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Coach Flood said:
There is zero chance that you are going to win. Not only that, but take note of how well our fans travel. Last year I probably saw 20 UCONN fans at Piscataway.....the Rent is always filled with RU people.
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I remember a decent number of RU fans in 2011 (when our 5 win team doubled them up) but nothing better than what SU or a bunch of other teams bring.
 
Coach Flood said:
There is zero chance that you are going to win. Not only that, but take note of how well our fans travel. Last year I probably saw 20 UCONN fans at Piscataway.....the Rent is always filled with RU people.
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Take note of our Big East championship banners.
 
Coach Flood said:
A win is a win no matter the point difference. So now, if RU is a doormat (per above post), what is UCONN being that they are 10-22 vs Ru?

I'm not here to troll....every post here has been a fact.
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Comparing Rutgers to UConn before UConn jumped to I-A is a worthless comparison. Since UConn made the leap, UConn is 4 wins to 6 loses versus Rutgers if I recall correctly. Most of the games have been close, too. It is also a fact that UConn does have a Big E title and a BCS game and Rutgers does not. Not bad for a ‘start-up’ D-1 program that has only been around for 10 years against a school that has been playing football for 100+ years and is in one of the best recruiting states around.

Thus, I would consider Rutgers a natural and a good rival for UConn in football and not a doormat.

For your information, if you look up ‘doormat’ in the dictionary, there is a reference to Rutgers men’s basketball.

http://www.scarletknights.com/basketball-men/history/win-loss.asp

Total Record: 1155-1090 losses

All time Big E win percentage: 31%

Big East Tournament record: 6-13 (32%)

NCAA Tournament Record: 12 games, 5-7 (42%), 1 Final 4 (1976)

Record Against UConn: 14 wins, 34 loses (29%), since joining the Big E (1995), 2 wins, 17 loses (11%)
 
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Fishy said:
Rutgers' fans have a very hard time understanding that they're in the Big Ten because New Jersey has lot of people in it.

Well, perhaps it's more accurate to say they have a hard time admitting it.

Just be happy about it and stop trying to convince the world that you have some other virtue.

Let's remember that this is a school that has never won a single game in a single sport in over 100 years that they'd feel comfortable bragging about.
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Your last line is so laughably stupid....it just shows how ignorant you are, not to mention how jealous of RU's status as an AAU school (something you can only wish happens in the next decade, if at all)...jealous of where our football program is, compared to yours...and jealous that the Big Ten actually sees value in us, and not in you.

And I don't want to bore you with the wins we are excited about....including the 5 we've won over UCONN in the last 7 years.

So no, I won't admit that NJ's population is the ONLY reason we are in the Big Ten now....because it's just one of the many reasons we are where we are...and you are (still) where you are.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Comparing Rutgers to UConn before UConn jumped to I-A is a worthless comparison. Since UConn made the leap, UConn is 4 wins to 6 loses versus Rutgers if I recall correctly. Most of the games have been close, too. It is also a fact that UConn does have a Big E title and a BCS game and Rutgers does not. Not bad for a ‘start-up’ D-1 program that has only been around for 10 years against a school that has been playing football for 100+ years and is in one of the best recruiting states around.

Thus, I would consider Rutgers a natural and a good rival for UConn in football and not a doormat.

For your information, if you look up ‘doormat’ in the dictionary, there is a reference to Rutgers men’s basketball.

http://www.scarletknights.com/basketball-men/history/win-loss.asp

Total Record: 1155-1090 losses

All time Big E win percentage: 31%

Big East Tournament record: 6-13 (32%)

NCAA Tournament Record: 12 games, 5-7 (42%), 1 Final 4 (1976)

Record Against UConn: 14 wins, 34 loses (29%), since joining the Big E (1995), 2 wins, 17 loses (11%)
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If this was about basketball, you'd have a point. It's not...so as someone who doesn't give a flip about any sport BUT college football...I couldn't care less about our sorry hoops history.

And considering that the majority of the games played between RU and UCONN in football were when both teams were either both D1AA (which RU was until 1979) or D1A, and that RU is 21-10 against you...I'd say that RU is sorry we won't be playing you in the future, since we win 2 out of 3 against you historically.

Finally, RU won a Big East title just last year, so we do have a title.

By the way, You've been playing football since 1896, which by my count is over 100 years as well. What's your excuse for your pitiful sub-.500 record all-time in football. That's just embarrassing. As bad as RU basketball is, at least we've won more games than we've lost....in both football and basketball. Get back to me when you can say the same.

