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So what happened to all the Big XII talk?

RSTuthill said:
SDSU are newbies to this realignment game we play and thus are unfamiliar with Rule 1. I am sure that it is something of a shock as it is slowly sinking in.
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They did join the Big East for a day or two a decade or so ago.
 
UConn Dan said:
I know medic posted it in key tweets already but I think up for discussion here. Is it me or is Dodd making it sound like we’re essentially a lock with whatever PAC 12 schools come along!?! Obviously I don’t think it happens without at least one of them.

www.cbssports.com

San Diego State not part of Big 12 expansion plans as Aztecs face uncertain future with Mountain West, Pac-12

SDSU once believed it had two Power Five conferences knocking down its door
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Though SDSU once believed the Pac-12 and Big 12 were interested in adding it to their respective conferences, the Big 12 has little interest in bringing SDSU aboard, sources indicated to CBS Sports this week. This despite Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark's stated intent to expand his league to the West Coast.

Rather, the Big 12's current expansion focus continues to be on UConn and any Pac-12 schools that may be shaken loose once it has a media rights deal to pitch to its membership.
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RSTuthill said:
SDSU are newbies to this realignment game we play and thus are unfamiliar with Rule 1. I am sure that it is something of a shock as it is slowly sinking in.
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I think you're actually referring to conference realignment rule #2: Do not submit your resignation from a conference until you actually have a place to go.
 
CL82 said:
I think you're actually referring to conference realignment rule #2: Do not submit your resignation from a conference until you actually have a place to go.
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LOL. Would have thought that was rule 1 through 7. Unlike our rule #1, this one should have been obvious to everyone before getting kicked in the nuts.
 
businesslawyer said:
LOL. Would have thought that was rule 1 through 7. Unlike our rule #1, this one should have been obvious to everyone before getting kicked in the nuts.
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You would think so, right? I understand what they were trying to do with that letter, but the way it structured was... unfortunate. The language should have been structured to reconfirm membership, probably at the start and finish of the letter, and then ask for flexibility regarding the exit fee timeline. Hindsight is 20/20, but it definitely could've been more strategically written.
 
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The Yakk said:
We should be ahead of Utah, no matter what incentives they have for themselves.

Great Salt Lake is a few years away from reaching its final state as a bone-dry shallow saucer full of 100 years of previously-dissolved toxic chemicals. When the winds blow those across the region, they are facing a massive ecological and public-health disaster.

Who in their right mind will want them in a conference ahead of us?
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To answer your question, the PAC, obviously, and also the Big 12. UU is AAU and has some football history, particularly when Urban Meyer was coach. UU would be a natural rival for BYU if in the Big 12.

The jury's still out on the future of the Great Salt Lake. As of now, water levels are rising again and sailing activity has resumed there. SLC forms the nucleus of an attractive metro in a beautiful setting, nestled as it is below the Wasatch Front. When in town, one is hardly aware of the lake and its status. If I find any fault with the place, it's that traffic can be heavy and a bit tedious when driving north-south on the I-15 corridor between Ogden and Provo.

Winds have been blowing across the great salt desert of western Utah since forever, and I'm not aware that the folks in SLC are being poisoned by airborne toxins. In fact, Utah ranks at or near the top as a healthy state.
 
huskymedic said:
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And I go back to what Flugaur said (because I believe he's correct in this case): Yormark has political capital with the Presidents because he got them a great media contract because of his media connections. Dennis Dodd came out and said it "... The Big 12 is making more money in the new deal without Oklahoma and Texas, and that's what people in the industry cannot believe. Brett Yormark did that. .."

The Presidents have bought in to his ideas, including playing in Mexico and partnering with Rucker Park. “Rucker Park is one of the great landmarks in basketball and is a cultural icon – we are excited to be able to bring Big 12 Basketball to its court,” said Commissioner Brett Yormark in a statement. “We are committed to growing the Conference’s footprint in a variety of ways, and we want kids across New York City to experience Big 12 Basketball first-hand.”

