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HuskyFich said:
Jalen Adams would be the savior this team needs.

Hard to say that Bouknight Hawkins Martin and Cole aren’t enough to bring in?

Again, it took 3-4 years to make UConn even relevant again, let alone bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits.
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Jalen Adams is exactly what this team needs. And I wasn't even the biggest fan of him. But his style is what this team needs.
 
SeattleHoop said:
This teams man to man defense is not good. In fact, it’s terrible. We are consistently letting teams drop 80 on us.

We need to run a basic 2-3 zone with Clingan in the middle and clog up the paint. I don’t know how else we fix this problem because I don’t see our man defense getting much better
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Why didn't we start with this defensive scheme when Saint John's was known as a poor three-point shooting team? Our recent losses all allowed driving guards to kill us.
 
Jboges033 said:
Sanogo passed out the double more than he ever has.
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This is actually a true statement.

It still happened too infrequently, and he was still sub-optimally late in coming to the decision at times, but if this is a developing skill, I am in favor.

St.John's instantly double-teamed him. Adjustments, or rim-attacks have to be just as fast.

Still, it truly was a noticeable shift in a needed direction. May it continue.
 
Its been 5 years guys. How much time do the Dan Hurley Defenders need? The team has always been inconsistent against good teams. You cant deny the data and results!! Is he magically going to change his schemes, his recruiting, etc.??
 
HuskyFich said:
Jalen Adams would be the savior this team needs.

Hard to say that Bouknight Hawkins Martin and Cole aren’t enough to bring in?

Again, it took 3-4 years to make UConn even relevant again, let alone bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits.
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We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.
 
Palatine said:
If you really think that, Jim Boeheim would be the perfect coach.
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Why wouldn’t anyone think a zone is not a good idea. But please get it right Syracuse played a 3-2 zone not 2-3.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.
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This statement is objectively false. Martin, Cole, Sanogo, Bouknight, Hawkins, Jackson, Clingan are all Hurley recruits. And significantly better than what he inherited
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.
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What world are you living in?
 
AntG168 said:
This statement is objectively false. Martin, Cole, Sanogo, Bouknight, Hawkins, Jackson, Clingan are all Hurley recruits. And significantly better than what he inherited
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They are not better than Adams, Vital, and Whaley was a DPOY.

Polley, one of the worst of the bunch, was 6th man of the year. Carlton transfered and became All Conference for a very good Houston team. The whole Hurley was left with nothing is overblown.
 
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gampelcrazies said:
I don't care what anyone says Cole wasn't that good. He was an alright PG. Hurley has a real problem recruiting good PGs. It's been the biggest issues with all of his teams.
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The fact that people keep holding up Cole as this standard for good PG just shows how clueless some of these guys really are to what good is.

He was our worst PG since the 90s. It’s between him and Gibbs (another transfer PG). He is not some standard of player.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
You’re a homer if you think any of those guys, save Bouknight, were better than Adams or Vital.
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I’m a homer if I think UConn players were better than other UConn players? Maybe it’s not drugs and you’re just deranged
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.
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CV was an NBA All Star compared to the kids Dan Hurley has recruited and taking off the portal including Bouk, except Hawkins. Bouk was a train wreck before Storrs and Dan Hurley knew about it, and he is now just a time bomb on a very short delay fuse.
For a former PG, Dan Hurley has a hard time recognizing a good one.
Without a good PG, the team is headless
 
You know I do wonder about the BB IQ of those in this forum. Are you not watching playing us is like a lay up drill. I have coached basketball am not a genius but clearly if a team shoots below 10% from three and still beats you by over ten points someone has to understand a zone is designed to stop dribble penetration. The one thing we are worst at. Why are there not more fans saying it. If a team is not shooting well you pack your defense and a3-2 zone allows AS and DC on the floor. Who cares about offense if we give up a layup two seconds after the opponent crosses mid court. I just wish he would try a 3-2 zone after we get toasted by lay ups
 
AntG168 said:
I’m a homer if I think UConn players were better than other UConn players? Maybe it’s not drugs and you’re just deranged
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So you really think Cole and Martin are better than Adams and Vital? Want to make sure I’m not confused here.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
The fact that people keep holding up Cole as this standard for good PG just shows how clueless some of these guys really are to what good is.

