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Seems like a terrific young man and very skilled... he would do well with us. I hope he comes.
 
nomar said:
I guess I'm spoiled by some awesome mixtapes (especially Jalen's), but I wasn't particularly impressed. He looks like a poor man's DHam. Not much in the way of ball-handling or passing (beyond a couple nice highlights) and a low release point on his shot.
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You're both misunderstanding and underrating the kid's passing. Misunderstanding in the DHam comparison, since DHam is a primary/secondary ball-handler, while Jackson is tertiary at best. He's not a playmaker in the way that DHam is.

The video nonetheless showed some nice moments of court vision. First was when he came off a screen on the wing looking to immediately dump into the post, but when that was overplayed, Jackson immediately found his man flashing to the foul line for an open 14-footer. It was a simple play, but a nice one that not all kids can make (I used to scream at Deandre for repeatedly missing that pass).

Second one was when he was in the post. Double team came and so did the first cut, which was overplayed. He waited a split second longer for the second cutter, took a hard dribble away from the lane to drag the defense toward him and open room, then slipped a bounce pass into the pocket for a lay-up.

Third was a rebound and Doron-esque full-court outlet.

With all three passes, it's important to remember that it's a highlight tape. We don't know if these are regular features of the kid's game.

But at the same time, all three are real basketball plays, the type that show a feel for the game and how all the parts work together (or don't). Add in that money jumpshot - which I agree, has a low release - and it's clear why he's a bigtime prospect.

I hope we get this kid. He won't do much as a freshman, but sophomore year and beyond he'll be a really, really good college player. Potentially a better version of Niels.
 
Matrim55 said:
But at the same time, all three are real basketball plays, the type that show a feel for the game and how all the parts work together (or don't). Add in that money jumpshot - which I agree, has a low release - and it's clear why he's a bigtime prospect.

I hope we get this kid. He won't do much as a freshman, but sophomore year and beyond he'll be a really, really good college player. Potentially a better version of Niels.
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I'd take him in a heart beat.

I think he'd benefit in a big way from a strength and conditioning program in college - he reminds me of Preston Shumpert or Michael Redd who were very good in high school, but became something entirely different in college when their conditioning and strength improved markedly.

This is a top-50 kid with upside - we'd be crazy not to want him.
 
Fishy said:
I'd take him in a heart beat.

I think he'd benefit in a big way from a strength and conditioning program in college - he reminds me of Preston Shumpert or Michael Redd who were very good in high school, but became something entirely different in college when their conditioning and strength improved markedly.

This is a top-50 kid with upside - we'd be crazy not to want him.
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Agreed. And I suspect the staff feels the same way.
 
Fishy said:
I'd take him in a heart beat.

I think he'd benefit in a big way from a strength and conditioning program in college - he reminds me of Preston Shumpert or Michael Redd who were very good in high school, but became something entirely different in college when their conditioning and strength improved markedly.

This is a top-50 kid with upside - we'd be crazy not to want him.
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Post 131 on this thread I mentioned Shumpert, totally agree. Lord knows if he plays for UConn they way PS played for the fruits against us he'd be an AA.
 
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Cal is in a great spot here. Let's hope he's committed to taking all three visits...
 
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RipCity said:
Give us the last visit and it's a wrap. Both Cuonzo and Pastner can recruit, but I think he takes all three visits, so whoever goes last is in the best spot.
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This is more of a Damon Stoudimire connection than a Pastner. I can't wait till they name Damon our new coach. Pastner is leaving good or bad season anyway.
 
I like his outside shot - and that's enough - otherwise don't get me started on other fundamentals. Those can be taugh - bad shooting habits though are very difficult to unlearn, so over - all I like him.
 
Is Gabriel really better than him?
I liked this a lot.
Noticed the ball left the camera angle on every jump shot. Sometimes the ball was off the screen for what felt like forever. Does his shot have that high of an arc? Or is his cameraman limited? Not that I care, just curious.
 
David 76 said:
Is Gabriel really better than him?
I liked this a lot.
Noticed the ball left the camera angle on every jump shot. Sometimes the ball was off the screen for what felt like forever. Does his shot have that high of an arc? Or is his cameraman limited? Not that I care, just curious.
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Different skill sets. Gabriel would be the better rebounder and shot blocker. And he might be a better overall defender. But Jackson might be the better passer and most likely the better perimeter shooter.