So to say you are a start up is as factually incorrect as saying RU has been playing D1 for over 100 years. It's only been 33 to your 1o years.
 
buggsy said:
If this was about basketball, you'd have a point. It's not...so as someone who doesn't give a flip about any sport BUT college football...I couldn't care less about our sorry hoops history.

And considering that the majority of the games played between RU and UCONN in football were when both teams were either both D1AA (which RU was until 1979) or D1A, and that RU is 21-10 against you...I'd say that RU is sorry we won't be playing you in the future, since we win 2 out of 3 against you historically.

Finally, RU won a Big East title just last year, so we do have a title.

By the way, You've been playing football since 1896, which by my count is over 100 years as well. What's your excuse for your pitiful sub-.500 record all-time in football. That's just embarrassing. As bad as RU basketball is, at least we've won more games than we've lost....in both football and basketball. Get back to me when you can say the same.

So to say you are a start up is as factually incorrect as saying RU has been playing D1 for over 100 years. It's only been 33 to your 1o years.
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According to the NCAA, Rutgers has always been considered a major college football division program, and was never 1-AA. Granted, it played a mixture of University and College division teams in the 70's, following its long tradition of scheduling like , but until 2000 when UConn transitioned to 1A the two schools were in different classifications.

http://www.footballgeography.com/?page_id=100
 
@ Buggsy
As I said, I would rather UConn play Rutgers than not as I respect the team (not the administration, which is a complete laughing stock right now) as college sports historically are driven by valries, which drive fan interest, which drives attendance and TV rating, which drives revenue. It has been a good, regional rivalry. Sad to see it among many of the conference realignment victims.
That said, it is naïve to believe Rutgers was selected because of football alone. It was selected because of TV sets, i.e. the fact Rutgers is one of two FBS programs in the NYC DMA (Army is the other). AAU status and the fact that NJ is adjacent to an existing B1G states (PA) were also factors. Access to NJ football recruiting was also a factor, though a secondary one.
Overall, UConn is comparable to Rutgers academically (AAU is the objective, Unievrsitas status will help [only US universities are UConn, Virginia, Maryland & Ohio State) and US news has UConn ranked #63 while Rutgers is #68) and is equal to or greater than Rutgers with respect to athletics (no football history hurts; but UConn has an overall stronger sports program, basketball power, and runs less of a deficit).
As for football itself, UConn and Rutgers should only be compared when both were D-1 status in the Big East. During that time, Rutgers won 6 and UConn won 4. Rutgers has 1 co-championship title and no BCS bids and UConn has 2 co-championship titles and 1 BCS bids. Again comparable.
As for Rutgers 'superior' football record historically over UConn, be careful with that.
http://www.scarletknights.com/football/history/series.asp
Admittedly, football was not the primary concern of UConn athletics for decades until going to FBS. That lack of history is an issue. As for Rutgers, your great record seems to be inflated a bit - ACC: 21 wins, 58 loses; Big East: 64 wins, 108 loses [and that includes 15 wins against UConn before UConn went FBS]; XII: 2 wins, 2 loses; B1G: 9 wins, 26 loses, SEC: 5 wins, 11 loses. But, Rutgers is 261 wins and 233 losses against historically FCS or lower programs. Beyond FBS, Rutgers has 5 wins against RPI, are 5 and 9 versus Haverford, 3 wins against Johns Hopkins, 23 wins and 18 loses to NYU, etc.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
@ Buggsy
As I said, I would rather UConn play Rutgers than not as I respect the team (not the administration, which is a complete laughing stock right now) as college sports historically are driven by valries, which drive fan interest, which drives attendance and TV rating, which drives revenue. It has been a good, regional rivalry. Sad to see it among many of the conference realignment victims.
That said, it is naïve to believe Rutgers was selected because of football alone. It was selected because of TV sets, i.e. the fact Rutgers is one of two FBS programs in the NYC DMA (Army is the other). AAU status and the fact that NJ is adjacent to an existing B1G states (PA) were also factors. Access to NJ football recruiting was also a factor, though a secondary one.
Overall, UConn is comparable to Rutgers academically (AAU is the objective, Unievrsitas status will help [only US universities are UConn, Virginia, Maryland & Ohio State) and US news has UConn ranked #63 while Rutgers is #68) and is equal to or greater than Rutgers with respect to athletics (no football history hurts; but UConn has an overall stronger sports program, basketball power, and runs less of a deficit).
As for football itself, UConn and Rutgers should only be compared when both were D-1 status in the Big East. During that time, Rutgers won 6 and UConn won 4. Rutgers has 1 co-championship title and no BCS bids and UConn has 2 co-championship titles and 1 BCS bids. Again comparable.
As for Rutgers 'superior' football record historically over UConn, be careful with that.
http://www.scarletknights.com/football/history/series.asp
Admittedly, football was not the primary concern of UConn athletics for decades until going to FBS. That lack of history is an issue. As for Rutgers, your great record seems to be inflated a bit - ACC: 21 wins, 58 loses; Big East: 64 wins, 108 loses [and that includes 15 wins against UConn before UConn went FBS]; XII: 2 wins, 2 loses; B1G: 9 wins, 26 loses, SEC: 5 wins, 11 loses. But, Rutgers is 261 wins and 233 losses against historically FCS or lower programs. Beyond FBS, Rutgers has 5 wins against RPI, are 5 and 9 versus Haverford, 3 wins against Johns Hopkins, 23 wins and 18 loses to NYU, etc.
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Yeah maybe all are facts but until as late as "87" RU was acting like an Ivy and I remember HC Rich"Dick" Anderson saying when Craig "Ironhead" Heyward wanted to play at RU we have higher standard's than just winning football game's and I won't argue with a child!Meanwhile half the school's in the country were begging him to come!!He ended up at Pitt and a 1st rd draft pick!So even though they may have officially been D1 the admin's wouldn't allow them to act like it!As far as schedule's we were playing Alabama's and Tennessee's even tho undermanned in the late 70's early 80's!RU ducked no one and PSU was alway's a regular!!I know they caught my interest in the early 60's!But your post is informative to the novice fan!
 