He was our worst PG since the 90s. It’s between him and Gibbs (another transfer PG). He is not some standard of player.
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I'm not a Cole fan. But he would be better than anything we got now.

Also I would have to say Gilbert is the worst PG they have had in awhile
 
gtcam said:
CV was an NBA All Star compared to the kids Dan Hurley has recruited and taking off the portal including Bouk, except Hawkins. Bouk was a train wreck before Storrs and Dan Hurley knew about it, and he is now just a time bomb on a very short delay fuse.
For a former PG, Dan Hurley has a hard time recognizing a good one.
Without a good PG, the team is headless
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WTH am i reading. Bouk is in the NBA. CV is my favorite husky of the last 15 years but where is he?
 
gampelcrazies said:
I'm not a Cole fan. But he would be better than anything we got now.

Also I would have to say Gilbert is the worst PG they have had in awhile
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Forgot about Gilbert. He at least had injuries as an excuse though. Literally 2 season ending injuries back to back.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Forgot about Gilbert. He at least had injuries as an excuse though. Literally 2 season ending injuries back to back.
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Fair but he didn't have a good basketball IQ.

But to your point Adams and Vital were a great backcourt. You add those two guys with Hawk they would be disgusting
 
AntG168 said:
WTH am i reading. Bouk is in the NBA. CV is my favorite husky of the last 15 years but where is he?
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Apparently success in the NBA is the metric for how they played at UConn.

Damn, Thabeet BLEW!!!
 
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HuskyFich said:
Apparently success in the NBA is the metric for how they played at UConn.

Damn, Thabeet BLEW!!!
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We’re talking about Talent. It’s not rocket science. That talent level is ions better since Hurley has took over
 
Hankster said:
Cannot believe I am saying this. "The Party is over". Great start of the season Then came Big East play. The opposing coaches are doing a great scouting on our pups. I am not upset to the point of throwing things around the house. Two years ago The basketball Guru's said were a final 4 team. Bounced first round. Then last year. Same thing. Same scenario. Now this years all the sports basketball gurus saying we are best in the country. I am not listening to that crap anymore. We are easy to scout. Providence got beat yesterday.

So you can look at KenPom all you want. Not going there. Don't want to hear the basketball gods about our talented team. Don't care about the rankings. It will not surprised me if we are out of the top ten. 4-4 in Big East play. What happened. Ref's?I didn't see anything they did that was out of the norm.
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We are easy to scout but who do we have doing the scouting for us? We don't seem to have a game plan based on knowledge of the other team. Are all our coaches on the recruiting trail? Damn it seems the Boneyard gets better scouting reports than Danny
 
Palatine said:
Until Danny stops talking about "individual defense" and realizes that getting right up on offensive players 20 feet from the basket is not good for team defense we will see more of the same.

We have seen this in other years. Pressuring the ball 20 feet out is self-destructive. It does eliminate some three point shots but it opens up the interior of defense. And that is where we are getting killed.

But after every game he keeps talking about "individual" defense.
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Correct and SJU is exactly the type of team where this defense of being up in a guy’s chest well above the 3pt line is unnecessar. SJU isn’t a good 3 pt shooting team.
 
gampelcrazies said:
Fair but he didn't have a good basketball IQ.

But to your point Adams and Vital were a great backcourt. You add those two guys with Hawk they would be disgusting
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They’re exactly what this team needs… but are they who they are with Hurley coaching them? I have no idea. Newton was suppose to be good. So was Diggins. Gaffney looked good as a freshman. We’ll have to see how Castle does next year.
 
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