St. John's Grad Transfer - Darien Williams Considering UConn > Landed @ Nevada

[KingAG]

If he can reb and be in ths right spot defensively, he already better than enoch was

 

[CL82]

Averaged 3.3 points last year

Yeah, but they were a quality 3.3 points.

 

[HuskiesAllDay]

Sorry but I basically disagree with you
If you don't understand what I mean about the history then I can't help you - sorry
I'm dropping it now- no sense beating it up any longer
You feel your way about Stair and I just don't see it
If you feel KO could control so many of the things that have happened - so be it

And I respect your opinion to feel that way.

This is how more disagreements should end on this board.

Quickly and amicably. Without dragging the thread into 18 pages of nonesense.

 

[Chief00]

We lost top 50 guys but did they live up to their rankings?

I don't think we'll get or even need a top big man if we're going to be a three guard / stretch four team.

You always need good Bigs.

 

[CL82]

Listen, we get it, you're as pissed about a 16-17 record as all of us are, but at least be consistent in your criticisms. Can't have it both ways.

It's like you don't know us at all.

 

[uconngb]

You always need good Bigs.

Confirmed

I finally scooped Chief on something!!!

 

[Chief00]

The board deserves a counterweight to the constant lunacy you and your crew post. People who don't think KO should be fired are "snowflakes" in a "ladies club"...KO forgot how to coach because of his divorce...KO is killing the program by being too harsh and critical of players when it's board gospel that one of the main components of JC's success was giving players tough love...

It would be a lot easier to criticize KO on his merits if people stuck to actual things he's done and has control over. I've seen so much ridiculous crap on this board lately I have no intention of giving you the benefit of the doubt. People are pissed at him for not rescinding Gilbert's NLI after the first shoulder injury last April. They also think that the template message the AAC sent out welcoming WSU which the intern who runs the MBB Twitter account plastered over a picture of KO was actually a Bob Diaco-like rant. I can't reason with you people. It's not my fault that you were so emotionally unequipped to handle last season that you shovel the blame for all problems, real, and imaginary, at his feet.

As I told the OZman - this dude makes $3 million a year - to win games.

 

[HooperScooper]

Can't say I'm at all excited to be taking a look at bottom level guys from St. John's. But UConn isn't in a very good position now. If Ollie wants him then hopefully it works out well if he comes to UConn.

 

[QDOG5]

Where did you hear that KO didn't see upside in Steve and Juwan, like to know?

Mau, I'll be the first to admit I don't have any inside information. I just seems to me that SE looked to be the full time starter at center for the next 2 years and JD was a possible starter or at least going to get decent minutes at the 4/5 and they both decide to take a year off? I just think KO knows he has to produce soon and he doesn't think he can with those two. Very risky move by KO and it may eventually doom him but it's my guess that he initiated. BTW, the idea of them leaving on their own OR KO asking them to leave make no sense to me. Tough year when the season and the post season are so dang confusing. I'd love to get the real skinny on the situation.

 

[David 76]

It is kind of who we are.The extremes get the most attention and we ignore the sane people. Boneyard, politics,everything. I support KO but realize there are reasons to have doubts. But like Stair, I am appalled at some of the posters throwing over-the-top shade on a true blue Husky.

 

[HuskiesAllDay]

Mau, I'll be the first to admit I don't have any inside information. I just seems to me that SE looked to be the full time starter at center for the next 2 years and JD was a possible starter or at least going to get decent minutes at the 4/5 and they both decide to take a year off? I just think KO knows he has to produce soon and he doesn't think he can with those two. Very risky move by KO and it may eventually doom him but it's my guess that he initiated. BTW, the idea of them leaving on their own OR KO asking them to leave make no sense to me. Tough year when the season and the post season are so dang confusing. I'd love to get the real skinny on the situation.

This is all based on the unproven (and in my opinion, highly unlikely) assumption that KO forced them both out.

Given the fact that there appears to be no back up plan, I don't think you should keep making that assumption.

 

[Confident Carl]

Together with Cobb may bring us some of the toughness, underneath that Ollie is looking for.[/QUOTE]

Is that an actual box out? Forgot what one looks like[/QUOTE]

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Here's another good shot playing bada$$ D

 

[BUConn10]

Everyone wants KO to succeed and for UConn to be great. Grow up, Stainmaster.

Seriously, I can't believe what I'm reading. Who comes here wasting their own time, posting on a fan board for a team they don't like? That just sounds like work.

I will just chalk it up to simpleton thinking, absolutely insufferable poster.

