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Someone ‘splain the NBA to me

Travelman32 said:
Someone 'splain to me how that LA Lakers coach, even with all the injuries, etc failed to get that team even into the play-in games. 11th places? Yikes.
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I place much blame with their GM, LeBron. They lost most of their effective perimeter defenders and replaced with aging friends of his. And Russ. If you recall, the buzz had them acquiring Hield without sacrificing their depth.
 
upstater said:
I lived in Boston during the 1980s and had free access to a suite, so I took in a lot of regular season Celtics games. I can remember it like yesterday because so many many many times, a lot of players wouldnt even bother running down the floor on defense. It was fast break all the time because people just didn't bother getting back. Seriously, even the stars like Bernard King, Moses Malone, Dawkins, Akeem, I saw these guys never get back to play D

What's changed now is that many of the bigger guys are better shooters, and they're bigger so you don't even bother getting closer to the basket because you'll get stuffed. The dimensions of the court are out of whack with the bodies.
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You never saw Olajuwon get back on D.

Great take.
 
The NBA is when you have the best players in the world combined with he best math people in the world do whatever it takes to win. Also going to a magic game isn’t a reflection of the entire nba.

The magic suck so they play like chickens with their heads cut off but if you go to an nba finals or conference finals game the game is completely different
 
HuskyNan said:
I live in Orlando and, yes, I know the Magic are awful but I went to a game anyway. The company I work for banks with PNC and our account manager invited me to watch the game in their suite at the Amway Center. So, I went.

I haven’t been to an NBA game since I saw the Celtics play at the Civic Center and the game has changed. The Magic have a 7-0 guy, Mo Bamba, but I didn’t see him go into the paint on offense once. He chucked up a bunch of threes but so did everyone else. Of the Magic’s 91 shots, 58 were threes and of Miami’s 94 shots, 50 were threes. A guy in the suite told me that the game has been evolving and this is how they play now.

Honestly, I didn’t see a lot of basketball being played although I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw a pick and roll but the game was more like a three point shooting contest. Is this really how the pro game has evolved?

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(Not to mention the annoying drone of the pump up efx on every possession.)

Due to the higher reward of the 3 and success quotient of the dunk the NBA set offense is conditional and Boolean:
Given: spread the floor.
IF 3 is there take it
ELSE if dunk is there take it
ELSE chuck up at end of clock preferably from 3.
Special dispensation for 2 drillers like KD or Booker.
 
Huskyforlife said:
I’d personally rather watch big dudes slam into each other for 2:30 hours and each team score 70-80 points. That’s real basketball. Maybe throw in some turn around contested mid range shots, cause those shots go in very frequently. The people who say they can’t watch the nba cause 18 footers turned into 23 footers are the worst. And yes taking your 7 footer out of the lane on offense is smart because it takes the other teams best rim protector away from the thing he’s trying to protect.
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There are websites for that. But make sure to go incognito mode before you search for it,
 
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Surprised the stadium was that full for a meaningless game involving one of the 3 worst teams. Can’t wait for the playoffs
 
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HuskyNan said:
Free tickets for a suite, free food, free booze, all the desserts we could eat. I have no complaints.

Have to say, though, that my husband and I went to a Tampa Bay Lightning game and the fan experience was a thousand times better. It’s hard for fans to stay engaged at the Magic game when the most fun of the night was watching the Usher Dance Cam.
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The Lightning are 24 games over .500 and the Magic are 38 games under. I'd imagine the vibes were a bit different, for good reason. You were literally watching 48 minutes of garbage time. The only reason to go would be to enjoy the suite.
 
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bendm said:
Can’t wait for the playoffs
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Honestly, I think the Playoffs are going to be awesome. The West has a lot of injuries, so the Suns may rampage through it, but the East is going to be a war. Boston-Brooklyn could be a ECF matchup in a normal year, and Milwaukee vs the winner may go 7 games.

Thank God Tatum is still only 17, otherwise I'd be worried the C's may run out of steam.
 
I am very excited for this year's playoffs, starting from the play-in games.

I can't wait for this PHI/TOR series. All the hype after the Harden trade and Philly may not make it out of the first round.
 
Lefty2one said:
I am very excited for this year's playoffs, starting from the play-in games.

I can't wait for this PHI/TOR series. All the hype after the Harden trade and Philly may not make it out of the first round.
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That's a penned in great first round series along with GS-Denver. Brooklyn vs. Boston or Miami (imagine if Milwaukee ducked Brooklyn but the C's end up with Cleveland?) would be great, as would Minnesota-Memphis.

