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“I have had issues with Fagnano's arm strength since the first time I saw him against NC State. The OC has to “

Joey seems to take a while to wind up and throw the ball. Not sure what I’m looking at , and what effect it has on his ability to make certain throws. Would agree that he is a pocket passer, when he rolls he doesn’t seem to deliver a crisp throw. Does anyone see a real leader out there? Follow me into hell kind of guy? More of a mid level management type of QB.
Leaving aside his speed in getting the ball out, Fagnano has had several long completions to his credit now. The Buffalo game is a case in point. I'd say there is nothing wrong with his strength. Now, if he doesn't have a certain receiver, well that might be an issue.
 
We won as soon as Temple did not score on the final play. Outstanding defensive effort!
To be fair, though, the actual play was a blown snap by either the center or the RSF QB. But the nerves, the nerves they had to be feeling because of what the UConn D had done to them the whole game, that effect was decisive. Not to mention the penetration at the snap. I doubt they would have made it anyway. Stupid decision by Temple. Their coach set them up to fail. Kick the FG and live to fight again in OT.
 
As will we all lol. Joe gave us the best chance to win yesterday? Did he? I guess he did because he was the only option we had. I think our defense gave us our only chance to win.

Obviously I think Evers when healthy gives us the best chance. So do our coaches. I only commented on this issue to begin with because I think JF was anointed by some as this awesome passer. He isn’t. Seems like a hard working kid and like I said I think he has some talent but as usual on the Boneyard the guy on the bench is always better than the starter until we find out he isn’t.
We gained almost 400 yards and scored 23 points. Was the offense anywhere near consistent enough? No. But can we stop pretending the offense didn’t contribute and the defense won the game on its own? Because that’s not what happened.
 
I’d take Shirreffs over Pindell, but Pindell certainly had more speed.
When watching the FAU game from the stands, it looked liked they sold the run plays really well with Evers. I m not playing and gullible but I struggled keeping track who had the ball. Tyler P was effective dual threat until he got that non contact injury.
 
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Whitmer, Cochran, Shirreffs, Boyle, even Williams, Pindell and Endres - I have never seen college qbs take such damage in the modern game
Dan O avoided injury as I remember. Y
 
Yes and today's operating assumption is that something must be posted, worthiness not withstanding.

Okay boomer. They posted that to IG and not Facebook so it was targeted to a younger audience, 18-24 year olds. Just because you don’t recognize the value of something doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

UConn’s post was creative and funny. And considering how many times we’ve found a way to lose games, it was the chef’s kiss to a satisfying win. Good teams manage to win even when they don’t play well. Perhaps some have forgotten this because we haven’t had good teams in a long time.
 
Not the best performance I’ve seen. But they won despite it. After the Maryland game, if you told us we’d be 4-2 and favored to win out most people would have thought that was crazy.
Certainly the Big 12 thought it was cray cray
 
Okay boomer. They posted that to IG and not Facebook so it was targeted to a younger audience, 18-24 year olds. Just because you don’t recognize the value of something doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

UConn’s post was creative and funny. And considering how many times we’ve found a way to lose games, it was the chef’s kiss to a satisfying win. Good teams manage to win even when they don’t play well. Perhaps some have forgotten this because we haven’t had good teams in a long time.
Slow down Sea Biscuit. Creative and funny? More like classless and mean spirited. I'm not against celebrating, I posted on this very thread that good teams win ugly games. You can celebrate without kicking someone when their down. Not a good look for a state sponsored institution in my humble, and admittedly boomer, opinion.
 
We gained almost 400 yards and scored 23 points. Was the offense anywhere near consistent enough? No. But can we stop pretending the offense didn’t contribute and the defense won the game on its own? Because that’s not what happened.
Not counting the last play of the game the defense didn’t score so yes it’s an exaggeration that the defense won the game. Obviously the offense did enough to win so yes they contributed but without another excellent defensive effort we lose by 20.

The discussion wasn’t about the offense as a whole it was just Evers vs JF and how he was anointed this awesome passer. I have yet to see it. That’s all. I disagree he gives us the best chance to win. So do the coaches.
 
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Okay boomer. They posted that to IG and not Facebook so it was targeted to a younger audience, 18-24 year olds. Just because you don’t recognize the value of something doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

UConn’s post was creative and funny. And considering how many times we’ve found a way to lose games, it was the chef’s kiss to a satisfying win. Good teams manage to win even when they don’t play well. Perhaps some have forgotten this because we haven’t had good teams in a long time.

If we had won by 40 it would have been ok.
 
I think the crazy ending attracts more attention than a blowout. Perfect time to happen when Wake is up next!
 
We’re talking about the twitter post that morphed Temples T logo into an L. No need for that
ummm, but why not??? stop the sensitivity cry-baby train... when we lose, we get picked on. and we got picked on a lot. Get the "W" poke some fun and remember, we will play them again. So simply be aware of that fact. It is one reason why I do see Temple as a rivalry for us.. we may not like it - we may even want a better rival but its how these things go. Its in our history - its when we meet up. UConn needs to win and win so much more that we don't look at them as a rival.
 
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As will we all lol. Joe gave us the best chance to win yesterday? Did he? I guess he did because he was the only option we had. I think our defense gave us our only chance to win.