Saying something like "people were on Ollie for not rescinding Gilbert's NLI after his shoulder injury last August" is nonsense for the sake of gaining support to your already reach of a premise.

Where? Where the hell has anyone ever said such a lunatic statement? Stairmaster makes up reasons in his head to get himself riled up then unleashes a torrent of condescension and hubris in a single post that will make your eyes roll back into your skull.

 

[BUConn10]

This post is 100% BS - you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about if you believe it
There are many who have no memory before the golden JC days and can't understand why UConn is struggling at this time - it's so easy to blame the coach - and guess what? KO would just shrug it off but some people have some insight and history of being longterm UConn fans and it upsets some of us with the constant bashing of those who do it ad nausea

You keep saying this. What... What does pre-JC days have anything at all to do with this current offseason's predicament. Seriously I expect an answer. I'm waiting for this fabled wormhole connection between 1985 and 2017.

 

[upstater]

Before you guys accuse others of being apologists, realize that lots of totally inconsistent statements are being made to make Ollie look bad. For instance, mere minutes before this thread on the St. John's kid was posted, someone wrote this to me in regard to my statement that there are slim pickings out here now in April:

"@upstater nobody was expecting Chillious to re-stock the roster with five star talent, but as it stands now we're struggling to put enough bodies together to field a team. It's absolutely fair - and reasonable, I think - to expect him to find guys in the grad market that can play at this level. Even at this stage in the game, it's not selling water in the desert to get somebody to buy in on the idea of playing with a championship caliber back court in a competitive conference. If we can't get guys from Green Bay or UMass to come here with tons of minutes available, there is a real problem."

And one of the posters here blaming us for being apologists then agreed with the statement by writing:

"Well said, don't understand why this is so hard to understand for some on the board."

The same person came here to this thread and called this kid's possible commitment "Sad."

So what in the world are we to assume other than people have it out for Ollie no matter what? Either Ollie takes a transfer from UMass or Green Bay or East Bumfudge, or it's sad that Ollie is taking one from St. John's.

 

[Stainmaster]

Seriously, I can't believe what I'm reading. Who comes here wasting their own time, posting on a fan board for a team they don't like? That just sounds like work.

I will just chalk it up to simpleton thinking, absolutely insufferable poster.

Saying something like "people were on Ollie for not rescinding Gilbert's NLI after his shoulder injury last August" is nonsense for the sake of gaining support to your already reach of a premise.

Where? Where the hell has anyone ever said such a lunatic statement? Stairmaster makes up reasons in his head to get himself riled up then unleashes a torrent of condescension and hubris in a single post that will make your eyes roll back into your skull.

Oh yeah. Nobody, and I mean nobody, blamed Ollie for recruiting a player with a pre-existing injury that didn't exist until after he had signed after the 2nd dislocation occurred. Nobody said Ollie shouldn't have brought aboard damaged goods...

 

[Stainmaster]

lots of totally inconsistent statements are being made to make Ollie look bad.

You could've just stopped here.

 

[BUConn10]

Oh yeah. Nobody, and I mean nobody, blamed Ollie for recruiting a player with a pre-existing injury that didn't exist until after he had signed after the 2nd dislocation occurred. Nobody said Ollie shouldn't have brought aboard damaged goods...

Let's see the links your since you're offering. This individual deserves to be shamed publicly.

 

[ctchamps]

Not too excited to go from Durham and Enoch to Cobb and Williams. I'm fine with one of them but let's try to find a center with a semblance of an offensive game or at least playing closer to 30 minutes per game. I would rather have the Kanter brother than these reaches.

Me too. But to wait for Kanter and lose on Williams and Kantor is too big a risk imo from what I observed in Cobb's game. One year band aid with Williams. Easy to recruit over Cobb year after that.

Time will let us know how this plays out but I'm not in the camp that believes Cobb And Williams is an upgrade over what we lost.

 

[KingAG]

Let's see the links your offering. This individual deserves to be shamed people publicly.

It was said. About rique and mamdou, ppl even agreed

 

[Dogbreath2U]

On one hand, we are worried about KO's performance. On the other hand, KO is JC's choice, has won a NC, and loves UConn. Can we hold 2 opposing ideas in mind at the same time? Hell, no!

 

[gtcam]

You keep saying this. What... What does pre-JC days have anything at all to do with this current offseason's predicament. Seriously I expect an answer. I'm waiting for this fabled wormhole connection between 1985 and 2017.

I don't spoonfeed people who see things through a monocle - hows that for fabled wormhole

 

[Stainmaster]

Let's see the links your since you're offering. This individual deserves to be shamed publicly.

