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Orangutan said:
I would love to hear Kelly Graves' salespitch. It must really be something.

Kind of wild that a program that has yet to make the NC game is crushing everyone in recruiting.
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To me, he comes across a big cuddly new age west coast Zen dude. For god's sake, they are "DUCKS" :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
eebmg said:
To me, he comes across a big cuddly new age west coast Zen dude. For god's sake, they are "DUCKS" :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
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Well those Oregon and Oregon State interior matchups should be interesting in the next few years.


MDoggie said:
Let's see if we can set a record for the quickest closed thread!! How bout it team?
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I dont wanna see triaddukefan so I'll pass. :oops:
 
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willtalk said:
I suspect this was a bigger loss for Uconn that it will be a gain for Oregon. Uconn needed the post depth.
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Prince would have been ineligible until next season and would still be just a freshmen. Now, I would've loved to have her if healthy, but UConn has grad transfer options and is still recruiting players like Cardoso. Not the outcome I wanted, but not the end of the world. And frankly, I think Oregon over Notre Dame is a bit of a relief if it wasn't going to be Connecticut.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Prince would have been ineligible until next season and would still be just a freshmen. Now, I would've loved to have her if healthy, but UConn has grad transfer options and is still recruiting players like Cardoso. Not the outcome I wanted, but not the end of the world. And frankly, I think Oregon over Notre Dame is a bit of a relief if it wasn't going to be Connecticut.
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Agreed.
She may well completely recover from a very serious injury, but that is still an unkown. Having her on the roster would probably have reduced our chances for signing other bigs.
There's nothing we can do about it now in any case.
 
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Congrat to Prince and Oregon. Any team that got her now can see the end of the Rainbow. I wish I was saying Congrats to Uconn.. Geno has supplied wonders so far this post season, thanks Geno.

NO NASTY TASTING GRAPES HERE---LEAVE THE THREAD RUN IT'S COURSE. Someone other than Uconn must have a shot now an then. Congrats Ducks.
 
Bellemare said:
NO NASTY TASTING GRAPES HERE---LEAVE THE THREAD RUN IT'S COURSE. Someone other than Uconn must have a shot now an then. Congrats Ducks.
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While it seems to make Oregon, formidable, I would not necessarily count UConn out at this point in time. I was surprised at how well UConn did last year with only 3 losses.
 
Orangutan said:
I would love to hear Kelly Graves' salespitch. It must really be something.

Kind of wild that a program that has yet to make the NC game is crushing everyone in recruiting.
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Just guessing, but if I was Graves, Oregon is a pretty easy sell. The Ducks have steadily progressed in WBB each and every year since he took over as HC to the point where they should be rated #1 in all the preseason polls.

Graves, along with his assistant HC are both enthusiastic pitchmen who can sell “being a part of the first WBB championship at Oregon.” To someone like Prince, who obviously is thinking about a pro career, he can also sell playing in the Pac-12, arguably the best conference in the nation, where Prince will be battling with other talented Bigs in just about every conference game.

There is all that “Nike money” that has given Oregon some of the best facilities in D1 sports. Finally, on the occasions when it’s not pouring rain in the PNW, Eugene, OR is a beautiful place.
 
oldude said:
Just guessing, but if I was Graves, Oregon is a pretty easy sell. The Ducks have steadily progressed in WBB each and every year since he took over as HC to the point where they should be rated #1 in all the preseason polls.
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Totally agree. Graves kind of feels like a more hands-off, West Coast hippie version of Walz - funny and charismatic guy who's a strong tactician but not the world's most determined player development coach, but he attracts enough to talent that that alone is a reason to come, and the talent pushes each other to be better. I suspect that formula works in a world where a lot of recruits come with considerable AAU & Team USA experience and feel they are more fully formed (rightly or wrongly). I guess I kind of feel like if you like the Oregon vibe then Geno is not going to be for you, and vice versa. (You know which style I prefer. ;))

And man, somehow even with Stanford landing 3 top 5 recruits for 2019-2021 (2019-#1 Jones, 2020-#3 Brink, and 2021-#4 Demetre) plus another couple top 20 forwards (Belibi and Prechtel) and a few top 30-40 guards (Jump and Van Gytenbeek), I still feel like we're barely holding on in the recruiting war against Oregon -- which is insane, because if you took all transfers out of the equation, Stanford has indisputably recruited as strong as any school in the country, and easily the strongest since the Wiggins/Appel/Pedersen/Pohlen/Ogwumike x2 streak.

