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South Carolina @ Tennessee - 2/25/18

Who will win this game?


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But then one remembers the fact that Holly is her coach.

Knoxville: where talent goes to languish.
Russell is one of only six players Tennessee. To have 1,500 points and 1,000 rebounds.
 
Tennessee never played against A'ja Wilson. SC is clearly the second-best team with A'ja playing. Without her they wouldn't even make the NCAA tournament.

Okay, I saw something about vertigo. Underscores how valuable Wilson is to her team.
 
Russell is one of only six players Tennessee. To have 1,500 points and 1,000 rebounds.
Meh. Stats like this are nearly meaningless. She is 6'6" and she was the #1 ranked player coming out of high school. How many other 6'6" #1 recruits at Tennessee got as much playing time as she did? I'm looking at it more from a player development perspective.
 
I agree Plebe. With her pedigree and size, MR should have scored 2500 by now.
 
Well she came in with bad feet. She has 1,542 points currently #19. Had she come in fully healthy I think she would have 2,000 plus.
 
Meh. Stats like this are nearly meaningless. She is 6'6" and she was the #1 ranked player coming out of high school. How many other 6'6" #1 recruits at Tennessee got as much playing time as she did? I'm looking at it more from a player development perspective.

I dunno Plebe... but something about your posting history makes me think that you dont think too highly of that school in Knoxville :p
 
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Well she came in with bad feet. She has 1,542 points currently #19. Had she come in fully healthy I think she would have 2,000 plus.
No matter what defense of reasons you give, virtually everyone on this board will Firmly Believe that MR did not get coached up to her full potential while playing for Holly. Maybe Russell achieved all that she could have, I just know in watching today’s game and 4-5 others, she does not move across the lane to work answering get open, nor does she utilize her height as much on defense as she could have. That said, she’s a nice player, not a great player. She will be a first round pick because of her 6’6” size...
 
Meh. Stats like this are nearly meaningless. She is 6'6" and she was the #1 ranked player coming out of high school. How many other 6'6" #1 recruits at Tennessee got as much playing time as she did? I'm looking at it more from a player development perspective.

How about this one? One of only three Lady Vols to have over 40 career double doubles.
 
There is a fundamental law that dictates the preferred outcome in this and similar contests. The law is "Anybody but Tennessee".
Totally agree. I cannot root for Rocky Top no matter what the implications. No matter what.
 
How about this one? One of only three Lady Vols to have over 40 career double doubles.
Another overrated stat. Again, how many 6'6" #1 recruits have played as many minutes per game as she has?
 
But then one remembers the fact that Holly is her coach.

Knoxville: where talent goes to languish.

and "just wait until next year" is the motto.
 
A couple of years ago. Harris was the only freshman. It was Tennessee can't recruit. I would say its picked up the last two years.

Going back to the HS class of 2008 Tenn has recruited extremely well. It's what they do with those recruits that is the issue.

Russell is one of only six players Tennessee. To have 1,500 points and 1,000 rebounds.

And I'll wager that all of those players made it to at least one final four.


Several Tenn fans and you in particular are eternally looking ahead to better times. I admire your perseverance and your loyalty to your team but Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm is a children's story. In the real world one has to face facts and the facts are that no amount of talent has changed things in Knoxville. For going on 10 years the Vols have played erratic basketball, losing and struggling to countless mediocre to bad teams. They have fared better overall in the NCAA's, but only in a relative sense and that is little comfort to their season ticket holders who have to sit through listless performances that look like the team was put together an hour before the game. And many of those fans have stopped coming to games. The crowds of 14,000+ have become paid attendances of 8500 where 1500 of those are no-shows.

And since my memory is long I couldn't be happier.
 
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South Carolina 's back court will be more talented and potent next year. They bring back two McDonalds All Americans in Cooper and Cuevas who both can score of the bounce and also pick up Destiny Henderson who has the ability to score, make plays and provide a much more talented backup for Harris. Jackson has been very good most of the time this year, so they will most likely more resemble the tiffany Mitchell, Lakeisha Sutton years than the front court dominated years of recent pass. They will have enough talent with increased experience to continue to be one of the top 10 teams in the country. They will just be more balanced. Games like this occur because of the imbalance of the team's reliance on Aja in regular games. They will move forward.