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My high school co-captain went to Rutgers.
They were considered just a step below Ivy.
In 1963 Rutgers went 3-6 ne lead the team in rushing.
In 1964 they were 6-3 he won 3 game balls playing strickly linebacker.
They lost to Princeton both years.

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Coach Flood said:
There is zero chance that you are going to win. Not only that, but take note of how well our fans travel. Last year I probably saw 20 UCONN fans at Piscataway.....the Rent is always filled with RU people.
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Don't bother with these guys. All they want to do is attack everything non-UConn and cry about how they didn't wind up in a power 5 league. Oh and did you hear UConn is a good school?
 
What is it with all these yo yos posting here. Bad enough Cuse and Rutgers, now It's a Card fan. Who's next?
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
My high school co-captain went to Rutgers.
They were considered just a step below Ivy.
In 1963 Rutgers went 3-6 ne lead the team in rushing.
In 1964 they were 6-3 he won 3 game balls playing strickly linebacker.
They lost to Princeton both years.

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@And I'll bet I could find similar situations w/a little research on UConn FB history given their below 500 career record!!Again,why the need to denigrate RU? Then again maybe I'm reading more into it than their is?If so my apologies AzHuskyPop!!
 
Why are the Rutgers' and UL fans even here?

It's a rhetorical question - I already know the answer.

We point out the areas of their insecurity and they just cannot let it go.

Rutgers' fans know that they're not and have never been a successful athletic program. In 100+ years, they don't have a signature win in any sport that anyone cares about. Fine school, heavily-populated state equals becoming Maryland's plus-one in the Big Ten.

The ACC happened to need a team when UL is at its zenith. The ACC bought Louisville high and while they didn't get very good academic institution or a school that will carry any weight if the ACC Network fantasy happens, (the UL fan base is basically confined to 1/2 of that city), but they mollified Florida State and Clemson.

While it doesn't fit the heroic narratives you've all concocted about your schools, being in the right place at the right time should be enough.

Let the insecurity go and when it goes, go with it.
 
Responses from college athletics fans reminds me of playground taunting from elementary school.
 
Fishy said:
Why are the Rutgers' and UL fans even here?

The ACC happened to need a team when UL is at its zenith. The ACC bought Louisville high and while they didn't get very good academic institution or a school that will carry any weight if the ACC Network fantasy happens, (the UL fan base is basically confined to 1/2 of that city), but they mollified Florida State and Clemson.
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Keep whining. Swofford knows he made a huge mistake by adding Boston College and didn't want to relive the experience again. FSU and Clemson didn't want another northeastern school with laughable football and were ready to bolt had UConn been added. Adding Louisville virtually saved the ACC in ways your butthurt fanbase can't even begin to comprehend.

