Texas & OK ask to join SEC?

[UConnJim]

If super conferences are the end game for college sports, why would the ACC or Big 10 expand now with the limited number of free agent schools that are not that attractive for the end game? If we are going to 20 school super conferences, why doesn’t the Big 10 try to grab 6 ACC schools and SEC grabs 4 schools to both get to 20 and eliminate the ACC?

That said, I do think the ACC will consider expanding now in order to get their media deal increased to try to keep Florida St., Clemson, UNC, and UVA happy and less motivated to look for an out.

 

[UCFBfan]

Can we stop with this silly notion that if we go to a super conference/division type situation that a school like Rutgers would be in it. If they are going to go all out like this, and we are living in this dream world, I can easily see the B1G jettisoning Maryland and Rutgers and going after Virginia and maybe UNC.

If there is a move to a P2 or larger division system, some of these lower tier schools in these conferences aren't going to be carried along.

We also aren't going to included so let's not start adding us into any of these "pods" or whatever we wanna call it. It's just reality unfortunately.

 

[Stinger92860]

After the super conferences are sorted out the next logical step is tiered payouts. The Texas type schools get 1.25x+ of a share and the Purdue’s get .75x-, or some other set of numbers. I would not be surprised if the B12 offers this up in an effort to keep OU and Texas.

 

[billybud]

The twitterati are having their day...we are all susceptible to believing...

 

[CL82]

This is possible. But unlikely…as you’d need 10 ACC teams to agree, which would mean they’d need the SEC to partner with them on the assassination. Not sure why the SEC would do that now.

Because they can?

 

[CL82]

Wouldn't the SEC have to change it's name at some point?

Did the Big East?

 

[CL82]

The GOR grants their rights to the conference, not the network. So the ACC conference owns the rights to all of their media money, not ESPN.

I believe that the ACC media deal conveys them to ESPN, but that’s just a vague recollection.

 

[CL82]

If true that makes the Big 12 more viable, at least for a time, much the same way it did with the OBE/American.

 

[CL82]

We should offer to play 5 home games every 10 years at Yankee Stadium, and some basketball games at MSG, lets see Kansas and Iowa State top that, all they offer is free corn.

We don’t talk about it here, but I think one of the biggest mistakes UConn has made in conference realignment is not taking the 10 game football deal with Notre Dame. Yeah, not having any games that the Rent was problematic, but being affiliated with Notre Dame in football would have helped us as a potential partner with them whenever the end up in a conference. That deal is very similar to what you are proposing.

 

[Ha Who]

A major draw for UConn remains Connecticut's demographics. We bring Hartford-New Haven market and metro New York City. And we cannot forget about our academic excellence and numerous national championships. Don't UConn BB fans want to see UConn playing NC, Duke and UVA?

That has worked so far. What has changed?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

We don’t talk about it here, but I think one of the biggest mistakes UConn has made in conference realignment is not taking the 10 game football deal with Notre Dame. Yeah, it not having any games that the Rent was problematic, but being affiliated with Notre Dame in football would have helped us as a potential partner with them whenever the end up in a conference. That deal is very similar to what you are proposing.

It would not have changed anything. I honestly can’t even figure out how to connect Notre Dame looking for cupcakes to conference realignment.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

That has worked so far. What has changed?

Maybe now the president, Board of Trustees and governor will be on the same page as most of the fans. To see UConn in the P5 not some kind of retread Big East coalition.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Maybe now the president, Board of Trustees and governor will be on the same page as most of the fans. To see UConn in the P5 not some kind of retread Big East coalition.

What conference wants UConn? Big 12 is out (obviously). B1G is out as we don't meet the AAU prerequisite. PAC 12 no chance. SEC probably not since football is their thing and not really ours. ACC is the only shot and it's a long one that likely requires them being raided first and I'm not sure we want to join any conference that vulnerable. Probably best to just sit tight and when all of the dust settles in 10 years, I think there are going to be a lot of former P5 schools in our position.

 

[Rumrunner]

Long range, Iowa State, Kansas State, even Kansas, are talked about as being in some barren wasteland of college athletics while the SEC is frolicking in trappings of riches. The ultimate result when there is the final separation of a governing body, what do you think happens to the likes of Creighton, Xavier, DePaul, Seton Hall, Marquette, Providence College, etc.? Those schools become less than nothing in this new world. The NCAA tournament revenue, which has been long predicted on this board as eventually going the way of the dodo bird, will be gone and a new iteration of a tournament will arise, among these super teams, with super fans and and super money. Unfortunately, in this endgame, UConn will look a lot more like DePaul than a Louisiana.

 

[CTBballfan243]

Long range, Iowa State, Kansas State, even Kansas, are talked about as being in some barren wasteland of college athletics while the SEC is frolicking in trappings of riches. The ultimate result when there is the final separation of a governing body, what do you think happens to the likes of Creighton, Xavier, DePaul, Seton Hall, Marquette, Providence College, etc.? Those schools become less than nothing in this new world. The NCAA tournament revenue, which has been long predicted on this board as eventually going the way of the dodo bird, will be gone and a new iteration of a tournament will arise, among these super teams, with super fans and and super money. Unfortunately, in this endgame, UConn will look a lot more like DePaul than a Louisiana.

What is going to happen will happen. No sense losing sleep or over it. Life will go on. I survived the loss of the Whalers and will survive UConn being relegated to mid major status. I just won’t be that invested in UConn sports other than the hockey team. Life will go on.

