St. John's Post Game Thread

[Palatine]

This teams man to man defense is not good. In fact, it’s terrible. We are consistently letting teams drop 80 on us.

We need to run a basic 2-3 zone with Clingan in the middle and clog up the paint. I don’t know how else we fix this problem because I don’t see our man defense getting much better

If you really think that, Jim Boeheim would be the perfect coach.

 

[Mets1432]

If this team doesn't bounce back and beat the shorts off of Seton Hall on Wednesday, I think we can call it.

 

[connVA]

Anybody but Newton at the 1 is an improvement. Why not give Joey a try. Hawkins, Jackson, Karaban have to play 35+ minutes. Sanogo can start but need to go to Clingan early and often if Sanogo is having one of his trademark “be entirely useless” games

Newton has been bad but, unfortunately, he's still the best all-around member of our four-guard Island of Misfit Toys:

Joey C. - best shooter of the group but is too slow to handle quick guards
Alleyne - worst shooter of the group (and that's saying something), better than Joey defensively
Diarra - best defender of the group (for what that's worth), only one who consistently drives but is often out of control, second worst shooter after Alleyne, tied with Alleyne for highest % of bonehead plays
Newton - second best shooter after Joey (allegedly), second best defender after Diarra (allegedly), best passer (allegedly)

 

[ucp990411]

Can anybody educate me what was the game plan today other than throwing the ball out and let the run their stuff? Imagine being outsmarted by Mike Anderson?

 

[husky429]

Again, it took 3-4 years to make UConn even relevant again, let alone bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits.

We have 6 4* players on the roster and 4 more have transferred out. We brought in multiple four stars year 2. Talent ain't the issue and hasn't been any year since 2019.

 

[gampelcrazies]

Jalen Adams would be the savior this team needs.

Hard to say that Bouknight Hawkins Martin and Cole aren’t enough to bring in?

Again, it took 3-4 years to make UConn even relevant again, let alone bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits.

Jalen Adams is exactly what this team needs. And I wasn't even the biggest fan of him. But his style is what this team needs.

 

[freshler40]

This teams man to man defense is not good. In fact, it’s terrible. We are consistently letting teams drop 80 on us.

We need to run a basic 2-3 zone with Clingan in the middle and clog up the paint. I don’t know how else we fix this problem because I don’t see our man defense getting much better

Why didn't we start with this defensive scheme when Saint John's was known as a poor three-point shooting team? Our recent losses all allowed driving guards to kill us.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Sanogo passed out the double more than he ever has.

This is actually a true statement.

It still happened too infrequently, and he was still sub-optimally late in coming to the decision at times, but if this is a developing skill, I am in favor.

St.John's instantly double-teamed him. Adjustments, or rim-attacks have to be just as fast.

Still, it truly was a noticeable shift in a needed direction. May it continue.

 

[wingsfan055]

Its been 5 years guys. How much time do the Dan Hurley Defenders need? The team has always been inconsistent against good teams. You cant deny the data and results!! Is he magically going to change his schemes, his recruiting, etc.??

 

[Deleted at users request]

Jalen Adams would be the savior this team needs.

Hard to say that Bouknight Hawkins Martin and Cole aren’t enough to bring in?

Again, it took 3-4 years to make UConn even relevant again, let alone bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits.

We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.

 

[Hunt for 7]

If you really think that, Jim Boeheim would be the perfect coach.

Why wouldn’t anyone think a zone is not a good idea. But please get it right Syracuse played a 3-2 zone not 2-3.

 

[AntG168]

We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.

This statement is objectively false. Martin, Cole, Sanogo, Bouknight, Hawkins, Jackson, Clingan are all Hurley recruits. And significantly better than what he inherited

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Is he magically going to change his schemes, his recruiting, etc.??

I mean he is bringing in the best class he’s ever had (by a wide margin next season…).

 

[mrl2016]

We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.