UConn + AAC is a match made in heaven.
 
cardsfan123 said:
Keep whining. Swofford knows he made a huge mistake by adding Boston College and didn't want to relive the experience again. FSU and Clemson didn't want another northeastern school with laughable football and were ready to bolt had UConn been added. Adding Louisville virtually saved the ACC in ways your butthurt fanbase can't even begin to comprehend.

UConn + AAC is a match made in heaven.
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Ever hear of Syracuse? I guess not. Keep s**king your own penis.
 
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buggsy said:
And I don't want to bore you with the wins we are excited about....including the 5 we've won over UCONN in the last 7 years.
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Unintentional as it may have been, you pretty much summed up the difference between our two athletic programs.

For Rutgers fans, wins over UConn (in any sport) are major highlights that they can reflect on for years to come. UConn fans, on the other hand, have championships to reflect on.

We can all agree that Rutgers' conference situation is lightyears ahead of UConn's, even if we disagree about how and why you got there. I'm just not sure why you give such a duck* about what UConn fans think.

(Actually, I do know. It's that insecurity thing Fishy was talking about.)
 
cardsfan123 said:
Keep whining. Swofford knows he made a huge mistake by adding Boston College and didn't want to relive the experience again. FSU and Clemson didn't want another northeastern school with laughable football and were ready to bolt had UConn been added. Adding Louisville virtually saved the ACC in ways your butthurt fanbase can't even begin to comprehend.

UConn + AAC is a match made in heaven.
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Do not confuse Louisville with Boston College.

Boston College has a far, far better football history than Louisville and they're an excellent school in a great city. Louisville is a marginal school in Kentucky. Over the long, short or even middle run, the ACC picks Boston College 100 times out of 100 times over Louisville. If they have to kick one of you out tomorrow, they don't even take a vote before deleting Louisville from the letterhead.

Again, your narrative does not fit your reality. You had a good year - it got you in the ACC, but don't confuse yourself with something more.

Be happy.

(PS - UConn 23 Louisville 20. Laughable.)
 
Fishy said:
Why are the Rutgers' and UL fans even here?

It's a rhetorical question - I already know the answer.

We point out the areas of their insecurity and they just cannot let it go.

Rutgers' fans know that they're not and have never been a successful athletic program. In 100+ years, they don't have a signature win in any sport that anyone cares about. Fine school, heavily-populated state equals becoming Maryland's plus-one in the Big Ten.

The ACC happened to need a team when UL is at its zenith. The ACC bought Louisville high and while they didn't get very good academic institution or a school that will carry any weight if the ACC Network fantasy happens, (the UL fan base is basically confined to 1/2 of that city), but they mollified Florida State and Clemson.

While it doesn't fit the heroic narratives you've all concocted about your schools, being in the right place at the right time should be enough.

Let the insecurity go and when it goes, go with it.
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@Sorry Fishy u got it backwards!!They (RU) knew it was just a matter of who would be our partner since Neb jumped us and only reason Md got honor of 13 was a concession we could live with!!Md wasn't even one included in "09" study of potential add's!!Now UConn's only hope is as an add on to a "historic' program!btw I notice your a dour man??Very grim!!Cheer up..didn't u have any toys as a kid?
 
Fishy said:
Do not confuse Louisville with Boston College.

Boston College has a far, far better football history than Louisville and they're an excellent school in a great city. Louisville is a marginal school in Kentucky. Over the long, short or even middle run, the ACC picks Boston College 100 times out of 100 times over Louisville. If they have to kick one of you out tomorrow, they don't even take a vote before deleting Louisville from the letterhead.

Again, your narrative does not fit your reality. You had a good year - it got you in the ACC, but don't confuse yourself with something more.

Be happy.

(PS - UConn 23 Louisville 20. Laughable.)
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@BC day's as a national power or even regional is over even with Daz breathing Temple type love into them!!It's gonna take heroic efforts to maintain dominance in even New England by very good recruiting coaches!What happened to them and the 'U" puzzled me as I thought they were a solid program till I saw how fast they wilted under the loving care of the ACC! The future is in your "other" favorite team of who's board were on!Amazing what a seemingly innocent post brings out of a loyal fan?
 
cardsfan123 said:
Don't bother with these guys. All they want to do is attack everything non-UConn and cry about how they didn't wind up in a power 5 league. Oh and did you hear UConn is a good school?
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We did. And that ville is a glorified JC. Enjoy that degree that's about as valuable as toilet paper.
 
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