
 
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If they don’t sign Soto, I don’t see how this team doesn’t take a significant step backwards.

Has Cashman talked at all about budget constraints? If there are any constraints, can he even make a pitch for Soto? Judge,Cole, Stanton, Rodon have to be taking up most of his budget. How can he squeeze in another massive contract? If Hal wants to convince us that he is all in…he needs to find a way.
 
Changing the thread a bit, I've heard a lot of smoke of the Yankees having interest in Christian Walker to be their new first basemen.

Gold Glove fielder and he's been a steady .800 OPS hitter for a while now. Can't complain about his analytics either as Walker also draws BBs and his K rate isn't bad for his level of power.

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He'll be 34 by the start of the season, so I can't imagine Walker getting more than a two-year deal.
 
We officially keep Boone. Just terrific…..same old Hal Steinbrenner Yankees. Boone has made the playoffs 6 out of 7 years most regular season wins…..they have to understand as Yankee fans we can go 81-81 and who cares since the goal is winning World Series.

I guess Soto wants to go to a winner. Well we are in the playoffs every year. Since 2010 we have played in the third most playoff games. Only Houston and Dodgers have played more. We have a losing record 31 wins in 69 games. Four teams have more wins than us in that time Astros, Dodgers, Giants and Cardinals. All four of those teams have winning records in the playoffs.

We win until it’s time to win or go home. Sure keep Boone…..just brilliant…..
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Changing the thread a bit, I've heard a lot of smoke of the Yankees having interest in Christian Walker to be their new first basemen.

Gold Glove fielder and he's been a steady .800 OPS hitter for a while now. Can't complain about his analytics either as Walker also draws BBs and his K rate isn't bad for his level of power.

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He'll be 34 by the start of the season, so I can't imagine Walker getting more than a two-year deal.
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No thanks I’m sick of .240 hitters can we get some .280-.320 guys please?

We need actual hitters really bad.
 
Anyone paying Soto $700mil or is that just Boras fluff?

Dodgers seemingly playing chess with all of these Bobby Bonilla type contracts where they defer tens of millions per player so they can trot out an all star at every position.

Sidenote I’m not a fan of the rumored change giving teams “Golden At Bats” where you pick who you want to bat one time a game. I’d rather see robo umps so Boone has no one to argue with.
 
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signing Soto only makes sense if Steinbrenner doesn’t close the wallet after this. If signing Soto means the Yankees are tapped out, it may make sense to sign 5 differerent players for the same amount who would fill holes.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
signing Soto only makes sense if Steinbrenner doesn’t close the wallet after this. If signing Soto means the Yankees are tapped out, it may make sense to sign 5 differerent players for the same amount who would fill holes.
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If your operating on a budget competing against the Dodgers then just sell the damn team.
 
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If we let the Mets, yes the Mets, get Soto then I think it is time for the Steinbrenner family to sell the team. I am hopeful that the only reason they kept Boone is because Soto likes him, as along with Hal he has taken the Yankees to new lows. I don’t really care what his regular season record is because the lack of basic baseball fundamentals cost us game one of the World Series and then the flood gates opened.

If we don’t get Soto then I think the best move is to fire Boone and spend every penny we have on the rest of the free agent market.

Just the thought that a generational player is considering the freaking Mets over the Yankees says it all. I understand money talks but eventually Cohen if he does not win will create a toxic environment in that organization.

Soto in pinstripes just feels right and as a life long Yankee fan to see what this franchise is becoming is sad and will only be more of that if Soto goes somewhere else because we got out bid.
 
StllH8L8ner said:
Anyone paying Soto $700mil or is that just Boras fluff?

Dodgers seemingly playing chess with all of these Bobby Bonilla type contracts where they defer tens of millions per player so they can trot out an all star at every position.

Sidenote I’m not a fan of the rumored change giving teams “Golden At Bats” where you pick who you want to bat one time a game. I’d rather see robo umps so Boone has no one to argue with.
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I think the Mets will. Not sure if Boston will go that high. Or the Yankees. Boston actually has a slight income tax advantage for a change in this case.

As a Sox fan, I'm torn. They have loads of position player talent already and coming in the minors. I'd get two very good starters Fried/Crochet Burnes/Crochet and then see what kind of RH bat they can add.

Golden At Bats is stupid.
 
This morning I sent out a letter on next day air to Hal Steinbrenner at the Dallas Hilton Anatole hotel in Dallas site of the Winter Meetings!
Asking him if he loses out on Soto he has to sign/trade for
the following players:
1. Christian Walker 1B free agent
2. Nolan Arenado 3B trade or Willy Adames SS/3B free agent
3. Anthony Santander LF free agent
4. Cody Bellinger CF/1B trade
5. Max Fried SP free agent
6. Corbin Burnes SP free agent
7. Jack Flaherty SP free agent (any 2 of 3 SP)
8. Tanner Scott RP free agent or
9. Carlos Estevez RP free agent
I said if he loses out on Soto he owes NYY fans big-time signing the above players to not only get to the WS but win it!

I agree even if he signs Soto he has to add other "pieces" to the roster! Don't just rest on Soto!
We won't win squat if he doesn't sign more talent!
 
Hunt for 7 said:
If we let the Mets, yes the Mets, get Soto then I think it is time for the Steinbrenner family to sell the team. I am hopeful that the only reason they kept Boone is because Soto likes him, as along with Hal he has taken the Yankees to new lows. I don’t really care what his regular season record is because the lack of basic baseball fundamentals cost us game one of the World Series and then the flood gates opened.

If we don’t get Soto then I think the best move is to fire Boone and spend every penny we have on the rest of the free agent market.

Just the thought that a generational player is considering the freaking Mets over the Yankees says it all. I understand money talks but eventually Cohen if he does not win will create a toxic environment in that organization.

Soto in pinstripes just feels right and as a life long Yankee fan to see what this franchise is becoming is sad and will only be more of that if Soto goes somewhere else because we got out bid.
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Hunt for 7- - Not just the Mets but the Red Sox have Dominican's BIG PAPI and Pedro Martinez all over Soto!
I can't stand Steinbrenner and Cashman!
If George was alive we would have won at least 3 WS since 2009!
 
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