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Two Three years is years, dopes.
 
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I hope KO give Warde a little stress for only giving him a short term contract, serves warde right. He's staying.
 
B1GEast said:
I hope KO give Warde a little stress for only giving him a short term contract, serves warde right. He's staying.
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what warde did was prudent, at the time. and once it became evident Ollie was the hotshot Calhoun believed he was, he got a really nice contract.

and now a year and a half later he's going to get a really, really nice contract. warde hasn't exactly been pinching pennies.
 
aceboon said:
Hoiberg just got a bump to $2.6M, and like KO he's coveted by NBA teams because of his NBA background and coaching acumen. Jax's salary shouldn't really come into play when discussing what KO might get.
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Waquoit said:
Don't forget the KD card, that's money. And if Hoiberg is getting $2.6M, how can Ollie accept less? And you're right, there was no market for Jackson he's irrelevant. Then there's the fact that if Ollie bolts, so does our highest ranked recruit in years.
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Well apparently Hoiberg is not a lock to stay in Ames. Bill Simmons tweeted out that if Thibodeau goes to LAL (they are seeking permission to talk), Chicago may reach out to Fred.

I don't know what Jackson's market has to do with anything. He got $2,000,000 with no coaching experience. Jason Kidd got $2.5M. My point is, put Ollie's salary on par with an NBA salary and he's locked up.
 
Husky25 said:
I don't know what Jackson's market has to do with anything. He got $2,000,000 with no coaching experience. Jason Kidd got $2.5M. My point is, put Ollie's salary on par with an NBA salary and he's locked up.
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I don't think you understand the concept of market.
 
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I won't link it up but thought it should be said here: Cuse fans went from mocking our confidence in Ollie with the line "Kevin Ollie knows Lebron James" to actually using that as one of the reasons the Lakers might go after him.

What a difference a year makes.
 
This explains the team meeting the other night. "Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know. You're going to see stories in the news saying I have interest in the NBA. My agent is planting those stories as part of my contract negotiations, in order to help me get more money. I want you to know you shouldn't pay any attention to those stories. It's just a negotiating ploy, I'm not going anywhere."
 
B1GEast said:
yeah, thankfully it wasn't shaka, the warde bashing is deserving considering how long calhoun was here and what he did for the program. I have no issues with calhoun naming a successor
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You also have no idea what you're talking about.

It's been said many times, but I guess I'll say it again: Warde waited until the first-semester grades were in before giving Ollie a long-term extension. Those two factors were related.

(But it's also laughable how some people bash Warde for not just blinding signing a guy who literally had zero head coaching experience at the time. No matter how many coaches he played for and stars he played with, actually being a head coach is very, very different. What's wrong with waiting a few months to make sure he's the right guy - even if it costs you a little extra - rather than giving a guy a big contract right away, only to find out he's not a good fit? Sounds pretty responsible to me.)
 
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UConn990411 said:
You also have no idea what you're talking about.

It's been said many times, but I guess I'll say it again: Warde waited until the first-semester grades were in before giving Ollie a long-term extension. Those two factors were related.

(But it's also laughable how some people bash Warde for not just blinding signing a guy who literally had zero head coaching experience at the time. No matter how many coaches he played for and stars he played with, actually being a head coach is very, very different. What's wrong with waiting a few months to make sure he's the right guy - even if it costs you a little extra - rather than giving a guy a big contract right away, only to find out he's not a good fit? Sounds pretty responsible to me.)
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it wasn't just about the timing, it was about how he handled the whole process, that JC had to force his hand by retiring when he did. didn't know you were an insider
 
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LOL to all of those that bashed Warde for not locking him up early and wasting all of that money.
 
Is anyone as insulted as I am that Dom Amore doesn't cite the boneyard as his "source"? Clearly, he is the last to know just about anything. What a beat writer!!!!!!
 
B1GEast said:
it wasn't just about the timing, it was about how he handled the whole process, that JC had to force his hand by retiring when he did. didn't know you were an insider
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Warde Manuel handled that as well as you could've possibly hoped for.

Shut up with this nonsense already.
 
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upstater said:
On the other hand, Shabazz Napier.

