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The “New” PAC12

superjohn said:
@XStorrsion good stuff but Big 2 conferences will do the consuming. If the Big 12 is still around they may be allowed to have a couple table scraps.
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Those "scraps" are pretty valuable. The only reason the B1G consumed was because the Big 12 had their share. The Big 3 are doing the consuming.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Yes. In 2030-2031 the B-12 will be in a situation very similar to where the P-12 was these past few weeks. A half dozen years later it will be the ACC's turn.
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Nah, the Big 12 won't be in that position in 2031.
 
TheCatsLair said:
Those "scraps" are pretty valuable. The only reason the B1G consumed was because the Big 12 had their share. The Big 3 are doing the consuming.
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You can call it the Big Three if you want but the reality is this:

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The one to the right is the SEC and the one in the center is the B1G. The little one, a distance away to the left, that's the B-12.
 
TheCatsLair said:
Those "scraps" are pretty valuable. The only reason the B1G consumed was because the Big 12 had their share. The Big 3 are doing the consuming.
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I was talking about the scraps that would be left over after the Big-whatever and SEC consume the ACC schools.

Big 12 got a good TV deal, I think it's an overpay and their high point. They added a bunch of conference USA schools and some of the least valuable state schools and didn't really expand their footprint and took on more schools that struggle getting viewers. It's a nice payday and it's home for now but they shouldn't feel safe.
 
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How Sway?! said:
I doubt Stanford and Cal care that much. Their status as elite universities is not going to change and if they really wanted to, they can support high level athletics with their endowment (Stanford might)
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If I were them, I would go Independent as soon as the CFP money/bids run out.
 
Why couldn’t the BE just add Gonzaga, Stanford, and Cal all in Olympic sports only. While they remain Indy in football
 
AntG168 said:
Why couldn’t the BE just add Gonzaga, Stanford, and Cal all in Olympic sports only. While they remain Indy in football
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Cal, Stanford, and Gonzaga Don‘t want their Olympics sports having to fly to the east coast to play games. That would be cost prohibitive
 
We need to go into the PAC, whatever's left, with Gonzaga. Gonzaga as a member for all sports but football and UConn as football only. They can cobble together a decent football conference. SDU, UConn, Boise, SMU, 4 leftovers, Hawaii? UC Davis or another UC steps up? We stay in BE for everything else.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
You can call it the Big Three if you want but the reality is this:

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The one to the right is the SEC and the one in the center is the B1G. The little one, a distance away to the left, that's the B-12.
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Yeah, but what you don’t see underneath that little one on the left is UConn buried underneath
 
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Worse thing about all of realignment, the biggest winner, makes me throw up in my mouth continuously, Rutgirls
 
bendm said:
The 4 PAC leftovers can prob pick and choose who they want from Mtn West and AAC. i'd go with 4 Mtn West and 2 AAC schools:

PAC West:
1 Wazzu
2 OR St.
3 Cal
4 Stanford
5 SDSU (second time's the charm)

PAC East:
1 Boise (best football program in Mtn West)
2 UNLV (Vegas market)
3 Colorado St (Denver market)
4 SMU (Dallas market, foothold into TX recruiting)
5 Tulane (NO market, football trending up)

easily remains the 5th best football conference and keeps their auto bid to the CFP
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Withdrawn. I Forgot the mtn west exit fee just went up several times over. No one is paying $30+ million to join a “conference” with 4 schools and no tv deal. The 4 PAC leftovers will have to join the Mtn West instead.
 
Stanford and maybe Cal might get ACC offers. If that happens the B1G might take another look at them as well.
 
NE Football said:
Stanford and maybe Cal might get ACC offers. If that happens the B1G might take another look at them as well.
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They would need west coast travel partners (e.g., SDSU?). If so, would UConn then be considered as the 4th team? I know, I'm grasping at straws at this point, but it is so damn infuriating how we have been treated by lesser programs, who have accomplished zilch. College sports clearly isn't a meritocracy.
 
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How Sway?! said:
I doubt Stanford and Cal care that much. Their status as elite universities is not going to change and if they really wanted to, they can support high level athletics with their endowment (Stanford might)
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I doubt that any of their endowments permit the funds to be used for athletics.

Now, they could get enough wealthy donors to start contributing to support high level athletics but that remains to be seen. I hope so.
 
I'm waiting for the announcement, and it will be a sad day for college athletics, that the Pac-10 conference is extinct. I see WSU and OSU going to the MW. It just makes sense and is going to be a financial shock to them. Cal and Stanford I have no clue but the MW might be their option. It just is too weird to think it and I can't imagine them being ok with it. However, what other options do they have? Unfortunately they will need to cut sports in order to survive and that's going to be hard for Stanford because Olympic sports are a huge part of their sports culture.

There is no media deal anymore. So adding schools to the Pac-10 isn't going to save the Apple deal.

It's a sad day for those schools.
 
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UCFBfan said:
I'm waiting for the announcement, and it will be a sad day for college athletics, that the Pac-10 conference is extinct. I see WSU and OSU going to the MW. It just makes sense and is going to be a financial shock to them. Cal and Stanford I have no clue but the MW might be their option. It just is too weird to think it and I can't imagine them being ok with it. However, what other options do they have? Unfortunately they will need to cut sports in order to survive and that's going to be hard for Stanford because Olympic sports are a huge part of their sports culture.

