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I wouldn't be surprised if that move she made is legal in Europa rules.

No. Definitely not legal in international play. She clearly just forgot that there hadn’t just been a made basket.
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Not sure who it was, but someone yelled "MOVE!" right before she did that. May have been Geno. I wonder if she thought he was yelling at her.
 
CW points rebounds assist averages all higher from last yr especially points and rebounds. 2 point FG% 50, 3 point FG% 30, FT% 72, TO’s up slightly.
Her FG% from last year down at the moment 36 to 30%.
True but Christyn is not the same player as last year as measured by intensity & quickness. Last year she was a shot hunter and won more than her share of those 50-50 lose balls. The shot hunter part may be the most disturbing because at least last year she would have been deferring to the two AA seniors. That should not be happening this year and Christyn Williams should be building her own AA resume instead of a "also ran". 9 games into last season she had already won "bad ass" of the game award. This year she has not even been mentioned.
 
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Look all you people (Yes I said you people) complaining about UCONN's defense. The defense was fine. Nothing super spectacular, but fine. DePaul shot their normal 34% from the 3pt line. Nothing extravagant there. UCONN DID hold them to only 38% overall. 6% below their average. They also held them 14 pts below their avg in points. Hello McFly, the DEFENSE was not the problem. (problem being "only" winning by 10)

Turnovers, people, turnovers. 21 vs 7. There's the difference in a 10 pt win vs a 20 pt win. And 5 (iirc) turnovers were from charging calls. Which is just UCONN being aggressive for the most part. Cut back down to our normal 14, and there's 8-10 points for ya. ND had the same problem against DePaul, too many TO's. If you want (need) to whine and complain, do it about TO's not defense.

Remember, this year is not gonna be pretty. It's gonna be gritty. Geno said so. Get used to it. We were playing a ranked team. We're not just gonna walk over ranked teams this year. Some of you people (yes you people again) have been complaining about blowouts for years. Well, here we are. Be careful what you wish for. There are about 8-10 teams this year with a shot at the FF and possibly a NC, UCONN is one of them. That's not a bad thing. Relax and enjoy.

And those of you longing for Bent. This was not a game for her. She does not do well in chaotic situations. They have enough trouble getting her to play within herself in a normal game. Doing it when the game is at hyper speed isn't gonna work. She can play in a lot of games, but this kind of game is just not gonna work for her. It's ok, she'll do fine in other games.
 
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Excellent points. After DePaul had cut the lead to 4 points 70-66 the next 4 UCONN baskets were layups from three different UCONN players (ONO, Megan & Christyn). Every UCONN player on the floor made a contribution after that point. Among the players on the floor was Aubrey Griffin-which is why I cannot understand this nonsense about Geno not giving her a chance- Aubrey was on the floor at crunch time.
While Aubrey played out of sync at times with rest of team, I think Geno hoped her wild approach might disrupt DePaul in short bursts. She and CW play alike but CW is better controlled. They will eventually spell each other. Anna and Kyla fulfill similar roles, though Anna has more skills, but can likewise spell each other. Both can step in for Liv (Anna had 7 boards), Liv has height, Anna muscle.
 
No. Definitely not legal in international play. She clearly just forgot that there hadn’t just been a made basket.

Not sure who it was, but someone yelled "MOVE!" right before she did that. May have been Geno. I wonder if she thought he was yelling at her.
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I thought I heard Geno yell "move it" just before Ania did move it. I am guessing he was yelling at her team mates and not her. :rolleyes:
 
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True but Christyn is not the same player as last year as measured by intensity & quickness. Last year she was a shot hunter and won more than her share of those 50-50 lose balls. The shot hunter part may be the most disturbing because at least last year she would have been deferring to the two AA seniors. That should not be happening this year and Christyn Williams should be building her own AA resume instead of a "also ran". 9 games into last season she had already won "bad ass" of the game award. This year she has not even been mentioned.
The best players initiate or make plays. IMO, when she does that, Williams seems to have her best stretches of play. Too often she’s hesitant and has to react instead of controlling the action like she has the ability to do. She should try watching video of Bueckers, that’s how you attack a game and it can be done within the framework of UConn’s offense as Auriemma encourages Dangerfield to do. But you have to have that drive between the ears to do it and we’ll see if she’s got it.
 
