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mauconnfan said:
If Sid stays and averages 5/3 he will help relative to the minutes he will play. Stanley’s 14.5 and 7.6 his senior year is something Sid couldn’t approach. But again if he can accept being a piece then fine with those numbers above.
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You pretty much said what I was thinking. Don't compare Sticks' 5 and 3 over his career to what Sid's upside is. Sid has already played 2 years. Those are over. Look at what Sticks did his junior and senior year and hope Sid can be that. I'd kill for Sid to be a guy like junior and senior year Sticks (without taking off a semester!) the next 2 years. Sticks was also much bigger than Sid.
 
Kenny11 said:
Ok...I've been sitting on this for a while because I don't want to make a big deal about it, but its kind of funny:

Sid had his pet dog living on campus this year. Everyone knew but Hurley. Hurley found out towards the end of the season and was not happy. The dog had to be removed from campus.
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HuskeyinSC said:
He reminds me of Helicopter Harry (Herman Rowlings). Probably the greatest street ball player in the history of NYC ball. He was called Helicopter because of his ability to hang in the air. Once in a Rucker game he blocked the shots of 3 NBA players in one offensive set. Bernard King said the he once saw 6'5" 'Harry' take a quarter of the top of a backboard. He is still a legendary player. A street ball legend, not a college legend and not a NBA legend.
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The 30 Greatest Basketball Players to Never Play in the NBA

The man is nicknamed "Helicopter" with good reason; Herman Knowings had bounce that could seemingly take him to the stratosphere. Knowings, who was 6'7" with a long wingspan, was a Rucker Park standout in the 1960s and '70s. His career remains New York streetball legend. Knowings was revered by NBA legends such as Hall of Famer Bernard King, who once said, "When I was in ninth grade, I saw the Helicopter, with my own two eyes, pick a quarter off the top of the backboard to win a bet, and I was in complete shock." He also garnered the respect of Wilt Chamberlain, who said Knowings' vertical "was absolutely awesome." Knowings died in a car accident in 1980 at 37 years old.
 
HooperScooper said:
You pretty much said what I was thinking. Don't compare Sticks' 5 and 3 over his career to what Sid's upside is. Sid has already played 2 years. Those are over. Look at what Sticks did his junior and senior year and hope Sid can be that. I'd kill for Sid to be a guy like junior and senior year Sticks (without taking off a semester!) the next 2 years. Sticks was also much bigger than Sid.
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Not happening. Cmon now. I’ll be happy if sid gives us 6 and 3 with 1 block.
 
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People forget Sid can grad transfer after next year, in today's climate he's probably not playing his senior year here.
 
Huskyforlife said:
People forget Sid can grad transfer after next year, in today's climate he's probably not playing his senior year here.
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If you're right. I would suggest that he transfer now. Take a year to work on fundamentals and two years to incorporate it into his game. I don't know that he can with take a year off with his history, but it would probably be worth it if he would work hard.
 
borninansonia said:
Sid can jump out of the gym, but he's not a great athlete. Great athletes can do more than jump quickly, they are well coordinated, have great muscle memory, and many other attributes.

Look at Sabrina Ionescu of Oregon. She is not a great jumper, and not the quickest person on the floor, but she is always the best athlete.
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She is not the best athlete at all. She has the best fundamentals, understanding of the game by far on that team heck maybe all of college. Everything she succeeds with is because of knowledge and outsmarting the opposition as well as her skill set. By no means the best athlete.

Sid is a great athlete but his fundamental skills drive any memory for him and it's short for now. Great athleticism by no means leads to being great or even good at anything in most any sport.
 
In my opinion athletes combine speed, strength, lateral quickness, leaping ability, hand/foot eye coordination as well as energy.

In Sid's case he has excellent leaping ability, very good speed and good to very good lateral quickness. He rates poorly in strength and consistent energy (this is mostly seen on the defensive end) and his hand/foot eye coordination appears average. The package is further diminished because of intangibles like basketball intelligence and hard work which also appear average.

That's not to say the intangibles can't improve. Sometimes the light goes on and that's what we have to hope for Sid in the next couple of years.
 
borninansonia said:
Sid can jump out of the gym, but he's not a great athlete. Great athletes can do more than jump quickly, they are well coordinated, have great muscle memory, and many other attributes.

Look at Sabrina Ionescu of Oregon. She is not a great jumper, and not the quickest person on the floor, but she is always the best athlete.
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Coordination and muscle memory have nothing to do with athleticism, they are almost the opposite of athleticism.

Often great athletes lack both of those, but are still competitive due to their athleticism. Sid is a great example of this.
 