DD was basically playing the best ball of his career at UConn at the very end. If he had done that his entire senior year, you can't tell me that he wouldn't have risen well high in the first round.
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How short our collective memory is. Do you remember how DD finished his sophomore season? He was a beast. And all of us projected that into a full junior season and thankfully it happened when it mattered most but you can't say that the DD of the regular season was an improvement over how he finished his sophomore year. We have no idea how his finish to his junior year would have translated into next year.
 
upstater said:
On the other hand, Shabazz Napier.

DD was basically playing the best ball of his career at UConn at the very end. If he had done that his entire senior year, you can't tell me that he wouldn't have risen well high in the first round.
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Actually I thought he played his best ball at the end of 2012/2013 season.
 
Chief00 said:
Actually I thought he played his best ball at the end of 2012/2013 season.
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We'll disagree. I never saw him go off the dribble and slash like this year. He had the same mid-range game, and he shot the 3 better than ever before this year. Not to mention his defense.
 
jbdphi said:
How short our collective memory is. Do you remember how DD finished his sophomore season? He was a beast. And all of us projected that into a full junior season and thankfully it happened when it mattered most but you can't say that the DD of the regular season was an improvement over how he finished his sophomore year. We have no idea how his finish to his junior year would have translated into next year.
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He was injured during the middle of this year. Otherwise, he would have pulled it together. And no Deandre wasn't shooting 3s like that at all last year.

But the fact that we don't know what Daniels would have given us next year doesn't disprove what I was saying at all. The thesis is that a player cannot improve his stock senior season. If Daniels plays like that throughout his senior year, he improves his stock. That was my entire point.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
You having a bad life or something?
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Well I have been subjected to the atrocity that is reading your posts. I feel like that alone deserves a Sally Struthers commercial complete with super sad music. Luckily I can put you on ignore without costing someone $.99 a day, so I think I'll be able to struggle through.
 
Zionn said:
our buddy Wojo.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source...uconn-but-hasn-t-ruled-out-nba-184623146.html
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Not going to add another click on the link but there are two big pink polka dotted elephants in the room.

1) as has been pointed out, you don't say I'm not going to take that other job that would offer a lot more money - now let's negotiate. I think it's best that everyone know there is a big time offer potentially out there and you proceed accordingly so that you make a deal that pays him what he is worth and if you don't, you lose. I don't want to bankrupt the athletic department, but I want him paid what he's worth and to show him we want him around for a long time.

2) The concept that he may never have a better opportunity and it may be luck that got him this far and he could flame out. Well, if that's the case, where would you rather want to find that out if you are Kevin Ollie - with the Lakers where you are gone if you can't produce in two years or at UConn where they are going to give you a lot more time to develop, particularly because you just brought home the 4th trophy. It's just a flawed argument. He's either good enough where he can have a long career here and then in the NBA or he's not good enough in which case he won't have a long career in the NBA but he can still have a relatively long career here.

Finally with his personality and general overall cool factor, he can recruit better than 95% of schools out there and simply put more talent on the floor which can hide any weaknesses while he develops.

Plus he has kids including a 13 year old daughter - I think after being a road warrior for over a decade in the NBA, he probably loves being close to home 80% of the time.

He's not going anywhere but pay that man his money!
 
7774 said:
Well I have been subjected to the atrocity that is reading your posts. I feel like that alone deserves a Sally Struthers commercial complete with super sad music. Luckily I can put you on ignore without costing someone $.99 a day, so I think I'll be able to struggle through.
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Ok you obviously have some issues LOL.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
It's a shame your sarcasm meter is broken.
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Wow...I forgot I posted that and was reading this thread from the last post, backwards. I was wondering what the issue was between you and the creatively screen named 7774 and then came across his response to my post.

Yes, we have a winner and yes, 7774 needs to understand sarcasm when it presents itself. :rolleyes:
 
Husky25 said:
A quick, back of the envelop calc. (based on NBA veteran minimum salaries) shows that Ollie has made about $12 Mil gross. Reduce that by 10% for professional fees (agent/lawyer/accountant) and then reduce it again by 30% of the gross (for taxes. this is conservative because any one with an effective rate that close to the nominal rate should fire their accountant) and Ollie still netted about $7 Mil over the last 14 years. Assuming Ollie has his financial house in order, does that sound like a man with no other options? If he were to take the Lakers' job, highly doubt he moves across the street from Smoky and Craig (Before you all find a hair across your a55, please note this is a movie reference).
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KO made about $25 million from salary during his NBA tenure. Doesn't include extra curricular stuff.
 
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