Those road trips up north are going to be brutal for the foreseeable future...
 
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TheFarmFan said:
Totally agree. Graves kind of feels like a more hands-off, West Coast hippie version of Walz - funny and charismatic guy who's a strong tactician but not the world's most determined player development coach, but he attracts enough to talent that that alone is a reason to come, and the talent pushes each other to be better. I suspect that formula works in a world where a lot of recruits come with considerable AAU & Team USA experience and feel they are more fully formed (rightly or wrongly). I guess I kind of feel like if you like the Oregon vibe then Geno is not going to be for you, and vice versa. (You know which style I prefer. ;))

And man, somehow even with Stanford landing 3 top 5 recruits for 2019-2021 (2019-#1 Jones, 2020-#3 Brink, and 2021-#4 Demetre) plus another couple top 20 forwards (Belibi and Prechtel) and a few top 30-40 guards (Jump and Van Gytenbeek), I still feel like we're barely holding on in the recruiting war against Oregon -- which is insane, because if you took all transfers out of the equation, Stanford has indisputably recruited as strong as any school in the country, and easily the strongest since the Wiggins/Appel/Pedersen/Pohlen/Ogwumike x2 streak.

Those road trips up north are going to be brutal for the foreseeable future...
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Will not be good for any Pac-12 school who has to get the Oregon schools twice. At this point, Oregon State's recruiting is a few beats behind Stanford and Oregon's, but Rueck has a great eye for talent and does well in the player development area of things. If he can land Clark or Hailey Van Lith (and he appears to be on the outside looking in for those two), he will definitely lessen the gap.
 
another quality big passes on UConn..............really frustrating......................I guess Cardoso is the last post standing for 2020...................I hear she's interested in either Oregon or Oregon State because she likes to look people straight in the eye when speaking without having to look down................... :rolleyes:
 
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TheFarmFan said:
Totally agree. Graves kind of feels like a more hands-off, West Coast hippie version of Walz - funny and charismatic guy who's a strong tactician but not the world's most determined player development coach, but he attracts enough to talent that that alone is a reason to come, and the talent pushes each other to be better. I suspect that formula works in a world where a lot of recruits come with considerable AAU & Team USA experience and feel they are more fully formed (rightly or wrongly). I guess I kind of feel like if you like the Oregon vibe then Geno is not going to be for you, and vice versa. (You know which style I prefer. ;))

And man, somehow even with Stanford landing 3 top 5 recruits for 2019-2021 (2019-#1 Jones, 2020-#3 Brink, and 2021-#4 Demetre) plus another couple top 20 forwards (Belibi and Prechtel) and a few top 30-40 guards (Jump and Van Gytenbeek), I still feel like we're barely holding on in the recruiting war against Oregon -- which is insane, because if you took all transfers out of the equation, Stanford has indisputably recruited as strong as any school in the country, and easily the strongest since the Wiggins/Appel/Pedersen/Pohlen/Ogwumike x2 streak.

Those road trips up north are going to be brutal for the foreseeable future...
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Although I usually agree with your posts, the "hands-off, West Coast hippie" comment seems to me condescending, as has been the case with a fair number of posts about Graves on this board. Yes, he likes to leave his players alone as much as possible during games, and, yes, he can be a funny guy, but his practices are, by all accounts, not easy, and Oregon didn't lead the nation in assist to turnover ratio with a coach who wasn't demanding or didn't pay attention to detail. (We had one of those right before Graves arrived.) It also seems all too easy to forget his success at Gonzaga, along with (for example) the fact that one of the premier point guards in the WBA played for him (Vandersloot), with another sure to follow. It's also worth noting Maite Cazorla's quiet (as always, in her case) success as an NBA rookie this year (she was ranked 100 on Hoopgurlz and spoke very little English when she arrived in Eugene) or the transformation of a very raw Ruthy Hebard into (according to ESPN) one of the coming season's top seniors. Of course he's not Geno--who is?--but there are good reasons why Geno predicted that Graves would make a final four immediately after he was hired some 5 years ago now.
 