Obviously I think Evers when healthy gives us the best chance. So do our coaches. I only commented on this issue to begin with because I think JF was anointed by some as this awesome passer. He isn’t. Seems like a hard working kid and like I said I think he has some talent but as usual on the Boneyard the guy on the bench is always better than the starter until we find out he isn’t.
Nobody is saying Fagnano is Marino, an awesome passer, or even a good college quarterback. Fagnano has simply shown some passing ability and some ability to stretch the field through the passing game, Evers hasn't shown anything as far as passing.
 
Evers has a 51% completion %, which is quite poor.
On the bright side, Lamar Jackson was at 54% his freshman year, and has gradually reached 67%--there is hope.
Sam Darnold started at 57% with the Jets, and is now beating them at 68%.
Even Jayden Daniels, currently 82% (!?), was at 58% his second year at ASU.
 
To be fair, though, the actual play was a blown snap by either the center or the RSF QB. But the nerves, the nerves they had to be feeling because of what the UConn D had done to them the whole game, that effect was decisive. Not to mention the penetration at the snap. I doubt they would have made it anyway. Stupid decision by Temple. Their coach set them up to fail. Kick the FG and live to fight again in OT.
temple made the correct decision it didn’t execute. Kicking a field goal at the 1 foot line decision would be demoralizing
 
As will we all lol. Joe gave us the best chance to win yesterday? Did he? I guess he did because he was the only option we had. I think our defense gave us our only chance to win.

Obviously I think Evers when healthy gives us the best chance. So do our coaches. I only commented on this issue to begin with because I think JF was anointed by some as this awesome passer. He isn’t. Seems like a hard working kid and like I said I think he has some talent but as usual on the Boneyard the guy on the bench is always better than the starter until we find out he isn’t.
It may be obvious to you that Evers gives us the best chance but I haven’t seen enough from him as a passer. Maybe he’ll show it but he hasn’t done it yet. He’s got good foot speed but I’m not convinced he’s elite dual threat either.

Also haven’t heard anyone describe JF as an awesome passer like you said, but he has shown ability to stay tough in the pocket & put pressure on opposing secondaries.
 
I Thought this was one of those games where the qb didn’t play all that well but he made some plays when he needed to. Not to compare the two as quarterbacks, but over his career Brady was masterful at playing an eh game then driving the field and scoring or setting up the score for Vinitari or someone.

I thought the drive at the end of the first half was very good up until the penalty. But it gave us the lead going into the half. Temple basically sold out the run and said see if Fagnano can beat us with the pass. He did. The D made a terrific stand at the goal line but they were defending the lead Fagnano gave them.
 
It may be obvious to you that Evers gives us the best chance but I haven’t seen enough from him as a passer. Maybe he’ll show it but he hasn’t done it yet. He’s got good foot speed but I’m not convinced he’s elite dual threat either.

Also haven’t heard anyone describe JF as an awesome passer like you said, but he has shown ability to stay tough in the pocket & put pressure on opposing secondaries.
I meant obviously that’s my opinion. I by no means think Evers is a world beater and that we can’t win with Joe because we can and we have. They have different strengths and weaknesses. Straight up have to pick I think Evers is our guy and I disagree with posters that pick JF. That’s all. They are close enough I think you could make the case either way.
 
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It may be obvious to you that Evers gives us the best chance but I haven’t seen enough from him as a passer. Maybe he’ll show it but he hasn’t done it yet. He’s got good foot speed but I’m not convinced he’s elite dual threat either.

Also haven’t heard anyone describe JF as an awesome passer like you said, but he has shown ability to stay tough in the pocket & put pressure on opposing secondaries.
The problem with Evers is that he isn't that fast or elusive as a runner either. Better than Joe F. for sure but I don't really see what Evers gives us at Qb unless he can improve this throwing drastically.
 
Sometimes, it can be hurtful emotionally to have an opinion that others don't share, and the body tends to react by "doubling down".

Do I happen to know who the best QB on this team is? As a scientist, I can't say I do with any high level of certainty. So I have to defer to the experts.

Has Mora given me ANY REASON AT ALL not to trust his judgment??? I'd argue that his judgment is the only thing that should matter now, as he has us on track to go to our second bowl game in 3 years. His choice is very likely to be the correct choice...
I do know, and he hasn’t had one snap since he got here. Uconn has had some really good QB’s in the past, and most didn’t play at all.
 
I don't know what some of you see when you watch Fagnano. He makes about 3 good throws out of 10 attempts, and the other 7 are usually brutally bad. He can't run and he isn't accurate.
Out of curiosity, what do you see when Evers throws it? There is a reason why WRs have YACs that lead to TDs from Fagnano passes. We haven't seen that from Nick. Fagnano is far from great and Nick will get better with reps. Right now, however, its not close as to who is more accurate.
 
UConn did not deserve to win. The guy who recovered the fumble and ran for a game-ending touchdown should be criticized by Mora. Jump on the fumble, game over. Risking the fumble-return could result in a further fumble to be returned for a Temple win.

That was a selfish look-at-me move. Team first, please.
Someone should tell him his scoop and score was selfish.
 
If Fagnano could have been a little bit more accurate throwing the shorter passes maybe we win that game going away. Evers can't even throw and Temple would have just loaded the box. I think we don't that game with Evers as QB as we needed some of Joe's big throws to win it.
I think the team may have benefited from a "wake up game". I'd much rather have that be a scary close win with a great finish then a disappointing close loss.

(I wonder what that game would've looked like if the correct call had been made on that third down spot in the first series. Had we marched down the field like that and scored it likely would have set Temple back on their heels a bit. No matter. I'm happy with the result.)
 
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