The real question to be asking is which player would compliment the existing players better. That's difficult because we don't know who is staying and who is going. Personally I like the idea of having Jackson to go along with Diarra/Enoch/AB/ Kelis Fisher, Gilbert, Adams and Durham more than Gabriel because I would love to have a perimeter shooter to spread the floor for that line up.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
Different skill sets. Gabriel would be the better rebounder and shot blocker. And he might be a better overall defender. But Jackson might be the better passer and most likely the better perimeter shooter.

The real question to be asking is which player would compliment the existing players better. That's difficult because we don't know who is staying and who is going. Personally I like the idea of having Jackson to go along with Diarra/Enoch/AB/ Kelis Fisher, Gilbert, Adams and Durham more than Gabriel because I would love to have a perimeter shooter to spread the floor for that line up.
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Bingo fleud - we have Durham/Larrier/Enoch/Diarra (maybe DHam, Brimah still?) so we could use someone who could flip it in from the perimeter for sure. Not saying I wouldn't be really happy if the unexpected occurred but the fit is there for Jackson - different players.

But that's just one aliens opinion.
 
I don't think Memphis is a realistic threat here, but they just got one of their other wing targets - Ar'mond Davis.

He's a top 10-ish JUCO player - 6'6", 190 from College of Southern Idaho.
 
I live in Berkeley and have some contacts in the athletic department. They're very confident about this one.
 
Matrim55 said:
I live in Berkeley and have some contacts in the athletic department. They're very confident about this one.
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They should be.
 
Fishy said:
They should be.
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Kind of surprised with so many people having contacts no one knows the date of his OV to UConn. Do you think the tweet is accurate?
 
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RipCity said:
That he'll commit to Cal?
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Yes. "The guys think they're in a good spot" is the phrase that was used, with "the guys" being the Cal coaching staff.

For those that don't know: Cal is about 45 minutes from Napa, where the kid will be playing his high school games this year, and Cal head coach Cuonzo Martin & top recruiter Yann Hufnagel pulled in a top 3 class last year.

Berkeley is also the Garden of Eden, so I'd expect good recruiting results to continue, whether or not they land Jackson.
 
Matrim55 said:
Yes. "The guys think they're in a good spot" is the phrase that was used, with "the guys" being the Cal coaching staff.

For those that don't know: Cal is about 45 minutes from Napa, where the kid will be playing his high school games this year, and Cal head coach Cuonzo Martin & top recruiter Yann Hufnagel pulled in a top 3 class last year.

Berkeley is also the Garden of Eden, so I'd expect good recruiting results to continue, whether or not they land Jackson.
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Recruiting and then producing is a who different game
Martin has recruited well in the past but where are the results?
If the kid wants to win National Championships he has 2 choices - UConn or Duke
Seeing Puke is not in this the kid's 3 choices - go to nowhere land and program in Memphis, go to "the garden of Eden" in the crazy land of CA or come to Storrs and have the BEST chance to win
 
gtcam said:
Recruiting and then producing is a who different game
Martin has recruited well in the past but where are the results?
If the kid wants to win National Championships he has 2 choices - UConn or Duke
Seeing Puke is not in this the kid's 3 choices - go to nowhere land and program in Memphis, go to "the garden of Eden" in the crazy land of CA or come to Storrs and have the BEST chance to win
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Winning isn't everything to these kids. Relationships matter more than you give them credit for. We are lucky because with KO, we get the best of both worlds.
 
gtcam said:
If the kid wants to win National Championships he has 2 choices - UConn or Duke
Seeing Puke is not in this the kid's 3 choices - go to nowhere land and program in Memphis, go to "the garden of Eden" in the crazy land of CA or come to Storrs and have the BEST chance to win
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I'm glad Donnyell Marshall, Ray Allen, Richard Hamilton and Khalid El-Amin didn't think like that when they were choosing where to go to college.

There's no rule that says only teams that have won will win. Some kids like the challenge of plowing new ground.
 
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