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HuskeyinSC said:
If you're right. I would suggest that he transfer now. Take a year to work on fundamentals and two years to incorporate it into his game. I don't know that he can with take a year off with his history, but it would probably be worth it if he would work hard.
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Sorry but your math doesn't work. He's already used 3 years to play 2. If he transfers now, barring a rule change, he would have to sit one and then only have one left to play.
 
bendm said:
what do you mean he's used 3 years? the redshirt year doesnt count towards his eligibility so he's played 2 years and has 2 years remaining. Even if he transferred this summer and had to sit out again next year, why couldnt he play 2 more seasons at another school? one as a redshirt senior and then as a graduate?
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Players get five years to play four. There are extenuating circumstances where guys have gotten a sixth year due to injury. Can’t see him moving on unless he’s assured of game time right away.
 
bendm said:
what do you mean he's used 3 years? the redshirt year doesnt count towards his eligibility so he's played 2 years and has 2 years remaining, no?
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No.

Of course it counts. He was enrolled and in school. Why wouldn't it count?
 
NJHoops said:
Players get five years to play four. There are extenuating circumstances where guys have gotten a sixth year due to injury. Can’t see him moving on unless he’s assured of game time right away.
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Since he already transferred once he would NOT be eligible for immediate play under the proposed rule change correct?
 
UcannUconn said:
Since he already transferred once he would NOT be eligible for immediate play under the proposed rule change correct?
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I believe that will depend on how it’s written and interpreted. I know once the rule is in effect, players can only utilize it once, but I don’t know if previous transfers will count against a player or not. There’s just so much uncertainty, which I think will tend to lead to less movement in more stable programs for now.
 
bendm said:
i'd expect/hope a previous transfer would not count against a player. otherwise a previous transferee would never benefit from the proposed rule change in any way shape or form. if the rule is meant to apply to everyone equally, then sid should be able to transfer (again) without having to sit out another year. if he desires, of course.
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Sure, but someone would likely argue that those guys who have already transferred could eventually move on once again as a grad transfer, provided they’ve taken care of the school part. I wouldn’t be too invested in that argument, but I imagine someone will make it.
 
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bendm said:
it doesnt count toward his 4 years of actually playing. i didnt know there was a 5 year limit overall since players have used 6. but my question was already answered...
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Okay I understand now. You wrote "eligibility", so that's what I was talking about.
 
businesslawyer said:
Sorry but your math doesn't work. He's already used 3 years to play 2. If he transfers now, barring a rule change, he would have to sit one and then only have one left to play.
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If you read the whole quote I said, "I don't know if it will work based on his history".
 
Kenny11 said:
Ok...I've been sitting on this for a while because I don't want to make a big deal about it, but its kind of funny:

Sid had his pet dog living on campus this year. Everyone knew but Hurley. Hurley found out towards the end of the season and was not happy. The dog had to be removed from campus.
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NJHoops said:
Can’t believe this has to be said, but Sid was not suspended over a dog.

It is a very cute dog, though.
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Is this literally a dog or an allegorical dog?
 
Chin Diesel said:
Bouk's best case is better than Ben.
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Darkhorse for next year is Gaffney. We really saw him in flashes this year. I think Sid if he gets his act together is not even close to where his ceiling can be. The things SW needs to work on are also things that can be taught. He has the god given talent. #jellyfam
 
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Stinger92860 said:
The 30 Greatest Basketball Players to Never Play in the NBA

The man is nicknamed "Helicopter" with good reason; Herman Knowings had bounce that could seemingly take him to the stratosphere. Knowings, who was 6'7" with a long wingspan, was a Rucker Park standout in the 1960s and '70s. His career remains New York streetball legend. Knowings was revered by NBA legends such as Hall of Famer Bernard King, who once said, "When I was in ninth grade, I saw the Helicopter, with my own two eyes, pick a quarter off the top of the backboard to win a bet, and I was in complete shock." He also garnered the respect of Wilt Chamberlain, who said Knowings' vertical "was absolutely awesome." Knowings died in a car accident in 1980 at 37 years old.
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I learned about the helicopter from connie hawkins book. a great read.
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Foul: The Connie Hawkins Story; One Of The Best Sports Autobiography's Ever!

Connie Hawkins was born on July 17, 1942 in Brooklyn, New York. He was raised by his blind mother, with his five brothers. Life was not easy on those streets of the late 1950s and early 1960s...
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Chin Diesel said:
Bouk's best case is better than Ben.
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It's possible, but Bouk would probably have to achieve pretty close to his best case. Yesterday I watched some of the 01-02 play, including the BE tourney game vs Pitt, and Ben was pretty impressive as a Fr playing alongside Caron, Taliek and Robertson. It's going to be fun to watch, that's for sure.
 
NJHoops said:
Players get five years to play four. There are extenuating circumstances where guys have gotten a sixth year due to injury. Can’t see him moving on unless he’s assured of game time right away.
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So... Wichita State?
 
bendm said:
it doesnt count toward his 4 years of actually playing. i didnt know there was a 5 year limit overall since players have used 6. but my question was already answered...
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You get a 6th year only if you've lost two seasons to injuries. Sid sat out his first year due to a transfer. He isn't entitled to a 6th year.
 
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