Round 2 will have a variety of stories regardless. Playoffs are going to be a blast. The Suns are the obvious favorites, but given injury histories, there are probably 5-6 teams that can actually win this year. It's amazing.
 
tzznandrew said:
Honestly, I think the Playoffs are going to be awesome. The West has a lot of injuries, so the Suns may rampage through it, but the East is going to be a war. Boston-Brooklyn could be a ECF matchup in a normal year, and Milwaukee vs the winner may go 7 games.

Thank God Tatum is still only 17, otherwise I'd be worried the C's may run out of steam.
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What's the Husky analogue: Hilton Units, scrappy play, or 20 minutes?
 
I agree there are way too many 3's in the NBA but there is not much prettier than Jason Tatum's stroke from the outside. The Celtics have Tatum and Brown who can breakdown a D on their driving to the hoop and Brown has an absolute killer midrange game. I enjoy their game and the Phoenix game as well.
 
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I struggle with the NBA at times. The ridiculous continuation rule calls, the blatant traveling, if they just enforced the rules it would be better. But it seems nobody wants to see those kinds of lower scoring games. The passing and ball movement are as good as it's ever been. We can thank the Warriors for that. At least the ISO offense is dead, the late 90's 00s NBA was the worst the NBA has ever been. Just horrible. There are too many 3s now, and the players are too good at them. But it is what it is.

This year's Celtics team is amazing to watch, playing incredibly efficient basketball on both ends. So I am looking forward to the playoffs.
 
upstater said:
Go to a live game where you can see the whole court and you'd see Akeem cherrypicking a good part of the game.
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Considering Olajuwon is 59 years old, yes, I would expect him to be cherry picking his court running quite a bit nowadays. Back in his early years and prime, he was one of the best two way players.
Now, if you want to walk it back even further (You've already walked back your "I never saw these guys never get back to play D" and turned it in to "cherry picking a good part") and just say no player runs the court every play in any game, that would make sense. Every fan knows players will take off some plays during a game.
 
runner11 said:
More shooting is good but I want to tilt the game a tad so that it makes more sense for an elite post player to stay home, rather than chill on the perimeter on pick and pops because they are 34% shooter from range. I used to love watching Al Jefferson play. Is prime Big Al leading a second unit in this era?
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No, but even 15 years ago Big Al was not a winning player b/c he just did not defend at all -- and especially not in space. Big guys need to be able to move their damn feet, which is a ton better than the awful basketball we saw in the second half of the '90s and most of the '00s.



BTW, two of the three best players in the league this year were dominant post-scoring big men. Just b/c they can also shoot does not mean they're not capable of the type of smashing on the block that everybody apparently loved 30 years ago.
 
Matrim55 said:
No, but even 15 years ago Big Al was not a winning player b/c he just did not defend at all -- and especially not in space. Big guys need to be able to move their damn feet, which is a ton better than the awful basketball we saw in the second half of the '90s and most of the '00s.



BTW, two of the three best players in the league this year were dominant post-scoring big men. Just b/c they can also shoot does not mean they're not capable of the type of smashing on the block that everybody apparently loved 30 years ago.
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Ya that is a good counter. For whatever reason, when I lament the new way bigs ate featured, I think of prime Love. But this year has been a nice big renaissance with the aforementioned guys and Towns at last seeming to fulfill his potential.
 
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I have a genuine question. I don’t watch much NBA and don’t fully understand all of the analytics. But from the few games I watched it seems like teams don’t even try for offensive rebounds. Someone will put up a 3 and then the entire team immediately begins jogging to the other end before it hits the rim. Is it just not worth their while? The 3 pt % is too high to bother? Or the whole team is on the perimeter so it’s not worth it? It just gives the game more of an arcade feel to me.
 
Greedo said:
I have a genuine question. I don’t watch much NBA and don’t fully understand all of the analytics. But from the few games I watched it seems like teams don’t even try for offensive rebounds. Someone will put up a 3 and then the entire team immediately begins jogging to the other end before it hits the rim. Is it just not worth their while? The 3 pt % is too high to bother? Or the whole team is on the perimeter so it’s not worth it? It just gives the game more of an arcade feel to me.
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Watching the regular season nba isn't exactly how the game is played when there is something to play for. But it's more of the former in that getting an offensive rebound in the NBA isn't really worth it expect for a handful of players who make an identity doing so.
 
The 3 point shot has ruined the game. When was the last time you saw a set play for a big guy to post up. I go to high school games and even at that level it turns into a 3 point shooting contest. I coached high school until 2012 and it is such a different game now.
 
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