What world are you living in?

 

[Deleted at users request]

This statement is objectively false. Martin, Cole, Sanogo, Bouknight, Hawkins, Jackson, Clingan are all Hurley recruits. And significantly better than what he inherited

They are not better than Adams, Vital, and Whaley was a DPOY.

Polley, one of the worst of the bunch, was 6th man of the year. Carlton transfered and became All Conference for a very good Houston team. The whole Hurley was left with nothing is overblown.

 

[AntG168]

They are not better than Adams, Vital, and Whaley was a DPOY.

Polley, one of the worst of the bunch, was 6th man of the year. Carlton transfered and became All Conference for a very good Houston team. The whole Hurley was left with nothing is overblown.

You are high

 

[gampelcrazies]

I don't care what anyone says Cole wasn't that good. He was an alright PG. Hurley has a real problem recruiting good PGs. It's been the biggest issues with all of his teams.

 

[Deleted at users request]

You are high

You’re a homer if you think any of those guys, save Bouknight, were better than Adams or Vital.

 

[Deleted at users request]

I don't care what anyone says Cole wasn't that good. He was an alright PG. Hurley has a real problem recruiting good PGs. It's been the biggest issues with all of his teams.

The fact that people keep holding up Cole as this standard for good PG just shows how clueless some of these guys really are to what good is.

He was our worst PG since the 90s. It’s between him and Gibbs (another transfer PG). He is not some standard of player.

 

[AntG168]

You’re a homer if you think any of those guys, save Bouknight, were better than Adams or Vital.

I’m a homer if I think UConn players were better than other UConn players? Maybe it’s not drugs and you’re just deranged

 

[gtcam]

We’ve been bringing in 4 star recruits this whole time. Akok was a borderline 5*. What Hurley took over talent wise was not that bad. Lol

All the guys who he inherited has done better has done better than his own recruits thus far.

So no, it isn’t he’s still building up what he was left with.

CV was an NBA All Star compared to the kids Dan Hurley has recruited and taking off the portal including Bouk, except Hawkins. Bouk was a train wreck before Storrs and Dan Hurley knew about it, and he is now just a time bomb on a very short delay fuse.
For a former PG, Dan Hurley has a hard time recognizing a good one.
Without a good PG, the team is headless

 

[Hunt for 7]

You know I do wonder about the BB IQ of those in this forum. Are you not watching playing us is like a lay up drill. I have coached basketball am not a genius but clearly if a team shoots below 10% from three and still beats you by over ten points someone has to understand a zone is designed to stop dribble penetration. The one thing we are worst at. Why are there not more fans saying it. If a team is not shooting well you pack your defense and a3-2 zone allows AS and DC on the floor. Who cares about offense if we give up a layup two seconds after the opponent crosses mid court. I just wish he would try a 3-2 zone after we get toasted by lay ups

 

[Deleted at users request]

I’m a homer if I think UConn players were better than other UConn players? Maybe it’s not drugs and you’re just deranged

So you really think Cole and Martin are better than Adams and Vital? Want to make sure I’m not confused here.

 

[gampelcrazies]

The fact that people keep holding up Cole as this standard for good PG just shows how clueless some of these guys really are to what good is.

He was our worst PG since the 90s. It’s between him and Gibbs (another transfer PG). He is not some standard of player.

I'm not a Cole fan. But he would be better than anything we got now.

Also I would have to say Gilbert is the worst PG they have had in awhile

 

[AntG168]

CV was an NBA All Star compared to the kids Dan Hurley has recruited and taking off the portal including Bouk, except Hawkins. Bouk was a train wreck before Storrs and Dan Hurley knew about it, and he is now just a time bomb on a very short delay fuse.
For a former PG, Dan Hurley has a hard time recognizing a good one.
Without a good PG, the team is headless

WTH am i reading. Bouk is in the NBA. CV is my favorite husky of the last 15 years but where is he?