I think the whole team looked tired in the second half. Not enough depth off the bench. It’s tough playing the starters all the minutes. CW in particular I thought looked slow tonight. She played to much bb over the summer and didn’t give her body enough rest. Just my opinion. Can someone tell me where Kayla and Molly were rated by ESPN coming out of high school? Were they even in the top 100.
I checked ESPNW’s class of 2016 top 100. The only UConn player in that class was Crystal at number 3.
Yes, Dangerfield was the only player ranked in top 100 by Hoopgurlz (ESPN). Irwin was ranked #44 by Bluestar. Bent wasn't ranked in top 100 by any services that I know of.

That was a bit of a down year. But UCONN had just brought in (at the time) 2 pretty good classes the 2 years prior. Nurse/Williams/Ekmark/Edwards and KLS/Collier/Boykin. However, Dangerfield's class has stayed all 4 years. :D
 
I am not sure if any of the Uconn turnovers were forced turnovers. I think all, or nearly all, TO's were unforced.
I watched the first half again and 10 of the 11 first half turnovers were unforced, IMO. Luckily DePaul did not convert much, maybe one basket.
 
Wait, Christyn really scored? :rolleyes: not what I would have guessed reading this thread.
yea, CW scored but only 13 not the 28 she dumped on ND last year. Failure to execute I would guess.
the right ones
 
The best players initiate or make plays. IMO, when she does that, Williams seems to have her best stretches of play. Too often she’s hesitant and has to react instead of controlling the action like she has the ability to do. She should try watching video of Bueckers, that’s how you attack a game and it can be done within the framework of UConn’s offense as Auriemma encourages Dangerfield to do. But you have to have that drive between the ears to do it and we’ll see if she’s got it.
We shall have the option to see Paige's videos as a College player, then the comparison means something.
 
So does Kyla and so does Molly. Geno isn’t getting to another Final 4 without these players contributing. This team will tire like last year’s team.
It's just that I think Aubrey's the only one that will be able to contribute against teams like Stanford, Oregon, etc. But she isn't ready to do that yet. She needs lots more minutes, and maybe even then she may not be ready. Kyla has been in the system for 3+ years, and if you watched her closely last night, I don't see how anyone can see her really competing against the best teams. Off the bench to spell someone for a couple of minutes,ok. Reduce her minutes, increase Aubrey's, and maybe Crystal has a chance at a championship.
 
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It's just that I think Aubrey's the only one that will be able to contribute against teams like Stanford, Oregon, etc. But she isn't ready to do that yet. She needs lots more minutes, and maybe even then she may not be ready. Kyla has been in the system for 3+ years, and if you watched her closely last night, I don't see how anyone can see her really competing against the best teams. Off the bench to spell someone for a couple of minutes,ok. Reduce her minutes, increase Aubrey's, and maybe Crystal has a chance at a championship.
The problem with that plan is that it reduces Anna’s minutes and she is far, far more valuable. Aubrey should spell CW.
 
The problem with that plan is that it reduces Anna’s minutes and she is far, far more valuable. Aubrey should spell CW.
it doesn't matter who goes in for whom. Anna should be starting, and get Aubrey into the game for anyone, except Dangerfield. the way offenses are run these days , it really doesn't matter. bottom line, I just think Kyla's getting minutes that can be better used somewhere else. jmo
 
It's a little deeper than can Aubrey play well against a helter skelter type teams. It deeper because we are game 9 of the season, Aubrey is a freshmen, there is a bigger picture here, and this is not high school. The bigger picture is March and April. One of the reason Geno plays teams like DePaul is to expose his team to different styles of play so that when tournament time comes around they are better prepared. Let's not forget Aubrey did play yesterday so she got her feet wet. As freshmen KLS, Napheesa Collier and Megan Walker played limited minutes against DePaul.
I think it's fair to say that the team when Collier and Samuelson were frosh is a bit different than this year's team. This team starts 2 upperclassmen that are players, plus 2 sophs and a frosh( I'm referring to Anna, who should be starting),Yes, there is a bigger picture here. Come March, April if Aubrey has only been getting her feet wet, there's not much chance that she will be able to contribute. This team can't win with 4 players. Can Aubrey get to the point where she is contributing? there's only one way to find out, imho.
 