 

[Jimdish255]

If (and a big if because raiding the PAC12 would not be easy if you don't plan on taking Cal with the other 3 SC, UCLA, STAN) the B1G plans on 6-8 additions which include at least 1 ACC team, and the SEC starts looking at the ACC, we'd better get on board with the fact that a slightly weakened ACC is better than uncertainty. And even if Clemson is a top brand today it's not outside of reason to see them slide back a few notches in the SEC. They were mediocre for decades.

You could understand the B1G taking the 4 Cali schools, Oregon, Colorado, possibly ND and ???
I can also see the SEC wanting Clemson but I'm not sure who else from the ACC or elsewhere. Or if the SEC would like to DROP some teams after this contract is up. Is that even possible (Arkansas, Miss St)?

So some question marks remain. The ACC contract is a big mystery and also what the SEC intentions are after this move they have yet to digest. For now it's a struggle between the AAC and the Big12 for survival with the ACC and PAC drawing up contingencies. But if the PAC is raided we could see the emergence of a new Big-12/SWC. It would involve remnants of the PAC, Big12, AAC, and SEC rejects and maybe Boise State. Wouldn't that be something!

And as far as the B1G goes, if they want UConn you can throw those prerequisites out the window. This changed the dynamic for everyone. In my opinion (and it's a longshot) the best option for the B1G if they want to go BIG are those 6 PAC schools (4 Cali, Colorado, Oregon) along with ND, Kansas, UConn and Army. It sounds crazy but preserves their cultural and academic integrity while adding basketball and football current and potential. Army and UConn do have that potential. 10 new teams. Good for academics, huge for hoops, football and media markets. East and West divisions easy to figure out.

 

[Adios]

You guys really think the west coast will embarrass California-Berkeley?

 

[hoopsfan22]

And as far as the B1G goes, if they want UConn you can throw those prerequisites out the window.

Don't know if I'd agree with that. The amount of money the BTAA takes in from research is orders of magnitude higher than whatever they rake in from sports. The B1G is first and foremost an academic alliance because that's where the real money is.

 

[Jimdish255]

My wishlist for the Big 10 is a Big 24:

Army
UConn
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
The OSU

Michigan State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois

(you could make a scheduling exception for OSU Mich annual)

Northwestern
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Kansas
Nebraska

Colorado
Oregon
Cal
Stan
USC
UCLA

5 games in your division.
Top 2 and bottom 2 each play 2 teams rotating.
1 game against each if the other 2 divisions rotating

9 conference games.
Preserve rivalries
An actual Northeast football division.
Academics are good, athletics are good, markets good, time zones covered.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Long range, Iowa State, Kansas State, even Kansas, are talked about as being in some barren wasteland of college athletics while the SEC is frolicking in trappings of riches. The ultimate result when there is the final separation of a governing body, what do you think happens to the likes of Creighton, Xavier, DePaul, Seton Hall, Marquette, Providence College, etc.? Those schools become less than nothing in this new world. The NCAA tournament revenue, which has been long predicted on this board as eventually going the way of the dodo bird, will be gone and a new iteration of a tournament will arise, among these super teams, with super fans and and super money. Unfortunately, in this endgame, UConn will look a lot more like DePaul than a Louisiana.

Maybe. Or maybe football becomes a regional sport in the south and a northern basketball league dominates the sport.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Maybe now the president, Board of Trustees and governor will be on the same page as most of the fans. To see UConn in the P5 not some kind of retread Big East coalition.

Because UConn doesn't even have a president right now?

 

[huskymedic]

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Because UConn doesn't even have a president right now?

The interim guy in charge at least may realize what is at stake. I am not sure the powers that be a decade ago really understood how important things were when Louisville stole our spot.

 

[billybud]

Maybe sports are regional...as Nelsonmuntz hinted at in his post.

Big time college football with hordes of interested fans has not been a hallmark of the northeast....while college basketball has thrived in the northeast/north.

The question, to be answered over time, is .....will a creation of mega conferences affect the basketball programs of those currently strong basketball programs in the G5

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[billybud]

And...what happens to programs not in the Big Two?

Even P5 conference teams....Being behind the SEC/B!g by $15 million a year is a lot different than being behind by $50 million....Will the two mega conferences own sports?

Maybe in football...but I suspect that soccer, lacrosse, etc will not reap as mauch of the benefits of having big money...

 

[CL82]

Don't know if I'd agree with that. The amount of money the BTAA takes in from research is orders of magnitude higher than whatever they rake in from sports. The B1G is first and foremost an academic alliance because that's where the real money is.

Disagree. Otherwise why take Nebraska when everyone knew it was about to lose AAU status. That isn’t to say that the Big Ten academic consortium isn’t real thing, it is, but first and foremost it is an athletic conference.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Maybe now the president, Board of Trustees and governor will be on the same page as most of the fans. To see UConn in the P5 not some kind of retread Big East coalition.

You're delusional.

Everyone would love to see UConn in a P5 conference. That and two bucks will get you a cup of coffee. There isn't an invite.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Viet Vet]

Let's get real. UConn was, and is, on the outside looking in. The B1G, SEC and ACC don't give a hoot about our men's (let alone our women's) basketball programs. National caliber, multiple-championship-field-hockey program? Nice, but so what? Best-in-the-Northeast baseball.....to them, big deal.

It's football that generates big revenue.........period. And we don't push that needle.

Win games, generate ratings, get advertisers excited.....................then we'll have leverage.