By the way, here is a good article about the Big12 and Rucker Park and recruiting NYC kids:

firstandpen.com

The Big 12 Partners With Harlem's Legendary Rucker Park

With the success of Markquis Nowell and Kansas St.'s other NYC based talent, the Big 12 makes the right move in partnering with Rucker Park.
firstandpen.com firstandpen.com
 
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RSTuthill said:
No. Check the Michigan, NCST, and Syracuse scores. But things will be different this year.
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Right cuz three games negate all the impressive stuff they accomplished last year, especially while down so many of their starters. Listen, I'm not saying they were a fantastic team last season, but to say they're still terrible is to be detached from reality
 
noeynox said:
Its always been a famine mentality with every former Big East school and UConn. Almost like they are afraid UConn's success in BB could be repeatable in FB.
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And they are right, it could be.
 
greenday61892 said:
Right cuz three games negate all the impressive stuff they accomplished last year, especially while down so many of their starters. Listen, I'm not saying they were a fantastic team last season, but to say they're still terrible is to be detached from reality
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Remember short attention spans. What stood out was the thumpings UConn got. That's what got retained. But not to worry. Gonna be some improvement, either slow and steady or even a bit faster. One of those QB's is gonna catch on fire.
 
greenday61892 said:
Right cuz three games negate all the impressive stuff they accomplished last year, especially while down so many of their starters. Listen, I'm not saying they were a fantastic team last season, but to say they're still terrible is to be detached from reality
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Yes, even UConn BB fans were calling drop football after seeing the Michigan score.
 
CL82 said:
I think you're actually referring to conference realignment rule #2: Do not submit your resignation from a conference until you actually have a place to go.
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That is actually the Rule of Life #2, not a realignment rule. I learned that very early in my career when I wanted to take three months off to ski Tucks, rock climb in the Gunks, and eat lobster in Maine unencumbered by tourists. It took me a bit longer to find a job after that than planned. Lucky I was young. Made a mental note not to make unforced errors in the future.
 
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I hope it was enjoyable and full of good memories. Took me 5 years after college to finally get a career job( 90s poor labor market). Best 5 years plus 4 college. No regrets.
 
greenday61892 said:
Right cuz three games negate all the impressive stuff they accomplished last year, especially while down so many of their starters. Listen, I'm not saying they were a fantastic team last season, but to say they're still terrible is to be detached from reality
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We need to pump the brakes. We squeaked out games against Fresno State and their backup QB, and Liberty. Coming off the absolute trainwreck of consecutive losing seasons, you aren't going to begin turning around the narrative thay school gave up on football.

The good news is that Dave Benedict managed to put together schedules that could turn minds arounds quickly. Beat NC State to start the season and interests are going to start to get piqued.
 
noeynox said:
We need to pump the brakes. We squeaked out games against Fresno State and their backup QB, and Liberty. Coming off the absolute trainwreck of consecutive losing seasons, you aren't going to begin turning around the narrative thay school gave up on football.

The good news is that Dave Benedict managed to put together schedules that could turn minds arounds quickly. Beat NC State to start the season and interests are going to start to get piqued.
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Don't forget, like I said, that we squeaked out those games with plenty of our backups as well.
 
jostar1 said:
I think Cincinnati fans are the worst. They don't want UConn in the Big 12.
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I never understood the mentality of programs fighting their way into a P5 Conference but immediately wanting to close the door behind them. There is far more benefit to teams like UCF and Cincy adding a UConn than actively trying to keep them out.
 
Ldandy said:
I never understood the mentality of programs fighting their way into a P5 Conference but immediately wanting to close the door behind them. There is far more benefit to teams like UCF and Cincy adding a UConn than actively trying to keep them out.
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I think it's driven by a sense of unworthiness. From what I've seen the discounted four that were added to the big 12 view it as some sort of accomplishment, rather than a means to an end.
 
noeynox said:
Takes more than one 6-7, season to wash away the stink of a terrible decade.
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Yeah, but what happened before that decade should carry some sway. Especially that Baylor game. And terrible football to me means terrible facilities. And nothing could be further from the truth there. I'm wary of the experts that use words like terrible. They're the ones with an anti-UConn agenda.
 
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