I think it's fair to say that the team when Collier and Samuelson were frosh is a bit different than this year's team. This team starts 2 upperclassmen that are players, plus 2 sophs and a frosh( I'm referring to Anna, who should be starting),Yes, there is a bigger picture here. Come March, April if Aubrey has only been getting her feet wet, there's not much chance that she will be able to contribute. This team can't win with 4 players. Can Aubrey get to the point where she is contributing? there's only one way to find out, imho.
Aubrey is already at the point where she is contributing. She is the team's best perimeter defender and only instinctive rebounder. She will be a better contributor in Mach and April. Trust the process that Geno has perfected.
 
I read all these comments and then re-watched the game. I do not understand the deprecation of Christyn's play. Yes, she committed a few bad turnovers and missed some close-in layups that she almost always makes, but that happens to every player every so often. I did not see any lack of hustle at all on Christyn's part, and she was indispensable on the defensive boards -- I think that is why she played all those minutes. And she certainly hustled on the play near the end when Anna dislodged the ball at midcourt and Christyn ran and got it for a layup.

Can someone point to specific instances where they thought that she wasn't hustling, preferably with a citation to the clock time in the game when it occurred? I was looking for that as I re-watched the game, and I just didn't see it.

I do agree with those who say that Anna should be starting, that Aubrey should get more minutes, and that Kyla should get somewhat fewer minutes. But Kyla did get 5 rebounds in the first half, including several contested ones. I think she can play 10-15 minutes against top teams -- she is at least as athletic as Erin Boley, for example.
 
I read all these comments and then re-watched the game. I do not understand the deprecation of Christyn's play. Yes, she committed a few bad turnovers and missed some close-in layups that she almost always makes, but that happens to every player every so often. I did not see any lack of hustle at all on Christyn's part, and she was indispensable on the defensive boards -- I think that is why she played all those minutes. And she certainly hustled on the play near the end when Anna dislodged the ball at midcourt and Christyn ran and got it for a layup.

Can someone point to specific instances where they thought that she wasn't hustling, preferably with a citation to the clock time in the game when it occurred? I was looking for that as I re-watched the game, and I just didn't see it.

I do agree with those who say that Anna should be starting, that Aubrey should get more minutes, and that Kyla should get somewhat fewer minutes. But Kyla did get 5 rebounds in the first half, including several contested ones. I think she can play 10-15 minutes against top teams -- she is at least as athletic as Erin Boley, for example.
Christyn has already proven to us that she can play at a very high level. Last night was not stellar and her last 5 games have been lethargic. Here is specifically what I saw and I wish I could point out when exactly during the game. In the 2nd quarter there was a lose ball scramble above the DePaul basketball. UCONN basketball demands that you get on the floor and get the ball. Instead of going to the floor Christyn bent over and lost the scramble. A few minutes later she gave up two offensive rebounds when DePaul beat her to the inside along the baseline. Again UCONN basketball demands that you don't give up inside position and if that DePaul player was that determine to get inside you ride her out of bounds. Christyn got beat repeatedly on technique and effort neither of which were acceptable nor were her 6 turnovers.
 
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No, she graduated in May. It’s her BFF. She’s a real sweetheart from Hawaii. Big day tomorrow with an after graduation party for family and friends at Bally’s. :D
Enjoy your day and I'm sorry about the cold weather here in Vegas.:eek:
 
Soooo- I played basketball in high school 1965-1969. We did not wear bloomers- we wore kilts and pinneys with our number- same uniform we wore for field hockey. Of course, we did play with those asinine rules- 6 players- 2 rovers, 2 defenders, 2 forwards. In the fall of 69 as a college freshman at UMASS, they started playing boys rules, but only rec basketball- no girls team. There was a varsity field hockey team.
 
That’s what we live for. That’s why the players wanna play here. If Rueck is such a fan maybe he should follow suit and stop munching on Liberty, Southern Utah, UC Irvine, etc. Then maybe players like Russell, Westbrook, Van Lith, et al, might think about staying home.
Agreed. This would have been the year to do so for Oregon State. The Beavs have done recent home-and-away agreements with Tennessee and Notre Dame, but committing to do the same with UConn has either not been pursued or hasn't worked out for the two parties.