They have to. They have no choice. I understand we are very young outside of Wilson and lost two senior guards in Cuevas and Spann but still what a frustrating season... I almost want it to just be over already but I’m also aware that it being over would be the last time we see Wilson in a Gamecock uniform. So I’m conflicted.

SC’s strength will be in the backcourt next season, by a vast margin.. The returners need to be in the gym shooting all summer. I’m probably going to lose it if I see Cliney miss one more wide open 3-pointer where the person guarding her is intentionally nowhere to be found.
 
Going back to the HS class of 2008 Tenn has recruited extremely well. It's what they do with those recruits that is the issue.



And I'll wager that all of those players made it to at least one final four.


Several Tenn fans and you in particular are eternally looking ahead to better times. I admire your perseverance and your loyalty to your team but Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm is a children's story. In the real world one has to face facts and the facts are that no amount of talent has changed things in Knoxville. For going on 10 years the Vols have played erratic basketball, losing and struggling to countless mediocre to bad teams. They have fared better overall in the NCAA's, but only in a relative sense and that is little comfort to their season ticket holders who have to sit through listless performances that look like the team was put together an hour before the game. And many of those fans have stopped coming to games. The crowds of 14,000+ have become paid attendances of 8500 where 1500 of those are no-shows.

And since my memory is long I couldn't be happier.
This year isn't over yet. The regular season is over. Now it tournament time both SEC and NCAA. My thoughts about the regular season. I think it's pretty close to what I expected in record 23-6. We knew about Russell and Nared coming into the season. We didn't know how the freshman would do. I think the three that have played a lot of minutes Davis, Westbrook, and Hayes. Have all for the most part had a good freshman year. This team has relied on them. Especially a freshman running the point guard. I think for the SECT and NCAAT. This team can do good in both.
 
Well Tennessee is officially the #7 seed with an 11-5 record. While #7 in the SEC sounds awful, it’s not as bad when you see they were one win away from being the #2 overall seed entering the tournament. They’ll need to beat SC a 3rd time to just make the SEC semifinals. Entering this year I don’t think anyone would have predicted that as a potential matchup in the quarterfinals. Goes to show how each conference game truly does count.

If SC and Missouri take care of business they’ll meet again in the semis in what’s sure to be a game to watch.
 
Tenn's problem is 4 games in 4 days. They are a team with overworked freshmen that relies on defensive pressure. The best thing for them as far as the NCAA's would be to lose to S Carolina.
 
Tennessee has to get by Auburn first before a 3rd matchup with South Carolina. I’m skeptical of whether that will happen. A late rally in their only meeting this season isn’t forgotten.
 
I agree Plebe. With her pedigree and size, MR should have scored 2500 by now.

Russell should have been an all american by now, but hasn't been developed properly. She has the raw talent and skill set to do good things in the wnba, but will need a coach who can motivate her and correct glaring issues in her game that the tennessee coaches never could..her helpside defense is almost non existent and always has been..
 
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Tennessee has to get by Auburn first before a 3rd matchup with South Carolina. I’m skeptical of whether that will happen. A late rally in their only meeting this season isn’t forgotten.

Auburn likes to trap for 40 mins. It gave tennessee fits in their last game and the way they keep turning the ball over, i expect another 20 + turnover game. Tennessee needs to shoot the ball well to get this win
 
Well now that Tennessee is ahead, I guess it's time to switch to making fun of South Carolina.

This game really gives you an appreciation for how good Wilson is.

South Carolina perhaps in trouble next year?

I don't really think so. Remember, we're not just missing Wilson, we're missing Cuevas-Moore and Spann, too. There are no seniors playing today and 1 of the 2 juniors is in her first year with the program. If Cuevas-Moore plays next year, along with the returnees and Destanni Henderson, the backcourt will be much improved.
 