TheFarmFan said:
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And man, somehow even with Stanford landing 3 top 5 recruits for 2019-2021 (2019-#1 Jones, 2020-#3 Brink, and 2021-#4 Demetre) plus another couple top 20 forwards (Belibi and Prechtel) and a few top 30-40 guards (Jump and Van Gytenbeek), I still feel like we're barely holding on in the recruiting war against Oregon -- which is insane, because if you took all transfers out of the equation, Stanford has indisputably recruited as strong as any school in the country, and easily the strongest since the Wiggins/Appel/Pedersen/Pohlen/Ogwumike x2 streak.

Those road trips up north are going to be brutal for the foreseeable future...
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Huh?

Most of you are way too infatuated with height. Meg Walker was number 1. CWIll was 1/2 and ONO was 5. In 2020 we have the number 1 player in Paige.
 
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jonson said:
Although I usually agree with your posts, the "hands-off, West Coast hippie" comment seems to me condescending, as has been the case with a fair number of posts about Graves on this board. Yes, he likes to leave his players alone as much as possible during games, and, yes, he can be a funny guy, but his practices are, by all accounts, not easy, and Oregon didn't lead the nation in assist to turnover ratio with a coach who wasn't demanding or didn't pay attention to detail. (We had one of those right before Graves arrived.) It also seems all too easy to forget his success at Gonzaga, along with (for example) the fact that one of the premier point guards in the WBA played for him (Vandersloot), with another sure to follow. It's also worth noting Maite Cazorla's quiet (as always, in her case) success as an NBA rookie this year (she was ranked 100 on Hoopgurlz and spoke very little English when she arrived in Eugene) or the transformation of a very raw Ruthy Hebard into (according to ESPN) one of the coming season's top seniors. Of course he's not Geno--who is?--but there are good reasons why Geno predicted that Graves would make a final four immediately after he was hired some 5 years ago now.
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Oregon's task will be to continue playing the same kind of quality winning basketball without their All American point guard after next season..............recruiting highly ranked players and getting them to play well as a team are two different things...............time will tell..................
 
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hoophuskee said:
Huh?

Most of you are way too infatuated with height. Meg Walker was number 1. CWIll was 1/2 and ONO was 5. In 2020 we have the number 1 player in Paige.
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some are too infatuated with height others are too fatuated with rankings...............they both count to some degree so give me a highly ranked tall player who can really ball and I'll be happy..............
 
Charliebball said:
some are too infatuated with height others are too fatuated with rankings.....they both count to some degree so give me a highly ranked tall player who can really ball and I'll be happy....
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so going to final fours EVERY YEAR and losing in the last seconds for 2 straight years and last year the weakest team they've had in years getting to the final four is something to bemoan at such a point to say UCONN "is barely keeping up?" I just want everyone to realize UCONN has gotten to final fours in case anyone has forgotten. People speaking Stanford and Oregon-- what have they done better than UCONN over the past few years?

Give me a healthy Fudd over any big player you want.
 
hoophuskee said:
so going to final fours EVERY YEAR and losing in the last seconds for 2 straight years and last year the weakest team they've had in years getting to the final four is something to bemoan at such a point to say UCONN "is barely keeping up?" I just want everyone to realize UCONN has gotten to final fours in case anyone has forgotten. People speaking Stanford and Oregon-- what have they done better than UCONN over the past few years?

Give me a healthy Fudd over any big player you want.
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UConn picked up PB who most likely will become one of the most significant players in WBB but that doesn't negate the fact that recruiting a power forward and or a second post player has recently been problematic......................it's quite a strange phenomenon.......
 
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