There is no media deal anymore. So adding schools to the Pac-10 isn't going to save the Apple deal.

It's a sad day for those schools.
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I we know see why the Pac 10 didn't want to announce their deal. I suspect that they were worried that what actually did happen what happen.
 
CL82 said:
I we know see why the Pac 10 didn't want to announce their deal. I suspect that they were worried that what actually did happen what happen.
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According to the OSU AD, they were very close to agreeing to the deal. I doubt it was truthfully that close but he was pissed because conferences pounced real quick and that agreement went away in a flash.

sports.yahoo.com

Oregon State AD 'furious' as Pac-12 was 'literally hours' away from staying intact

Oregon and Washington left for the Big Ten on Friday while Arizona, Arizona State and Utah are headed to the Big 12.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
 
I’ve been thinking about this today…Is there any chance of creating a new conference (or new Pac12) that could be national? I have to believe DB has reached out to Stanford, Cal, OSU, and WSU with an olive branch? Their story is literally our story…just 10 years later. I’m not sure who else we could add, but do you think there is any chance of this? What makes it though is that there aren’t really any east coast teams left to partner with the 4 Pac leftovers. Maybe USF? Maybe? Temple? Maybe? Memphis? Ok maybe there re a few teams we could cobble together to Meade a new national PAC 12, but I’m not sure Stanford and Cal would “lower” their academic standards enough. Thoughts?
 
Husky92 said:
I’ve been thinking about this today…Is there any chance of creating a new conference (or new Pac12) that could be national? I have to believe DB has reached out to Stanford, Cal, OSU, and WSU with an olive branch? Their story is literally our story…just 10 years later. I’m not sure who else we could add, but do you think there is any chance of this? What makes it though is that there aren’t really any east coast teams left to partner with the 4 Pac leftovers. Maybe USF? Maybe? Temple? Maybe? Memphis? Ok maybe there re a few teams we could cobble together to Meade a new national PAC 12, but I’m not sure Stanford and Cal would “lower” their academic standards enough. Thoughts?
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What networks would be willing to pay for a conference 'cobbled' together?

Certainly you could put together a conference of quality schools- the problem is there is no money left after the other conferences have soaked up all the dollars.
 
Publicly, Washington and Oregon might have been saying they might stay in the PAC-12. No way that would actually happen though. Two reasons to do this:

1. Public perception. They didn't want to come across as the bad guys who destroyed the PAC-12. They wanted to come across as doing everything in their power to stay.
2. Negotiating tactics. They wanted the B1G to up their offer as much as possible before signing on the dotted line, knowing all the while they were going to sign.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Money runs sports, like it or not. No one outside of the SEC is turning down a B1G invite, no matter the stipulations, save for Notre Dame.
 
Rufus said:
Publicly, Washington and Oregon might have been saying they might stay in the PAC-12. No way that would actually happen though. Two reasons to do this:

1. Public perception. They didn't want to come across as the bad guys who destroyed the PAC-12. They wanted to come across as doing everything in their power to stay.
2. Negotiating tactics. They wanted the B1G to up their offer as much as possible before signing on the dotted line, knowing all the while they were going to sign.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Money runs sports, like it or not. No one outside of the SEC is turning down a B1G invite, no matter the stipulations, save for Notre Dame.
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When is this Rutgirls troll getting banned?
 
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BigTenFan said:
What networks would be willing to pay for a conference 'cobbled' together?

Certainly you could put together a conference of quality schools- the problem is there is no money left after the other conferences have soaked up all the dollars.
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I agree. And also ask what conference isn’t “cobbled together”. All UConn is looking for is more $ and more visibility than they can get in the BE and independent. That’s a pretty low bar. What options do the remaining 4 Pac schools have other than combine with the MWC. Is that lucrative? I don’t know. I think a new conference (or nation New Pac) May get better money than what we have now and what a WAC/MWC Pac leftover merger might get.
Hey, just spitballing.
we have to be trying all angles here.
 
I'm in for FB only. Would they consider that? They should. We are a good fit academically, culturally and very successful AD, like Stanford, more than P5 level. We can schedule them in BB OOC. They should put together a west coast conference, add Gonzaga, keep travel regional except for FB and get apple to pay 13M for FB, 7M for other sports. The PAC brand like BE and B12 is worth something.
 
Point6 said:
I'm in for FB only. Would they consider that? They should. We are a good fit academically, culturally and very successful AD, like Stanford, more than P5 level. We can schedule them in BB OOC. They should put together a west coast conference, add Gonzaga, keep travel regional except for FB and get apple to pay 13M for FB, 7M for other sports. The PAC brand like BE and B12 is worth something.
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That’s a fair point. For review sports a cross country conference can work, but is golf or track going to do that trip? Field hockey? I don’t know…but it seems to be the vision of the BIG and Big12.
 
Husky92 said:
That’s a fair point. For review sports a cross country conference can work, but is golf or track going to do that trip? Field hockey? I don’t know…but it seems to be the vision of the BIG and Big12.
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Did you know Stanford field hockey play in the American East. The play Vermont, New Hampshire, Albany
 
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