Nared is a senior, Young is a sophomore. I don't agree with that but it is a huge factor.


Agree. I remember back several years in Coates' freshman year I believe. S Carolina had graduated several starters and was thought to be in rebuilding mode but ended up at or near the top of the SEC with a team that relied on defense. Kind of like how every year Oregon St is dismissed preseason because of who they lost to graduation.
They had Tiffany Mitchell back then.
 
South Carolina 's back court will be more talented and potent next year. They bring back two McDonalds All Americans in Cooper and Cuevas who both can score of the bounce and also pick up Destiny Henderson who has the ability to score, make plays and provide a much more talented backup for Harris. Jackson has been very good most of the time this year, so they will most likely more resemble the tiffany Mitchell, Lakeisha Sutton years than the front court dominated years of recent pass. They will have enough talent with increased experience to continue to be one of the top 10 teams in the country. They will just be more balanced. Games like this occur because of the imbalance of the team's reliance on Aja in regular games. They will move forward.
Mcd. AAs in high school. that will be 3 &5 yrs ago. What have they done in college except being role players? SC Top 10 next year. Keep drinking the kool-aid!
 
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Seeing right now I don't see Baylor, ND, Louisville, or Oregon being the 2 seed in Albany, I've narrowed my eye down to 2 familiar opponents being our 2 seed, South Carolina or Texas. I was thinking I'd prefer Texas even though they'd played us closer just to avoid Wilson. But they really don't look too good this year outside of her. I wonder if UCLA jumps both if they win the Pac 12 tourney.
 
Would just like to give a shoutout to the Lady Vols fans on this board. Your fanbase gets ripped on a lot but I’m hearing nothing but positive reports from Gamecock fans. We took two buses of fans to the game and those fans can’t say enough about the hospitality they received from lady Vols fans before, during and after the game.

I’m not sure what made it so great but a few fans are calling it the best road trip experience yet. Kudos and good luck going forward, Lady Vols!
 
I still have not seen any explanation why Aja did not play and what is her projected status in the SEC Tournament?
 
They have to. They have no choice. I understand we are very young outside of Wilson and lost two senior guards in Cuevas and Spann but still what a frustrating season... I almost want it to just be over already but I’m also aware that it being over would be the last time we see Wilson in a Gamecock uniform. So I’m conflicted.

SC’s strength will be in the backcourt next season, by a vast margin.. The returners need to be in the gym shooting all summer. I’m probably going to lose it if I see Cliney miss one more wide open 3-pointer where the person guarding her is intentionally nowhere to be found.

Cliney is frustrating to watch. She plays hard, but she's just not good enough to be out there for an elite team.

I'm still looking forward to the tournaments, assuming Wilson is healthy, to see if USC can make a run in each. I still have a half cracked notion that they can get it together and get to the Final Four if they get a favorable draw and can play well.

But this team has lacked toughness and focus all year and the injuries just have not let them put a lineup out there.
 
I still have not seen any explanation why Aja did not play and what is her projected status in the SEC Tournament?

Vertigo. She has had trouble with it in the past, the newspaper reports.
 
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I don't really think so. Remember, we're not just missing Wilson, we're missing Cuevas-Moore and Spann, too. There are no seniors playing today and 1 of the 2 juniors is in her first year with the program. If Cuevas-Moore plays next year, along with the returnees and Destanni Henderson, the backcourt will be much improved.

I would like to think that next season's team will have a little bit more urgency to them.

But yes, if the team adds Cuevas-Moore back into the mix, along with Te'a Cooper and Destinee Henderson and the anticipated improvements of Harris and Bianca Jackson the backcourt should be marketably improved. How to divide playing time will be interesting. It's not necessarily going to be a great shooting team even for all the guards.

Grissett's development is critical I think. To some degree, perhaps L. Williams as well. Team certainly needs her body for more minutes if nothing else. The margin of error for USC is smaller this year, but I still think those two both needed more minutes when they could be found.
 
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