Okay, I did some research. I owe you an apology on one front - nobody did explicitly say that Ollie should've cut ties with him. I was wrong and I shouldn't have passed off something I misremembered as factual.

However, I do have these quotes of people blaming Ollie for purposely recruiting a chronically injured player, implying it's something they think he shouldn't have done.

Vance is Transferring
Vance is Transferring
Vance is Transferring

Alterique shoulder
Alterique shoulder

 

[BUConn10]

Okay, I did some research. I owe you an apology on one front - nobody did explicitly say that Ollie should've cut ties with him. I was wrong and I shouldn't have passed off something I misremembered as factual.

However, I do have these quotes of people blaming Ollie for purposely recruiting a chronically injured player, implying it's something they think he shouldn't have done.

Vance is Transferring
Vance is Transferring
Vance is Transferring

Alterique shoulder
Alterique shoulder

I knew no one would say something like that because its too outrageous to even get by anyone's filter. There is a big difference between criticizing Ollie for targetting the chronically injured vs demanding he rescind an 18 year old's scholarship for getting injured. So yes there are idiots, they arent as dumb as you paint them to be in your arguments, but there are idiots nonetheless.

 

[mauconnfan]

Mau, I'll be the first to admit I don't have any inside information. I just seems to me that SE looked to be the full time starter at center for the next 2 years and JD was a possible starter or at least going to get decent minutes at the 4/5 and they both decide to take a year off? I just think KO knows he has to produce soon and he doesn't think he can with those two. Very risky move by KO and it may eventually doom him but it's my guess that he initiated. BTW, the idea of them leaving on their own OR KO asking them to leave make no sense to me. Tough year when the season and the post season are so dang confusing. I'd love to get the real skinny on the situation.

Okay but I am sure he saw their upside, but is it possible they didn't listen or work hard enough in practice? I mean like you Q i'd love to know the skinny but we just don't know and we can't assume. Maybe one of the insiders will eventually get the know, until then we're in the dark.

 

[BUConn10]

I don't spoonfeed people who see things through a monocle - hows that for fabled wormhole

LMAO, yea thats exactly what I thought.

Notice how I stated that "Seriously I expect an answer", because I know its all emotional, I-was-here-longer-than-you old man curmudgeon b****ing.

 

[ctchamps]

Seriously, I can't believe what I'm reading. Who comes here wasting their own time, posting on a fan board for a team they don't like? That just sounds like work.

I will just chalk it up to simpleton thinking, absolutely insufferable poster.

Saying something like "people were on Ollie for not rescinding Gilbert's NLI after his shoulder injury last August" is nonsense for the sake of gaining support to your already reach of a premise.

Where? Where the hell has anyone ever said such a lunatic statement? Stairmaster makes up reasons in his head to get himself riled up then unleashes a torrent of condescension and hubris in a single post that will make your eyes roll back into your skull.

It was said.

One of the bash brothers actually made a serious post that stated winning a NC was nice but.... as he continued in bashing KO. An NC is "nice". Half the time I think people write stuff in fits of anger and don't realize how stupid stuff sounds.

I support @Stairmaster in all this. He's going toe to toe with more than a dozen of you pretty much by himself! If anything I want KO to find players like Stair and not like whusses who need to find fellow weaklings for support.

This forum should be an example of what type of players we want. JC toughness. If you want to dish it out be able to handle it.

 

[BUConn10]

It was said.

One of the bash brothers actually made a serious post that stated winning a NC was nice but.... as he continued in bashing KO. An NC is "nice". Half the time I think people write stuff in fits of anger and don't realize how stupid stuff sounds.

I support @Stairmaster in all this. He's going toe to toe with more than a dozen of you pretty much by himself! If anything I want KO to find players like Stair and not like whusses who need to find fellow weaklings for support.

This forum should be an example of what type of players we want. JC toughness. If you want to dish it out be able to handle it.

"Okay, I did some research. I owe you an apology on one front - nobody did explicitly say that Ollie should've cut ties with him. I was wrong and I shouldn't have passed off something I misremembered as factual. " literally four posts above yours.

 

[Dove]

Craig Heyward 2.0?

I've never seen this kid...

 

[QDOG5]

Okay but I am sure he saw their upside, but is it possible they didn't listen or work hard enough in practice? I mean like you Q i'd love to know the skinny but we just don't know and we can't assume. Maybe one of the insiders will eventually get the know, until then we're in the dark.

Agreed. I threw it out there on a couple of threads and I'll leave it alone now.