The UC-Irvine game this year was part of the Preseason WNIT tourney and beyond the control of Rueck and his assistant coaches (who typically handle the scheduling). Liberty was also a part of a two-day tournament that the Beavs won in Miami during Thanksgiving. They do plead guilty to scheduling Southern Utah. Guilty as charged.
 
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I think Bruno trains his kids well drawing them. She is normally one of the best scorers under the basket either in transition or just penetrating said:
True. DePaul flops more than most teams. Replays of several of the charging calls showed minimal contact. DePaul's players step in and meekly fall backward frequently.
 
it doesn't matter who goes in for whom. Anna should be starting, and get Aubrey into the game for anyone, except Dangerfield. the way offenses are run these days , it really doesn't matter. bottom line, I just think Kyla's getting minutes that can be better used somewhere else. jmo
That is a plan that would work. It gets Aubrey minutes in which to develop in UConn system while providing needed stability in CD, CW, Liv, MW and AM—those five will drive team, AG will provide spark and relief, the remaining players relief with most minutes going to Kyla.
 
Aubrey is already at the point where she is contributing. She is the team's best perimeter defender and only instinctive rebounder. She will be a better contributor in Mach and April. Trust the process that Geno has perfected.
Geno spent season searching for fifth starter before finally settling on Lou, only to see her injured.
 
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Agreed. This would have been the year to do so for Oregon State. The Beavs have done recent home-and-away agreements with Tennessee and Notre Dame, but committing to do the same with UConn has either not been pursued or hasn't worked out for the two parties.

The UC-Irvine game this year was part of the Preseason WNIT tourney and beyond the control of Rueck and his assistant coaches (who typically handle the scheduling). Liberty was also a part of a two-day tournament that the Beavs won in Miami during Thanksgiving. They do plead guilty to scheduling Southern Utah. Guilty as charged.
Guilty of scheduling Missouri State, DePaul, and Miami, who have been in the AP TOP 25 at one time or another this season. Difficult to predict which teams are going to be tough competition one year (or more) in advance of making your schedule (BYU for example). When you play in the toughest conference in D1 WCBB, there is no issue with Rueck scheduling a few OOC cupcakes to break in his new players to D1 Collegiate basketball. Teams like UConn who play in a weak conference have no choice but to schedule a tougher OOC schedule. And UConn has consistently done so. It's all good!
 
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Guilty of scheduling Missouri State, DePaul, and Miami, who have been in the AP TOP 25 at one time or another this season. Tough to know which teams are going to be tough competition one year (or more) in advance of making your schedule. When you play in the toughest conference in D1 WCBB, there is no issue with Rueck scheduling a few OOC cupcakes to break in his new players to D1 Collegiate basketball. Teams like UConn who play in a weak conference have no choice but to schedule a tougher OOC schedule. And UConn has consistently done so. It's all good!
Uconn had the toughest OOC when they were in the old big east which was the best conference before they broke up.
 
I read all these comments and then re-watched the game. I do not understand the deprecation of Christyn's play. Yes, she committed a few bad turnovers and missed some close-in layups that she almost always makes, but that happens to every player every so often. I did not see any lack of hustle at all on Christyn's part, and she was indispensable on the defensive boards -- I think that is why she played all those minutes. And she certainly hustled on the play near the end when Anna dislodged the ball at midcourt and Christyn ran and got it for a layup.

Can someone point to specific instances where they thought that she wasn't hustling, preferably with a citation to the clock time in the game when it occurred? I was looking for that as I re-watched the game, and I just didn't see it.

I do agree with those who say that Anna should be starting, that Aubrey should get more minutes, and that Kyla should get somewhat fewer minutes. But Kyla did get 5 rebounds in the first half, including several contested ones. I think she can play 10-15 minutes against top teams -- she is at least as athletic as Erin Boley, for example.
No worries. Just the Boneyard showing its appreciation for a sophomore getting a double-double against a ranked opponent... Head bang
 
Geno spent season searching for fifth starter before finally settling on Lou, only to see her injured.
:eek: LOL ....Only to see her injured in the FF, during an undefeated championship season?
BTW KLS became the full time (5th) starter during the Temple game. That was only UCONN's 16th game of the season in which they would eventually play 38 games.
 
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